Am I the only one who has put months into LG and is just not seeing a return on investment? I am consistently between -3 and 5 on LR, and -4 and 6 on RC, but my BEST on LG has been -6 and it's usually more like -9. LG is killing my score, and everyone said it was the easiest section to improve upon. I'm feeling very defeated at this point. Anyone been through this?

Hi,

I know "These secondary substances give plants their distinctive tastes and smells." contains a causality.

But, what about this twist:

"It is these secondary substances that give plants their distinctive tastes and smells.

Does the twist means a mutual causation? meaning:

These secondary substances (--) what gives plants their distinctive tastes and smells.

Any thoughts or comments will be really appreciated!

I'm sure i'm not the only one who has watched JY copy and paste master game boards and wished there was a quicker way to test rules in Logic Games on pen and paper.

My question is: does anyone know if tablets that allow you to draw on them and use copy and paste functions are allowed on test day?

I would love to find a better way to notate logic games but i don't want to purchase some kind of tablet if we are only allowed to use pen and paper for Logic games. If not, then does anyone have any advice/tips on how to organize their logic games scratch paper? Mine always end up messy and hard to follow. I often run out of room and can't keep track of what is going on. Any tips would be apreciated!

I just did a prep test that had a lot of spacial games, like one of the earlier ones. Is this something that gets less common or more common for more recent ones? I find them kind of annoying because of how weird they are. Thanks!

Hey y’all! I just took the LSAT Flex and wanted some input on whether I should cancel my LSAT or not.

To preface it, I’m an international student (so LSAT score matters a lot) and I have a 167 on record (in my fourth attempt) which I took in-person in Feb, 2020 in USA.

I took the LSAT Flex today in my home country and had connectivity issues which resulted in my internet connection disconnecting midway through the second section (RC). I had to end up guessing on the last few questions eventually since I ran out of time (my RCs are usually very tight time wise and the connection / disconnection thing really messed it up for me and my overall momentum for the exam).

LG went well except for again I guessed on the last 3 questions due to time constraints. My LR was good but again I messed up on time constraints on the last question.

But summing it up, since it was a sub-optimal performance on account of me blindly guessing on 8 questions at least in total which was further compounded by connectivity issues & the induced stress and considering this is my last allowed attempt so should I just cancel it? I don’t see myself improving my 167 but how bad can the consequences of canceling be (keeping the fact in mind that I’m an international student so how will a drop in score look, provided I can say that I had legit connectivity issues).

My practice score was 168 or above and blind score was 170+ in recent practice attempts.

Thank you so much! Really grateful for your input.

So We can Deny ONLY “some” and “all” relationship??

Can’t we also deny Most, None relationship????? Thank you!!! #help#help#help#help#help#help#help

I am looking for someone who is demonstrably good at the RC section of the test. While I have been able to get down to (-1) on the section, I -- more often than not -- get closer to a range of (-6) to (-8). I have a tendency to run out of time by the last passage, which often tends to be the hardest passage. I have better LG and LR scores on average, probably averaging closer to (-3) for LG and (-3) for LR. That being said, I would be able to trade-off my techniques in those sections with someone that already performs well in RC. Anytime during the weekend would be good for me to meet over Zoom. Obviously, if there are multiple interested people, we could start an RC review group. Although I would like to keep that group relatively small to avoid mayhem.

Looking at the syllabus, it looks like the logical reasoning section goes on for a very long time before introducing logic games. So, can you possibly interject some logic game lessons while still in the logical reasoning section of the course? Or is it recommended to just follow the syllabus strictly as it stands?

I had ProctorU connection issues during my June FLEX.

LR was totally normal.

RC I was interrupted 3-4 times starting halfway through reading passage 2. After about 1 minute of stop and go reading, my proctor paused the test, closed everything, and started me off again from where we were. I got through the section, but felt I never got to the level of understanding for that passage that I am used to.

LG was normal through two games, but I was interrupted by connection issues again during the last two games. I was able to answer all questions, but I probably lost 60 seconds of work time, had to guess on two questions, and didn't check my work at the end.

LSAC is offering me a retest 8 days from now. Here's why I'm so unsure of what to do:

-I've already taken the most recent 25 PTs, and I'm worried about reusing PTs or relying on older ones.

-I don't trust the FLEX setup anymore. I could encounter the same or worse connection issues again. The issues stemmed from the server side, not from my local setup.

-I am not applying this cycle, so I can retest next year if I keep this score and I am not thrilled.

This was my second sitting. I think the odds I did worse than my first sitting are low, the odds I did 1-2 points better are high, and the odds I did 3+ point better are medium. But that's just my estimate. I was shooting for a -10 on the exam.

Thanks for the insight and support. I am just a wreck over this whole thing.

Hello, I was wondering if anyone had advice as to how to improve on the harder LR questions. Currently, for every questions I get wrong I write it in a notebook and analyze each answer choice. I continue to think it through and even play around a little and try to figure out what would have to change in order for the answer to be right. I have seen SIGNIFICANT improvements doing this and have noticed I have began to mimic this exact thinking process while i am taking times sections. However, I find it quite difficult to understand some of the harder LR questions. Does anyone have any advice on how to reason through them. Do you believe as I go through more questions I will begin to see general trends?

In the question, the advertisement claims no headache pill stops pain more quickly. Then, to my undestanding, their claim is that their pill, compared to their competitors, stops pain the quickest. Why is the answer C as opposed to D?

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I was taking my exam and during my 1 minute break in between my RC and LR section I told my mom to put the tv lower. 5 minutes or so later the proctor calls me (once I’ve begun my LR section) and goes “I heard you talking, you’re not allowed to talk. What did you say?” I said “I just told my mom to be quiet.” she said “You’re not allowed to speak. This is your first warning.” I thought she was done but she kept going saying something like “do you understand? No more talking.” I already have accommodations because I have to reread multiple times or else I don’t process. When she interrupted me it really threw me off as I was in the middle of a question and it made me anxious. Was I allowed to say that during my break? And why didn’t she just tell me this while I was still in my break? She for some reason waited until I began the section to say something. If I am allowed to speak during breaks can should I complain?

Is anyone and everyone considered the same thing in the LSAT?

For example, if I say anyone who has X should do Y. Is that the same as saying everyone who has X should do Y? I feel like we treat them very similar despite the fact that they feel quite different.

#Help

How does one translate this in conditional logic:

"If one has X, everyone must do Y, if they are to achieve X"

Example: "If one has defined a goal, everyone must work together, if they are to achieve that goal"

Is it two seperate conditionals: defined goal > work together & achieve goal > work together

Or is it: achieve goal > (defined goal > work together)

I was wondering if anyone had any other techniques to improve their weakening section. I seem to struggle on this section even with the methods and practicing. Anything would help! Thanks :)

(If this post violates rules on test disclosure, sorry and delete it!)

So - took the LSAT in April, and one of my games was grouping with binary sub groups - U or V. Now, my handwriting is atrocious, and I took like an extra minute just to make sure my Us didn’t looks like my Vs. I more or less had to re-do like 1/2 of the questions because I couldn’t tell if my mostly-angled curves were a U or a V.

From my recollection, earlier PTs did this fairly regularly, but more recent ones have generally gone for more visually distinct variables. Anyway, I wasn’t really prepared for it, and I should have been. (Assuming my LSAT used older LGs, but I could be totally wrong on that one). Does anyone else have this problem??

I’m also curious about everyone else’s thoughts … the argument could be made that being able to write clearly is important enough that it’s a legit part of the test, or we could argue that they could have tested logic without testing penmanship by going with U and P, for instance.

… okay I’ll be honest, I’m mostly just annoyed and slightly bored, so I figured I’d complain, hahah. Good luck to everyone taking the June test!

Hey everyone,

So I just wrote my writing sample (my test is tomorrow) and everything went really well, I had strong arguments etc. But with 5 seconds left, I notice a rather important typo (just the misspelling of a word) in the FIRST SENTENCE. I tried to fix it, but had no time. It is definitely clear what I meant, but I kind of feel like my world is ending right now. Anyone have any words of advice/ reassurance?

I don't get the explanation for why A is right. All we know is that do produce a good meal you can't have bad food. That would seem to imply that you could have a good meal with mediocre food. So how can you then take the the next conditional relationship between bad soil and good food to prove anything about good meals. All you can prove is that you can't have good food with bad soil. But maybe you can have mediocre food with bad soil. And if so, you can possibly produce a good meal with bad soil, since mediocre food can possibly produce a good meal.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-37-section-2-question-12/

Really struggling on the LR sections -- I am doing the blind reviews but my LR results are so inconsistent. I do not know what else to do to improve on LR. If anyone has some advice, please share!!

I am reading a lot of people are having their time wasted because of proctor issues. Any specific advises? I saw several good one - tell proctor to mute themselves and stop timer when they want to talk. Is proctor experience is that bad?

Hi all,

Back for the April 2021 flex thread there was a really helpful comment a user wrote about which LG's he did prior to the test that made him feel really prepared. If you're one of those that feels LG is your greatest strength, I think this may be one last beneficial step just to lock it in. I plan to do it at least and hope it helps. I wanted to list the user's name for reference but it got cut out of the picture I took so feel free to look back through the thread and you should find it easily. A lot of people were saying how some of the April games threw them off but this person said he felt extremely prepared doing these hard/unusual games prior to testing.

Here's the list:

PT2 games 3 and 4

PT7 game 3

PT15 game 2

PT21 game 4

PTF97 game 4

PT25 games 2 and 3

PT 79 game 4

PT 88 games 3 and 4

All credit to him!! Just wanted to re-share for the upcoming test in case it could help. Happy studying everyone!

Hi all,

I know many of us are in the same boat in that we may not be writing until Tuesday (and in some cases Thursday I think?). Anyways, I just wanted to come on here and give a word of encouragement. As the comments are flooding in on the official June thread, I find it hard not to get more anxious for the upcoming test. As expected, some sections seem pretty tough for people and reading this kind of throws me off (but I need to remember how subjective the test is too)! Of course, I expect the test to be challenging and expected to see comments like these. But in the midst of it all, those of us who haven't written yet should try to maintain a calm demeanor and crush the test that ends up being ours! It's easy to see what others are saying and speculate how yours may turn out, but I think the mentality of this test is so invaluable that we should all just stay strong and know how much we have prepared. Then, after the test the outcome will be whatever it may be! All in all, I just know how nerve wracking it is seeing all the comments, whether it be about proctors or the actual test, and how much it really gets in your head. Those of us who haven't tested yet, we seriously have got this. Remain calm and do it how we know! And to those of us who have completed... congrats!!! What an exciting time with hopefully great news for all come July 1! Stay positive y'all :)

Hi yall!

So I am taking the test in a few days and I just totally forgot how to I solved NA questions. (I know this sound so dumb and ridiculous) I can solve all other questions fine but I literally just freeze and can’t do anything whenever I see any NA type. I’m freaking out big time here.

If you have any way of solving/approaching NA, I’d really love to hear it. This literally feels like I have a short term memory loss. Please send help.

Are there 2 June Lsat flext test versions?

I just the LSAT Flex for the first time, and I was really hoping my first write would go so well... it did not. There were several questions I did not have time to reach (which never happens) and now I have no clue what to expect as a score. Does anyone have any words or wisdom or comforting advice? I do not want to think about how I may have scored WAY below my average for the next three weeks.