I noticed that in some of the newer PT's there is a small 'citation' at the top of some (but not all) of the passages.

E.g. Passage 1 of PT 81 - "This passage was adapted from an article published in 2003". Just curious if this is something that is EVER relevant to answering the questions?

I could see LSAT using an excerpt from a "scientific journal" and there being a curve-Breaker question that hinged on the knowledge that this was geared towards non-popular audience, for example. Has anyone seen anything like this?

If not, why are they including this piece of information on some (but not all) of the passages?

Hi everyone,

So I had a discussion with a fellow 7sager about the conditional relationship v ----> /z and how it pertains to grouping/in/out games.

My understanding from the CC is that this relationship would not constitute a bi-conditional, because we can fail the sufficient condition /v, rendering the rule irrelevant. If it were a bi-conditional, /z would have to also be a sufficient condition for v, but this doesn't seem to be the case because as I just mentioned we can have v (v IN) and /v (v OUT). For this to be a bi-conditional would it not have to further be specified that we must have "either v or z, but not both" ?

The other 7sager mentioned that it would be a bi-conditional in a two group, non In/Out game. I was under the impression however that all two group grouping games can be conceived of as In/Out games -we seem to just arbitrarily assign one group as the in group and one group as the out group.

I would really appreciate any help because this has been running through my mind all day.

Hi everyone! I would like to hear some suggestions on books for learning (American) literature knowledge. I'm an ESL and have never learned anything about American literature. I'm fine with RC passages that talk about literature since the pattern is quite obvious, but I feel like even if I understand the argument, there are always a lot of concepts in the passages that I just don't know and they're just some meaningless nouns to me. This makes the passages quite boring. For example, different kinds of devices, poetic forms, sonnet, couplet, quatrain, imagery, folk narrative, different genres of literature. I genuinely want to learn them, so that next time I read a literature passage, they would be more like real things in real life to me. And reading those passages would be more fun. Any advice is welcomed! Thanks!

Hi everyone! I'm taking the July LSAT Flex on July 14 and I was wondering how everyone else is spending these last couple of days before the test. Are you still hitting the books hard? Will you be taking any breaks before the test? What do you have planned for your day-of/day-before routine? I've read some discussions where people take a day or two off before the test, so I just wanted to see what everyone else has planned.

How important is memorizing Groups 1-4 on a scale of 1-10 and why don't we throw in Conclusion & Premise indicators?

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Can someone break down the stimulus and translate it for me? I feel like I don't understand what the stimulus is trying to say.

Why does the society has a policy decision to make? why pay $240,000? does that mean the society is paying for the experiment? why is it 120 * $2000? Also why is it only saving one more patient, if the drug goes onto the market wouldn't that benefit more people since its 1 more person per 120? And lastly why is the NA here is there is no other way of telling if S effective as T? Isn't the stimulus already established that trial shows that T would prevent 1 more death out of 120 than S would? So isn't that the effectiveness of the drug?

I'm confusion.

Hi everyone,

I am planning on taking the June LSAT Flex in Asia and had to secure a time slot last week.

Well.. the available time slots all looked ridiculous. I guess this is because they need to follow the US time?

The only available time in Asia time was in the range of something like 5:20am, 5:30am, 5;40am., or, 9:30pm, 9:40 pm.

These are all ridiculous..... I chose a night time slot because I just am not a morning person (although the usual 8:30am start time for regular LSAT should have been reasonable). I do believe LSAT heavily requires you to have intense focus and concentration (and that's why the regular LSAT starts from 8:30...isn't it?)

When I tried to find more information, there wasn't much.

is anyone having a similar problem right now? or, which time slot would you recommend? or should I contact the LSAC for this (don't think they will do much about it...)

I am soooo not looking forward to this.

Can anyone explain why the correct answer here is C instead of E?

My problem with C was that, in order for C to weaken the stimulus, we'd need to assume that the landlords would take out the energy-conserving equipment once they install the energy meters. If the energy-conserving equipment stayed in once they installed the energy meters, then I don't know how any energy would be conserved because the tenants are living within the same energy standard whether they have the meter or not.

Thus, I thought that a better answer would be E. Granted, E does say "some" making it very logically weak, but at least it reveals something that could weaken the argument in the stimulus (which I don't think any of the other answers even come close to doing). If some people conserved energy for non-financial reasons before landlords installed the energy meters, then this would make it more likely that these people would not care about the new energy meters because they never saved energy for financial reasons in the first place.

Thanks!

Best regards

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Hi I was reviewing PT65.4.5. There is a sentence that says "The plaintiff has applied to the court for an order permitting her to question each defendant without their codefendants or their codefendants' legal counsel being present."

Let's say codefendants stands for A. Codefendants' legal counsel being present stands for B. The sentences says the order permits her to question each defendant without A OR B. I'm wondering whether I should treat the it as without (A or B ), or (without A or without B ). The former should mean [no A and no B], the latter should mean [no A or no B]. How do I decide how to interpret the sentence?

And what about without A AND B?

I came up with an example myself. I can live without video games OR sugar. I would naturally think it means if I don't have video games AND sugar, I am still fine. But if the sentence says "I can live without video games AND sugar", it seems to mean the same thing. So what's the difference?

Additionally, "if I don't have video games and sugar" also seems to mean the same thing as "if I don't have video games or sugar" in English, right? Even if logically the latter has three possibilities -- no video games only, no sugar only, no video games and no sugar, when you say the latter, you actually mean no video games and no sugar, right?

I’m led to this question because of these steps (below) that I took lol. Correct me at any point if there is a flaw in how I went about it!

In 72-2-25, /A and /B strengthens A cause B. We want to strengthen the argument’s assumption by showing that A causes B (buy online cause /use car), so we say /A and /B (/buy online and use car). This makes sense to me intuitively because the CAC is saying that /cause correlated with /effect, which strengthens the relationship between cause and effect.

OK SO, IF /A ← correlated→ /B strengthens A -cause-> B (what we have above - no cause and no effect strengthens cause → effect ), does that mean:

A -cause-> B, which implies A ← correlated→ B, implies /A ← correlated → /B?

And if the answer is yes or no, is there a cleaner theoretical reason why?

*footnote: I shortened direct mail advertising (buy phone or online) from 72-2-25 to just “buy online” to focus purely on the theory part. From 72-2-25: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-25/, but this idea has also come up for me as a question in other causation q's.

Has anyone gotten their disclosed report from the June Flex yet? Mine still says that it's not available for me to view

I just finished fool proofing games from 1-35 and I was consistently doing most of them all right within time once I got a hang of it. I took two full timed sections today and scored -4 and -5. I did my blind review (before seeing my results) under timed constraints and managed to get a -0 and -1. Is this a transitioning issue that will go away once I do full sections more frequently or do I have to approach sections differently?

I was wondering if JY has any 'live-commentary' type of video where he completes a RC passage on the Digital Exam. I am taking the July Flex and struggle a lot with RC because I can't write notes on the passage.

I am a little confused about the weak answer and strong answer choice in necessary assumption question. So it said in the CC that we should always look for weak answer choice, and most strong answer choices are wrong when it comes to NA question.

But sometimes I also see strong answer choice as the correct answer. For example, PT 24 Section 2, Q17. The AC B : "no nation that was not among the major powers at the end of the second world war would become a major power"

Is this a strong language AC? So in a situation we should focus on weak/strong language AC?

Thank you!

I am wondering if people are taking the time to fool proof the problem sets (10x+) and game board setup example questions? I feel like I should be fool proofing wherever possible, but I also recognize the time commitment. Any thoughts?

Just wanted to post as possible inspiration and as a thank you to JY and the entire 7sage community! When I first started studying I remember seeing people post things online that claimed to not anticipate an increase of over 10 points from your initial diagnostic; know that is completely untrue. If it wasn't for my intense, I mean, INTENSE lack of desire to take a gap year I would probably skip this cycle and keep at it for the 170. The test is absolutely learnable as long as you put in the work and you have patience with your brain as it learns how to process information in the way the test writers are looking for. I will be re-testing in an attempt to solidify my score in the 90th percentile (that insane RC and 4 hours of sleep really did me in on test day LOL). But I just wanted to say congratulations to all who completed this test during such a crazy year. If you feel yourself wanting to reach out don't hesitate to message me!

I know this is a great score, but my average for PTs was 176 so I was hoping for one a bit higher on test day. I know I messed up the LG on the June test which is usually a perfect section for me.

I want to retake, the only thing holding me back is the idea that some of the top schools like Harvard will be irritated if you retake a score that's already at their median. I've been studying so hard for this to make up for a lack of prestige for my undergraduate college and decent, but not amazing, softs.

My gut tells me I want to retake it because I think I can do better. I've also heard that getting a higher score could get you more scholarship money to lower T14s.

What do you all think? Should I retake it?

Cold diagnostic in April 2019 was 142, after over a year of studying solely with 7Sage (on and off due to working full time) I snagged a 169 with the June FLEX. Kudos to 7Sage for making such an affordable, effective studying platform.

Any suggestions on how to improve my in/out and double layered sequencing?

LG is keeping my score under 160.

Thnx.

why is the answer e and not c? can someone break down the logic for me?

Scored 163 after completing the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim, with 7Sage LG videos that were freely available back in February. I realized then I needed a better resource that could help me practice more methodically, and that's when I subscribed to 7Sage. 4 months have past since, and I got my 173 today! Thanks 7Sage

Couldn't believe my eyes today --- I scored multiple points above my recent practice test average!! I am so grateful for JY and the 7sage discussion/advice forums. Without this company, I don't think I would've stayed hopeful and dedicated through every studying plateau. Thank you a million.

Can’t believe it really happened, I had given up on the LSAT twice in the last 5 years and my last real score was a 167. Absolutely could not have pulled this off without those LG videos. Thanks J.Y.!

I started studying for the LSAT at the beginning of quarantine because corona switched up my plans and I decided to go to law school this fall. I started off with a diagnostic of 146 and felt very discouraged. However, after consistent studying I was able to score a 158 on the June Flex and have a good chance at getting into my dream school. Thank you so much 7Sage!! But I do not recommend only two months of consistent studying it was really stressful haha

Thank you 7Sage community! Could not have done this without everyone. I am so incredibly excited and relieved right now.

Everyone out there getting ready for July and August, keep at it, you got this!