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Learning and practicing the lawgic stuff. I promise this is the last one for tonight (its 1:30 am).

Given:

If Wong is appointed arbitrator, a decision will be reached promptly. Since it would be absurd to appoint anyone other than Wong as arbitrator, a prompt decision can reasonably be expected.

I did:

Wong -> Prompt

/Wong -> Absurd

[assumption] /Absurd

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Wong

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Prompt

In other words, there is like an intermediate assumption and subconclusion or something happening. We have "if Wong is not chosen as arbitrator, it would be absurd" [assumption] "we are not absurd", therefore, Wong is implicitly chosen. And since Wong -> Prompt, therefore, Prompt!

I have just not seen the lecturer or anyone do a notation yet for this assumption or intermediate conclusion stuff yet. Is there a defined way to do this I should follow?

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Monday, May 18

😖 Frustrated

Score Fluctuations

Hey all,

Wondering how to prevent score fluctuations. I was doing LR sections and consistently scoring around -2 with highest most recently being a -0. Then yesterday i decided to take a full PT without the experimental (PT 158) and scored a 164. My RC score was the highest it had ever been but my LRs were -6 and -4

I am taking the June test. Any advice on how to prevent these crazy swings and burnout. Last time I took an official LSAT I had the same problem where I was scoring pretty high and then one PT was super low and from then on I was stuck at the super low end score. Probably burnt myself out because I was so stressed about the low score.

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Sunday, May 17

😖 Frustrated

Need advice to get a 165z

So I took my first timed section this weekend. I got a 150 on a full PT and feeling not great about it.

I have been studying seriously for 6 months straight. Any advice would help. I am considering getting a tutor. Any advice would be helpful, I can message my analytics.

My goal is a 165.

My best untimed sections at 19/25 for LR 21/27 for Reading. I will say from the beginning I have seen improvements but people on the internet make me feel like I am slower to learn the LSAT!

It could be a timing issue, the 4 star and 5 star questions are simply hard.

Lmk

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I have been seeing mixed messages on this topic and wanted some clarity on this sub. I took the LSAT for the first time in April and got a 160, my goal is 170+. I registered for the June test but have had only a few days to keep practicing questions and reviewing. I have work travel coming up, I've been super sick, hosted family in town, etc. and feel like I am not confident I will improve my score much by the June test. Do I still take it since I already paid for it? What is the real downside of score another 160 or potentially slightly lower? I would feel more confident pushing to August but figured I already paid the several hundred bucks, and could use it as extra practice even if I don't do as well as I'd hoped.

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Hi all!

I am somewhat new to the LSAT. I have been pretty religious with my note-taking, but I am struggling with the organizational aspect. I was wondering if anyone has organized their notes in a specific way that worked for them?

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Is there a way to calculate your score excluding the questions I did not answer? I want to know how I'm performing without using guessing. My timing of each section is poor but until I build up speed I want to see my score and know if I'm improving or not. Hope this makes sense and thanks for the help.

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Sunday, May 17

😖 Frustrated

Drills and Blind Review

I have done the fast track drills for Logical Reasoning, and am now beginning to do practice drills. On these practice drills, I will get a bunch of questions wrong on my first time through and then get 100% or close to it on the blind review. Does anyone have any tips or tricks to get these questions right the first time through?

Thanks!!

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I am taking the LSAT in June, but may retake it in August, depending on how I do.

I have roughly 10 fresh tests left in the PT140-120 range. After that, I would have to take even older tests for them to be fresh.

Any suggestions for rationing tests? Really haven't thought about it before now (though I definitely should have) ....

I grind a lot of sections, and I think that has reduced my pool a decent amount.

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This is probably premature since I haven't taken a real LSAT yet. But currently I'm drilling in high 150s - low 160s, which an occasional jump to the high 160s, however, standardized tests are not my forte. I currently have a GPA well above most medians, so I was just wondering if anyone had advice for a person in my spot.

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  • The only thing necessary for A is B

  • The only requirement for A is B

  • All that is needed for A is B

Do these all indicate bidirectionals?

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Hi! So I've finally been on an upward trend. From earliest to most recent, my last 4 practice tests were a 168, 169, 168... and a 162, from today. I don't know if it's because PT 151 is notoriously difficult, but I don't want to make excuses since it is graded fairly and there is a big possibility that could be what my June LSAT experience is like. I don't know what happened; I thought I did a little worse but that shocked me. I genuinely took off like 1.5 days from studying because of burnout, but I didn't feel tired when I took the test! I'm nervous for my June LSAT now, as my goal score was a 168. I thought I had been prepping correctly, but I'm wondering if these more recent tests are going to reflect the actual test I take, although I did get a 169 on PT 150...

I don't even know what to work on anymore or how to improve. And worse, when I went to review the questions I got wrong, they didn't click like they usually do. There's no way what I'm being asked to do is different than any other time, yet it really felt like I was starting fresh today :(

#help !

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I just scored a 172 on PT 158 and most of the questions I miss now come from careless mistakes or overthinking rather than understanding the material. For people who scored in the 170s on the LSAT, what helped you tighten those last few errors?

Also, if you were simulating real testing conditions and were generally a strong standardized test taker, how close was your real score to your PT average?

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Friday, May 15

😖 Frustrated

Flakey Tutors

Hi - I need a reliable tutor to help me the last few weeks before my June test. Willing to pay for 2 weeks straight of tutoring and cramming. Please DM privately your details and how much etc.

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Saturday, May 16

🤯 Crazy

Starting Over!!

Hi All!

Just wondering if there is anyone at all in the same boat as me. I am reapplying to schools after being academically dismissed from another law school... for absolutely unacceptable and abhorrent reasons that have no reflection of my academic capabilities... but we are over that and not dwelling on it. I have decided to take the August LSAT. I have not taken it since 2024. I have never taken it without the Logic Games, and I was never given my proper FULL extra time accommodations.

After already experiencing a year and 1/2 in law school, my personality and confidence levels are totally different. I am also non-traditional (I am 39). Anyway, I am looking for people who are not super new to the LSAT, so people who have taken it a few times before. I am in Southern California, in case anyone is wondering. I have to nail this LSAT. I am aiming for about a 165-170 (realistically). I cannot stress the importance of taking those extra-time accommodations if you qualify for them. I felt the stigma of it back when I first started this process, so I only used the minimum, even though I qualify for the max. In school, I finally started using my full accommodations in my last term before my dismissal.

Lemme know if there are any study groups for "LSAT veterans" lol or wounded warriors ... people who enjoy this torture!!! .... who are forming a study group. I am enrolled in one of the weekly courses. It is the one that meets Mondays & Thursdays at 6pm (pacific time)/ 9pm (eastern). Much Love & Good Vibes to everyone!

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Thursday, May 14

😖 Frustrated

Conditional Logic

Confusing necessary and sufficient conditions is a problem for me. I’m trying my hardest to understand conditional logic through videos but it’s not clicking. Does anyone know any other methods or tools I could use? I’m a visual learner.

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My score on my last 2 practice tests have been the same. I have been journaling wrong answers and blind reviewing. What are some additional things I can do to help with this?

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