I just finished a PT that made use twice of "it is," in english to convey logic, in one SA question. This indicator is not in the CC and honestly, thinking about if the word following "it is" was necessary or sufficient slowed me down drastically.

"it is" is a group TWO indicator. This might be intuitive for most people but it definitely was not for me. My uncertainty was compounded when the context of the statement was "It is imprudent to appear prudent." Of course, finding the conditionality is a lot easier when the statement is "it is good to go outside," but I wanted to share what I have learned in hopes that others will not be thrown off if you happen to come across this indicator in the future!

Hey everyone, I’m having trouble with RRE questions.

Does anyone know what the relationship between weaken and RRE questions is?

I never got to hear JY’s explanation in the CC.

Thank you in advance.

Hello,

I came across a weakening question(in the PT 60s)where the LSAT writers are messing with the difference between financial rewards and salary. Now, I just wanna make sure that I'm not imaging myself but I totally had a deja vu moment after getting it wrong earlier today because I swear there was almost an identical question on the very same concept somewhere in the PT 50s.... Have I gone crazy or can anyone vouch for me here haha. Has this been tested multiple times throughout the LSAT history?

Many thanks! :)

I have such a hard time with Logic Reasoning no matter what the question types may be. I read the stimulus and understand it for the most part and pick the "correct" answer confidently, then do a blind review, but, when I review my answers I am almost always wrong. Once I watch JY's explanations of the questions I can see clearly why I picked the wrong answer choice - and it is for the most part a stupid mistake from either reading the passage incorrectly or the questions.I have tried to improve by slowing down and even reading the questions and possible answer choices multiple times, but that hasn't been helpful as I am still going with my gut and picking the wrong answer choice.I am really good at Logic games and fairly good with RC - but I can't seem to improve on LR. Any suggestions?

I've been drilling Flaw questions pretty hard the last two days and I'm not making much of an improvement. On the easier questions (lvl1-3) I can easily identify the flaw and rarely miss. On harder questions (lvl 4&5) I seem to struggle much more and often rely on the answer choices to identify the flaw for me in the few I am able to get right. Is there something I could do to try and improve this question type?

I'm realizing I'm reading the stimulus too quickly and therefore stupidly losing points on fact-based questions (RRE, MSS) and missing key assumptions that are made in the conclusion (scope, subset, etc).

So how do you all read? What do you focus on? Underline? Where do you slow down? When do you pause? What are you looking for?

Right now I'm really focusing on taking in every single word of the conclusion bc that's often where the errors are made, but I would love to know if there's anything else that I can/should be doing.

Hey ! . I had a moment today while studying and I just wanted to seek some more advice . So I am currently still learning logic reasoning by question type. I’ve completed mbt, mss, strength and weaken questions . Yesterday as I practiced my untimed strengthen questions I scored 14/16 . Feeling on top of the world I said it’s time to do a mixed review timed of all the question types I’ve learned thus far . Unfortunately I scored 5/12 on just the mbt and a few strengthen questions. I gave myself 5 full minutes to get these answers correct and I didn’t make myself feel bad for not complying some outside of the 5 minutes. However I did worst. Does this mean I still don’t understand the question types ? I haven’t done more than the first 20 PTs but I’m concerned that I need to do something different or is it just the process ?

What do you think?

Also is there anyone who has logic reasoning packets that can help me study by question type ??

Hey all, I hope everyone did well on July test! Unfortunately, I'm a bit stumped since I did poor on one of the LR sections. For those of you who had an LG experimental, were the following questions real or experimental?

In addition, does anyone recall if the nutritional deficiencies question was the 2nd question of the first or second real LR?

Hello everyone,

I am currently going through the CC, and I am having major difficulties with the parallel questions and the necessary questions. For the parallel reasoning + flaw questions, I do understand the answers for the easier questions but as they get more difficult and implement Formal Logic, my brain gives up on me. I’m having GREAT difficulty in translating lawgic to English. And I have no idea how to improve. I tried going back to the logic sections and I understand those lessons,but I really stumble with translating when I see real problems . Also for necessary assumptions, I just don’t know how to solve these problems. I understand what kind of answer I have to look for, but every time I see a new problem, I feel like I’m not understanding what I have to do fully.

Please give me any advice ! Thank you so much everyone

I saw that D was the right answer but why is B wrong? Thanks!

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Hey Guys, so I know JY had a blind review session on the reading comp and other sections. Is there a way for me to retrieve the webinars for this blind review?

Also, where can I go to get the video explanations/discussions for PT 84?

#help I’m about to start method of reasoning questions. However, I’m not sure if I missed a particular lesson with the different types of arguments that may or may not be expressed.

For example: if the question uses argument by analogy I know the form because it was literally the first question we went over in the curriculum.

I was wondering if there were a list of different argument types so I have some idea what what I’m looking for.

I’m worried because when I tried to do these questions before viewing the video, they turned out to be difficult partly because I did not know what I was looking for.

Yes I understand these questions are heavy in referential phrasing, but from what I understand is that other companies give you a list of different argumentation by analogy, wisdom of the masses, over generalization and so and so forth. So I was wondering if there was a complete list of method(s) of reasoning.

Thanks

Chuggin’

Hello everyone, currently freaking out from yesterday's LSAT. Probably just in post LSAT stress but I am currently fearing for the worst. Heres the run down, I usually score really well on the LG sections, like finish with extra time and miss 0-2 questions tops. This has helped me consistently meet my goal of 170 and higher on my PTs. However, yesterdays daunting LG games destroyed me, it was none of the practice LG's I had seen and I had done a good amount of PT's. I felt so bad once the section ended that I swore my only saving grace was if it was experimental, it wasn't. I couldn't even finish it in time and honestly can't remember if I bubbled in the 2 questions I didn't get to. I remember marking so many as ones that I needed to go back on to check which I rarely have to do in PTs. I am trying to get into a T14 so this 170 is crucial. I felt pretty good on the other sections but you never really know. I had a mini panic attack when I found out this LG wasn't experimental and I don't want it to cost me my chance of a T14 since some average LSAT scores or need good reasons to accept the second score. Should I cancel? Or am I just being paranoid?

Hi everyone,

So I've finished the CC, took a PT to see where I'm at and, like lots of others, was disappointed in my score. My BR score is about 6 points lower than my goal score.

At the suggestion of other 7sagers, I am doing the following in no particular order:

My question is, should there be some sort of order to this studying? This may be too much, but I'd really love to create a schedule of what to study when, when to take PTs, etc. Without a schedule, I feel like I'm wasting possible opportunities for better understanding.

I would love to hear what sort of schedule/plan you're following if you've got one.

Thanks!

Hi Y'all,

So I am sure this has been discussed before but I am fairly new to the site so I have not seen it myself. So just to preface this post I have taken the LSAT twice (Scored in 150s both times) before taking this course. I did self-study for both so obviously I was doing something wrong and this course will hopefully rectify those mistakes.

Before I get too OT, I was just wondering what y'all did for your PT schedules? I am currently following the CC. Should I take PTs during the CC or should I wait until I have completed it to do them on my own? Also, how often should I take them? Once a week? Twice? And do you take them on the same day of the week or different days every time? I apologize for the multitude of questions but I am extremely curious as to what has worked/not worked for everyone else.

Thank you so much for your time!

Is there a specific reason why pt1-16 LR questions don’t have explanation videos? I was drilling these earlier pts but not having the videos to explain the passage makes understanding my mistake a little difficult.

For parallel flaw questions, how do we go about finding the correct answer choice? Are we looking for invalid arguments? Are we looking for answers that are opposite from the stimulus. Can someone clarify how I should go about finding the correct answer choice?

What is the best way to approach these questions? I’m not with 7Sage but using powerscore bibles and have the LSAT trainer but haven’t used it yet. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

I forget?! Thanks!

I do not understand why b is correct. Can someone help me understand why b is supported. Thank you for the help

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Hi Friends,

I'm calling upon the collective wisdom of the 7Sage community.

Long story short, I don't feel prepared for Monday's test. I haven't taken enough PTs and I'm not at a place where I feel comfortable with timing, etc. I work a full-time job, as a lot of 7Sage folks do, and I haven't put in the study hours that I'd like to.

I'd like to start law school in fall 2019. What do you all think - should I withdraw from the July test and take September's test or just go for it knowing that I'll likely need to retake it in September? I feel a bit stuck because even if I withdraw and take September's test, that still doesn't leave me a lot of time considering I will still have a full-time job.

Thanks Everyone.

I just completed the Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis Question section in the CC and have a few questions regards the content in there before I move on to Strengthening Questions. I'm first of all curious as to if those who have completed the problem sets did so in a timed manner (1:24) or if you took time on each question within each of the 15 sets to try and find the answer? Any additional info/different perspectives would be greatly appreciated!

Just curious.... It says "omitted from scoring" in question bank.

So what heppened to it?

What’s your schedule from today to test day on Monday? I did my last PT (84) today and scored what i typically score. No ugly or sexy surprises. Tomorrow, i have plans to go to my doctor appointment, read the economist, drill one section for confidence and meditate.

On Thursday, I’m getting a facial, meditating, watching movies. Then Friday-Saturday i will be reading the economist and meditating and doing 1-2 confidence sections as well as preparing my zip loc bag with test day stuff. Sunday night — nothing — will probably binge watch a show or something.

What are y’all doing?