I have taken 3 PT's so far and I have been scoring around -14/-13 on LR. Do you guys think that it is just a matter or going back to the fundamentals of how to tackle question types and drill those questions? Or should I just keep taking separate timed sections on LR?

Sharing this for my personal growth and in case it benefits a single person. I went -5 on RC for the first time (usually -9 to -11) and immediately took note of what I did differently. Looking at it on paper, it's all so obvious, but it's stuff that apparently I had to learn the hard way.

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I must be losing 1-3 questions' worth of time switching between colors, highlighting, and sometimes even erasing. Stahhhp!

Worry less

Don't freak out and reread anything for the sake of committing it to memory or catching every little detail. The test writers have word minimums. Like someone said in one of the 7Sage podcasts, lots of RC passage material will go over your head, that's what it's supposed to do - the game, then, is fighting the instinct to fully understand every single thing that's handed to you. Every sentence cannot be the most important sentence. Unhighlighted space or unremarkable information should be expected and embraced, not fretted over. Read actively and move tf on.

Concentrate... but really

Nothing in the world exists except this sentence.

Rush rush rush

Shed the mindset that the first passage will get you into the groove.

Anyone wants to do a zoom session where we discuss a reading comp. section? 80+ reading comp answer wordings are something else. We'll decide what test to take, we don't score or BR yet, get on zoom, compare answers and discuss our understanding of each passage and how we arrived at our respective answers.

Hi, just wondering if anyone could explain this to me. I'm not really seeing what the flaw is. (Flordyce University archaeology question)

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Help, what is a conditional indicator and can you give me an example? Thank you!

I keep seeing people referring to the Oct. 8th administration date in a way suggesting that it's only for international students. I'm in the United States and signed up for the Thursday date without any issue. However, now I'm getting paranoid that I'm not going to be able to take the test tomorrow or something! Any other Americans taking the test tomorrow (Oct. 8th)?

I got -9 on my diagnostic, -2 BR. Today's -1 was from PT1. I'm wondering if it's just because of the passages that I was able to pull this off? Did anyone else find the passages from PT1 to just be easier...?

Hi, I completed my LSAT writing a couple of days ago and while I was trying to take a pic of my ID I was talking to my mom to press the capture button so I could stabilize it since it was coming out blurry (but this was before I started the test). And I also forgot to show under my desk. Does anyone think this is grounds for disqualifying my submission/flagging it? I’m kinda worried and don’t know what if I should call LSAC or not.

So I started my test, was having tons on problems got tossed around to different proctors/technicians. Eventually was able to start the test, got through the first section and then the connection went out with 2 minutes left. At that point the proctor/technicians told me to just reschedule. When I called LSAC they told me I had to take it this Friday even though there were empty slots to reschedule this week. Just wondering if anyone else had similar experience/was told to retake on Friday.

Do LSAT writers not realize that there are non native speakers taking the test as well? I was on track for a 170+ for November until I started PT80+. I'm all over the place. Half the time I don't even know what the questions are saying.

Are the wordings on PT80+ more difficult to digest or I'm just tired?

My exam was set to start at 9:10 and I am still on the waiting screen at 9:28 without any proctor. Anyone else experiencing this right now?

Good Evening,

As I am starting the logic games section, I am noticing that setting up the board games is the most difficult part for me, I am able to make the inferences necessary on my own and figure out the questions in a timely manner but the hardest part is to not only set up the boards efficiently but correctly, what do you think is the best method to master the set up in order to develop proficiency in logic games? #help

Does anyone have any hints or tips on how to get RRE questions correct? #help

Hi! I am confused when I should chain the conditional statements to make inferences and when I shouldn't in the In/Out games. I noticed that when JY explains the games where each of them connects in some way, sometimes he chains them and then makes inferences, and sometimes he doesn't. So I am not sure when I SHOULD NOT chain? If the conditions connect to each other in a chain then why is he not doing it in some while doing it in others? Also, I have been chaining the games whenever I can because that helps me make inferences, sometimes that helps me get the answers right, sometimes it doesnt. So I am not sure what I should do.

Sorry this is long and I haven't proof it yet for errors, but if you would like to read my email to LSAC regarding my terrible experience today with the October Flex, here it is. As prospective law students, we deserve SO much better than this.

To whom it may concern,

I took the October LSAT flex today. After months of studying and putting in my best effort, I was positive coming into it. I got set up my dad’s office since it has the fastest internet in my house, I checked that my connection was good (about 300 megabits per second) and logged into ProctorU. Come 9:10, when my exam was set to start, I clicked ‘begin’ and the process of checking my video and microphone connection happened almost immediately, but I was told my lighting did not pass the test. I turned my light on brighter in the room and pressed ‘retry’ to recheck the lighting. This time, it wouldn’t seem to load. I waited 20 minutes, attempted to speak to multiple technicians, but nobody was responding or could help me. I was afraid of exiting out of the window in case I wouldn’t be let back in. After 30 minutes, I took the risk of closing the window and reopened, logged back into ProctorU and after only a minute, I was set up and ready to receive my proctor. I felt a wave of relief when my proctor said I wasn’t too late for the test.

My proctor was very helpful with getting me ready for the test, checking my surrounding, etc. I started the test with the Logic Games section. About 5 minutes into the section my test was interrupted by a screen saying I was disconnected from the proctor, and my test was also stopped. I opened the chat box with my proctor and told them it had disconnected. They helped me get back into the section but before they could, they had me go into the system preferences of my computer and do a lot of troubleshooting, then eventually I had to reboot my computer. This was not by choice, but what my proctor, who had control of my screen, was requesting of me. With nothing else to do, I obliged. My computer screen went black for about 15 seconds then came back on. I was terrified. The proctor then told me I could begin my test again and that my test was paused at the initial disconnect, meaning I wouldn’t lose any time in the test. But as I started the test again, I am almost positive I lost time in the section. At least a few minutes had passed that I did not get back in that games section. I finished the section, regardless, putting in my absolute best effort and trying not to think about what had just occurred.

I began my Logic Reasoning section next. 20 minutes in, I coincidentally check my time and see that I have 15 minutes left. A few seconds later, the same disconnect that happened in the Logic Games section occurs. This time, I tell my proctor I have disconnected yet again and they lead me back into the exam. This was only a detour of about a minute and I did not lose any time in the section but was sufficiently paused at the time of my disconnect. As I am working through the section, suddenly I see a notification bouncing at the bottom of my screen from my proctor, and I think, “why is my proctor messaging me while I am trying to focus on my test?” Of course, I don’t react or respond to the notification and continue, although I am very distracted by the bouncing icon. A little while later a new tab suddenly opens on my browser and disrupts my test. It is not your average pop up, but a ProctorU support page requesting that I submit a survey regarding my technical assistance. Mind you, this was during my Logical Reasoning section with about 10 minutes left while completing the most difficult questions in the section. Stunned and disappointed, I immediately close the window. Again, I see a notification at the bottom of my screen from my proctor. I ignore it and haphazardly finish the section, however the interruptions undoubtably affected my performance negatively.

As soon as the time is called for the Logical Reasoning section, I have 60 seconds before the Reading Comprehension section begins and I check to see what my proctor had said. There was a second chat box opened (I assume it was because I had to re download the zip file that allowed the screen sharing by the proctor) and in the text box it said something along the lines of, “you have left the testing screen” presumably talking about when the tech support survey screen appeared 10 minutes before. To be honest, I don’t remember exactly what the chat box told me, but I was worried my test had been flagged for something completely out of my control. This carried into my performance on the Reading Comprehension section. I remember the chat saying I had been disconnected from my proctor, but the first chat box with my initial proctor was still open. So I messaged them defending myself and saying, “I did not leave the screen, a new tab opened during the test from ProctorU and I closed it within seconds”. I now had 15 seconds left until my Reading Comprehension section began. Petrified that my months of hard work had been for nothing, I finished the third section without any disconnects, and my test was complete.

This experience has left me feeling rather defeated. I went into this test with a great mindset and countless hours of studying under my belt. I find these technical issues to be extremely unfair and unprofessional. The internet speed in my house is impeccable and has never been an issue before, so I am left searching for a reason why my test would disconnect multiple times. Luckily I do not suffer from a diagnosed anxiety disorder, because this would certainly be something to trigger a panic attack during the test. That being said, it it can be reasonable expected for any normal person to be affected negatively by the stress of this type of circumstance. Thankfully, I was able to stay composed and complete my sections, but I did so with fear in the back of my mind rather than the 100% concentrated focus I expect when taking such an important test.

This was one of the most pertinent days of my life and to go through this nightmare is beyond disheartening. I had read about technical difficulties similar to mine since the first flex test in August on the 7sage forum, and I prayed nightly that I would be luckier. Unfortunately, this format of the LSAT does not only favor those with intellect, but those who are lucky enough to not experience a technical difficulty. Where is the justice for those of us who have lost time on our sections, for those of us who have planned out an entire year based on taking a specific LSAT date and have etched out the perfect amount of time to complete applications but are now impeded by uneasiness and worry as we may have to take the exam in January and apply later than the rest of the pool, or even worse, wait another year to apply to law school? As future law students, we deserve a lot better than this system of consistent failure. I sit here, still, in utter shock and I wonder if I will be able to attend a satisfactory law school next fall.

As a reparation for my suffering today I request a full refund that I may use to take a later test, and a confirmation that my test has not be flagged.

I look forward to speaking further about this situation. Until then, have a great day.

-Lucia Izzolo

Admin Note: Related thread is located here: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/25548/october-lsat-flex-issues

Hi, I just finished the October LSAT and now turn to the writing part. Do anyone know if we need a web camera for the LSAT writing? Can I use a computer without camera? Thank you!

Feeling frustrated because I feel like as I practice games, I'm only memorizing those specific games and not getting better at making inferences. Any advice/perspective?

What size paper is allowed for flex? I've been using legal pad, will that be okay??

Can a claim that's not supported be considered as an intermediate conclusion?

Can intermediate conclusions be attacked (even though they're also a premise?)

Asking due to PT 67 LR Section 4 Q24 - If we accept that If not Larocque, then Student, why would C weaken the argument?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-67-section-4-question-24/

Hi all,

For LR, does anyone have any tips on how to flag questions to go back to during time? I usually finish my first sweep of the questions w/ 10 to 12 minutes on the clock, flagging questions along the way. However, when I finish BR, there's always a few questions that I got wrong and didn't go back to (either in time or in BR). It seems like a case of not knowing what I don't know. I also worry that I'm wasting time on some of the questions that I flag but ultimately got right on my first pass through.

I’m getting rid of practice exams and books that I had purchased. Message me for more details.

I am taking the October Flex and I have a question about the LSAT writing. I took the LSAT last July, when it first became digital and cancelled my score after being able to see it. I have an LSAT writing on record on the lsac website from 7/15/19, which I am able to read. It also gives me an option to "launch lsat writing" for this October test....do I need to do a new lsat writing section or can the one I already have on file be used?

Recently on a reddit post I found people saying it was okay to use command F on the flex test for RC and refer back to a specific part on a passage. This sounded kind of "sus" to me but I wanted to make sure and ask people here that might know. But if it is allowed that would be a major hack for myself and I'm sure many others, as I often have an idea of what a question is referring too and all i need is a way to quickly go back to that exact part in the passage and confirm my thoughts.

If you have a rule that says for example either P or L will be selected and you write the rule as /P->L and /L->P, could both L and P be selected?