A long and hard 8 months and I'm finally done studying for the LSAT. It was my dream throughout this study experience to be able to post something like this. I am absolutely thrilled to see this score today, it is the most fulfilling experience I've had, to see my hard work worth it in the end.

Thank you so much JY for making me a logic games pro and being an absolutely fantastic instructor. Will happily share with anyone how I studied!!!! :) Good luck to anyone studying -- You got this!!!!!

I had a 140's diagnostic around January 2020 and was stuck in the 160's since at least March 2020 (with an occasional 170+ score but these were on older pre-J07 tests only-- I only got one 170 score on newer PT)

Like many of you, I was aiming for a 170+ score on the real LSAT, but I was scared as hell because I was stuck in the mid-160's for sooooo long; to be exact, I was stuck at 166 for almost every single preptest in the 70's and 80's

After I took the 2020 August LSAT I continued to study assuming I was going to have to retake for October, and my score actually dropped from 166 to 164 during these past 2 weeks in the last few preptests I took; it made me so sad and scared

Just found out I got a 170 today

So relieved...

P.S. For those who wanted to know how I studied, I have used 7sage (obviously) but never did the CC; I had one hour of tutoring but the tutor just didn't work for me, and I am cash-strapped, so I didn't hire a tutor ever again

In addition-- here are my 2 cents:

Contrary to popular belief, the LSAT is incredibly formulaic; so even if you have no natural LSAT gift (like me), by recognizing what wrong answers look like and what right answers look like, the LSAT becomes almost like math

LEARN from your mistakes; and when I say learn, I don't just mean understand why each answer is right and why each answer is wrong; go one step further by learning WHY you thought an answer was wrong (when it was actually right) and vice versa, and then write down what you learned in a journal and review that journal so that you don't miss questions like that ever again

so many questions on the actual test I think I got right simply because I spent hours/days/WEEKS trying to fully understand a few really hard problems (especially in LR); as a result, on test day, there were so many questions where, while none of the answers looked right, I just picked an answer based on pattern recognition of wrong answer choices that I wrote down in my LSAT journal

it is not about how many PT's you take, but how well you review; the 2 weeks before the LSAT, I spent the entire time just making sure I fully understood PT 88 in its 100% entirety; apparently doing that worked

And lastly, THANK YOU to everyone on this forum who has answered my LSAT questions-- I couldn't have done it without you all

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official August 2020 LSAT-Flex Discussion Thread.

**Please keep all discussions of the August 2020 LSAT-Flex here!**(/red)

Rules:

❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅‍♂️

You CANNOT say things such as the following:

I finally broke 170 and I never have to take the LSAT again. My diagnostic score was a 161 and I just got a 171. I got those 10 points by studying with 7Sage. Thanks J.Y.

Just received my August LSAT Flex score. I had been studying since May / Early June, while working an internship at the beginning of my studies.

I come from a political background, worked in politics, and have a 3.7 GPA. My diagnostic was a 142 in April. And I began PT'ing from 159-162 all summer . . . (which is okay since I am Canadian and honestly was aiming for 160's). My final official score was a 149. Since it was my first time taking the LSAT, I signed up for score preview and cancelled that immediately!

Overall, I feel really bad about myself to say the least.. and I don't really think my family and friends understand the challenges and nuances of the test ... which is fine but overall, feeling very low and alone. Don't really know what else to say except that I still really want to go to law school, as my whole life has been working up to this point. I am hoping to get back into the swing of things, since i took the past 2 weeks as a break (I never really took breaks this summer) and hopefully since I registered as a back-up for the November the test I can get back to PT'ing in the 160's.

I usually did timed sections, did not really do as much blind review of ALL answers on PT's . . . only the ones I got wrong.

I honestly just want a 165 and my sanity back.

Any tips from those who have had retake? Maybe studying tips or a study group... I don't know.

Also, I am applying this cycle. So I am also stressed with essay writing and now studying. So, time management tips also welcome.

Thanks for listening.

Hi there,

This will be my 3rd time writing the LSAT, I switched to 7sage in the middle of studying for my second exam and love it, it has been way more descriptive/helpful. I have a question; visually writing down the SA + Pseudo questions does not help me (translating it into lawgic). In fact, I find it takes me more time and confuses me way more. I usually can get about 50-80% of the questions right (depending on the day) by just working it out in my head and eliminating answer choices. Is this bad? Should I re-do the whole translations portion of the course to better understand it going forward? I know some people have their reservations on this...Any suggestions would help! PS. I am aiming for the November exam as I was waitlisted at 4 schools (now 3 as one school emailed me and advised they are full).

ive been studying since february as a full-time undergrad and was consistently around the high 160s-low 170s for tests. just got my score and it's a 162.

i don't know what went wrong? i know the score itself is fine, but it is so far off my expectations. i don't know where to go from here. i've been so over this test ever since i took it in august -- how do i get back to studying?

I went from a 152 diagnostic and just got my score back and I got a 170!!! I genuinely never believed this was possible for me and was so upset and anxious so much throughout the process. Don't give up, you can do it! I worked full time this summer, and was a full time student in the spring. I started studying in March, and used 7sage to get from the 163ish mark to pt above 170. I self-studied with powerscore before 7sage. My highest pt was only a 172 though. Believe in yourself, hype yourself up, and know that YOU can do this!!!

I read the LSAT bibles and took a few paper tests for a month, and then I spent 3 months on 7Sage. Thank you to JY, 7Sage community, and @GrindMode . If you put your effort into LSAT study, you can make huge strides. Don't forget your spiritual, physical, and mental health along the way. Peace.

Is anyone else having issues with the lsac website and trying to see their scores?

Hey everyone!

I'm looking to get some more LR practice under my belt and hone in on my skills by tutoring. I have yet to master this section, but I have improved a good amount. When first starting out I started out averaging -13/-14 per LR section and have gotten that down to -4/-5! I'm looking to primarily tutor those early in their studying stage and have difficulty with concepts!

Hi all. I took my LSAT Writing sample for the August 2020 test at the beginning of September. With 18 minutes on the clock, the program froze and deleted everything I had written. I speed rewrote my essay but obviously it wasn't the best it could be. When I got the receipt of my essay, I saw a typo, too. I called LSAC the next day and told her about my issue and asked to reset it, and she said she would. Now it's September 16 and I'm still not seeing any change under my LSAT Writing tab. Score release is supposed to be in two days.

I'm on the phone with LSAC again and the lady (who is super nice) told me that she had no record of me asking to reset my sample and if I reset it now, I may not get my August score back until October 7. I'm signed up for the October LSAT so obviously I'd like to get my August LSAT back before then. She read my sample and told me that it's really good and told me there was only one typo in it. Is is worth resetting my sample? I'm applying with a low GPA so I really want every other part of my application to be the best it could possibly be, but I'm wondering if I'm just putting too much energy into something that's not really worth it. It is unscored, after all.

Hey all, I recently started working with @tmh5947 & he is AMAZING! He's a pro in Logic Games, I was so overwhelmed learning LG, but Tyler made it less tedious and easy to understand! The best part is, for those on a budget like me, he only charges $25 and hour. The first half hour is free, so it's $12 for the first session! Tyler's super sweet and is EXTREMELY knowledgable. This is not an advertisement, I truly work with Tyler, and I couldn't be happier. For anyone who wants to reach out, his e-mail is tmh5947@psu.edu

You WON'T be disappointed.

Does anyone have any advice on getting LG down from -3 average to -1/0? I am currently averaging -2 on both LR and RC, so this is the only thing holding my score back from my goals. I have done every game from PT 1-35 multiple times and am not sure how to proceed. Should I continue taking full PTs and redoing the new games? I would not say i'm struggling with any particular game type, but I tend to make 1 costly error like misreading a rule and losing a ton of time before figuring it out. Any advice would be appreciated.

With every flex preptest I take. there is a leftover LR section. Is there a way to do these as a separate timed sections?

I noticed that JY provides a goal time for every Logic Game, but that there is also a goal time for each question when reviewing answers. These do not always correspond. Which is the correct one to refer to?

Hey everyone, I just completed the advanced logic lesson. Most of it made sense, until embedded conditionals.... Reviewing the intro to logic section. 7Sage said they are very rare but very hard.

I am just curious, how hung up should I get on the embedded conditionals stuff ? I suppose as it is the hardest logic lesson I shouldn't be so down about not having it stick after only a day or two of reading the advanced section. But that being said. I have watched the advanced logic section a couple times now, at this point I feel like I am just wasting time ! I am not trying to sound pompous but thus far nothing has ever really made me feel this stupid before and it has me questioning my whole study study plan.

Should I just forge ahead and hopefully this stuff will click with more time and practice/following more along the core curriculum ? In all honesty I am only shooting for a mid 150 range score, Is embedded conditionals worth stressing over ?

Other then that, If anyone has any advice or extra material on this stuff I am all ears. Thanks !

Hey all, so I am just concerned with my actual skill in LG. I just spent about 3 and a half months foolproofing every game I did within the first 35 PTs. Every game that I come back to review and have already FoolProofed, I ace it. Done in time, and every question right. I remember most of every inference, especially for more difficult games. The dilemma lies in the fact that when I arrive upon a NEW game that I have never seen before, I tend to struggle, a lot. This makes me feel as if my FoolProofing was for nothing - just because I can remember every inference that I have already seen, yet still cant make them on my own very well when I see new games. Really stressed and just want to start PTing, as I have done everything I can so far to get to that point.

Any help appreciated.

Hey everybody, If anyone needs any help with LG I can help increase your score! I’ve done all the available games through 7Sage (I think 380 games in total). Please please message me if you need help!

I'm 30, work full time, and have a Bachelor of Education and this was my very first time writing a real LSAT. I had LR, LG, LR, LR, RC and I felt like I completely forgot how to do anything in LG and am pretty sure I guessed for the majority. After that, I didn't feel very confident in anything I was doing. I applied to law school for September 2020 and it's too late now to take the January test.

I'm debating between A) cancelling my score and abandoning any chance of law school Sept 2020 and taking the LSAT again and applying for Sept 2021 or B ) risking it out and seeing what my score is and applying anyway. The school I really want averages LSAT scores and their average acceptance score is 160. I'm really worried I scored less than 140. I'm leaning toward cancelling my score - any advice?

Hello! I've been scoring around a -4/-5 on LR the past few weeks. I'm looking for advice on how to increase my accuracy even further. I also find I spend a lot of time on parallel flaw questions and will still end up getting them wrong. I'd appreciate any advice for how to be more efficient on those. Thank you so much in advance!

Hey everyone,

I range from -12 to -3 on timed LR sections on my PTs. Does anyone have suggestions? I've gone through the Powerscore LR Bible, it didn't help me much. I blind review and can usually correct myself. I just can't manage to stay consistent with my LR scores :/

Hi,

Can anyone explain why B is right here?

It seems, when watching JY's explanation, that the reason why B is right is because it provides an explanation for the phenomena-- perhaps the other dinosaur was a baby, and that is why it has T-rex features but small size. However, when I tried to flesh this explanation out, it just didn't seem to work:

if the dinosaur is really old, it strengthens the argument by giving an example of a dinosaur that has T-rex features but is small

if the dinosaur is a baby, it still seems to strengthen the argument by giving an example of a dinosaur that has T-rex features but is small

Thus, even though it does provide an explanation for the phenomena seen in the argument, I don't see how the dinosaur being a baby would provide an alternative explanation that could weaken the stimulus' argument when the argument never gave an explanation for the phenomena in the first place.

Hope that makes sense to people reading this

Any #help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Could any one help me explain this?

Hi Everyone. My biggest struggle is logical reasoning and timing . I’m always able to bring the answer choices down to two and then end up picking the wrong answer but the correct answer was the other choice. Please help on tips/ strategies.