I've been over 160 for over a month now (highest 164) (BR ~170 and on untimed drills I get -4 to -1 on LR/RC, -0 on LG). Working too much, trying to study part time, improvement has been slow. If I had another year I know I could reach 170, but I just don't want to put this all off. Anyway, I'm registered for the Dec. test to get apps out in January. I have important work and life experience I think will really help my application. For my target schools, I think 163 is my safe zone and anything past that will help me get financial aid (which I really need). I expect to get a boost of urgency and clarity under the final test pressure that will help, but some practice sections recently have got me uneasy.

I did an LG section today where I flipped a W upside down to an M while translating my rules, costing me that whole game and left me with no time for the fourth game. I've been finishing 3 games consistently with a little time to attempt the 4th game, but only one time have I finished all four.

I have tests 76-81, 46-51, and few 20s and 30s PTs untouched.

What should I do?

Drill games like mad and hope for my usual 18-21 on each of the other sections?

I don't want to burn out.

For those of us taking the test in December, how much of an improvement in your score are you hoping to see from now until then? I would love to consistently be scoring around 3 points higher than I am now, but that's probably pretty unrealistic.

Hi. Could anyone tell me why (c) weakens the arg? Isn't it irrelevant that it talks about errors of the data? Thank you in advance!! Happy studying everyone.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-3-question-26/

I took a look at the September LSAT and what questions I missed in the logical reasoning section. I scored a 147, and I would like to raise that score to a 155 or higher. I think that these questions are the key to that improvement.

Missed questions as follows:

Parallel Argument- 5

Flawed Reasoning- 3

SA- 4

NA- 5

Weakening- 3

MBT- 2

I was wondering if you could look at the question types that I missed and maybe help me pin point a few of the problems that are causing me to miss these questions types? Like am I not focusing on relationships or assumptions? Really, anything would help me.

I look at the questions and I think the issue falls somewhere between the SA, NA, and weakening questions. I know those questions are connected is similar style, but I am not sure how and why I am missing them. Thank you for the help.

On the first LR section or first section in general, I always seem to score lower than the rest of the sections.

I have tried doing some questions before starting a PT to warm up... nothing is helping.

Tips?

I'm at PT 26 now and I am struggling when I see a new game for the first time. It usually only takes me 3 attempts to "fool proof" it but when I see a new game, I struggle to increase my speed or even be close to the target sometimes (typically range between 1-4 mins over but every once in a while am WAY over).

I get the logic behind the games. My mistakes I feel are timing issues. Examples being when a questions reads like I will have to brute force and I hesitate, not being able to see how an AC works in my head quickly/having to write it out to see it. This becomes extremely frustrating when JY does a quick strategy that makes it look like a cake walk.

I feel so close to breaking through but my speed and seeing a couple steps ahead with the rules quickly in my head is killing my speed. Thoughts?

Hi,

I'm aware that the correct answer is A, but while PTing I thought that the wording was too extreme. I do agree that the main point is to focus more on narrative than the characteristics of the novel, but what let me to confidently cross this out was due to the word "purely."

Where in the passage does it imply that the "best" approach is to focus "purely" on narrative? Why not 90% on narrative and 10% on the characteristics of the novel? Who is to say that a clear dichotomy can be drawn between the two? Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-4-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-4-passage-3-questions/

Should I supplement with the LR Powerscore Bible, Manhattan Prep, etc. if I'm not thoroughly understanding something? Would a tutor be a better idea? There are a few sections where I can't even get all of the 4/5 difficulty questions correct. I understand them when I listen to JY's explanations, but I can't seem to get them right on my own. Would another approach from a different angle that I might understand be a good idea?

I have been doing confidence drills lately and I've been doing worse than I normally do. I usually miss between 5-6 per section, but on the last two I did I missed 9. Not quite sure what to make of it. I have been trying to get my timing to be 20 in 20 and 20-25 in 8, so I have 7 minutes to review whatever I skipped. I feel like this is considerably more difficult for me to do than my usual timing strategy, which quite honestly involves barely making it in time. On my last section I was able to get 17 in 20 and then I did 18-25 in 10, so I had 5 minutes to spare. Unfortunately, I felt like 5 minutes is not quite enough time to have leftover. I'm in a position where I'm not sure what to do to improve. I feel like I can sense the correct answer once I have a clear understanding of the stimulus, but I can't make the information click any faster. Any feedback would be super helpful

Most of us are now focusing on timing and endurance at this point, while some of us (like me) are still working on fool proofing logic games. Regardless, we all want to gather those extra points on test day. At this point, many of us have a good understanding of fundamentals but it really comes down to how many questions we can get correct on test day.

What are some strategies that worked for you in regards to timing different sections? LR/RC/LG?

For RC, would it make sense to really focus on three passages and guess on the last one? Especially for those aiming around between 160-165.

For LR, I know some people do the first 15 questions and then the last 5 on the section. Or aim to finish 25 questions in 25 minutes?

For LG, I say fool-proof the most recent games. They will be more representative of the newer games, which include double layering/substitution questions.

What has been working for you guys?

I made this thread so people can find what works for them through trial and error in these next couple of days leading up to test day!

Good luck everyone!!

Firstly, I was wondering how many LG's y'all fool-proof until you were -0 consistently on the games?? And how many were you doing a day? How long did it take? I've done about 180 LG and not all of them more then once and I am at -7.6 average. Just trying to gage how much more I have left to do, even though I know everyone's different when it comes to the LSAT.

Secondly, I just want to know if I'm fool-proofing the proper way. Basically my system is to do a game write down all the data and then watch the video if I feel like I don't understand why I got the question wrong. Then I do the next game in the book ( I am using the LG 1-20 book from powerscore) and then I cycle through the games I haven't gotten down to the 7sage recommended time and a perfect score after I finish the book. I heard someone say that you should try to get all the games down to 5 minutes when fool-proofing. I feel like this impossible unless you remember the answer. Should I spend less time in between re-doing games? Like should I do the game a few hours after or the next day? It usually takes me 4 or 5 days to get through all the LG in the book which basically means I am slowly fool-proofing them all at once. Should I master a set of 10 or so, fool-proof them and then move onto the next chunk? Or is the way I'm doing it OK? As always trying to be the most efficient with my limited study time.

On a recent PT I had -8 within the first 10 questions on the first LR section.

Otherwise, I scored 15 on the LR section. I could have gotten 23.

I am not sure if this is due to my anxiety or what...

Aren't the first 10 questions in a LR section generally on the easier side in comparison to mid/end of the section.

I really need at least a 161 on the December test.

HELP!

Hey everyone! Up until this past week I have been consistently practicing between 18-20 correct on RC... this past week I did two recent tests PT74 and PT75 and really struggled.. In both cases I had about 6 or 7 questions that I had time to attempt and was unable to decide between two answers... Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can improve on this? Main point questions seem to be one of the questions I consistently find myself narrowing down to two answers, unable to distinguish the correct from the incorrect. If I am getting down to two answers and can't decide, is it because I am going too quickly and don't understand the passage?

Any suggestions would be great!

Hey I was wondering if I could get some help making the logic game videos play. When I try to open them it says it can't play them.

With limited time, I am wondering how to get the most out of the LG games. I know many others on here who are working towards improving games. With the time that we have left, what do you guys recommend while obviously balancing other sections as well? Hence, I cannot dedicate all my time from now to the December exam but I would like to improve my games. I have seen a slow improvement by foolproofing the CC problem set games but as of right now, should I start with PT 45-60? Or?

I'm taking the December exam. My last PT was a 172 with -2 on every section (PT 78). This is pretty representative of what I do on individual practice sections and on PTs lately, with the exception of games, which is generally -0/-1. What should I focus on in these last few weeks? What do I do to refine? Obviously shooting for a 180 ;)

With about two weeks left until the test, I am wondering how many PTs I should take and what to focus on.

I've been studying for a year and have taken 27 PTs total with an average of 170.5 on on PT65 to 75. My goal has been 175 on PTs so that I can be pretty sure I get 170+ on the test, but I am cognizant that that might not happen. LR and RC fluctuate from -1 to -5 and LG is mostly perfect.

I have PT 76 through 82 left. How many do you all think I should do?

I am curious about the experiences of people who did a lot of PTs before the test and those that did few.

I am worried about burn out but my energy levels have been good and I am mostly enjoying studying at this point.

I am also BRing thoroughly with clean copies.

I feel like I have a solid grasp on CC -- I lose points on details, inattention, and bad timing. I feel that most of my issues are strategic, which is why I feel I should be still taking tests in the first place.

Anyone in a similar boat?

With just over two weeks until December 2, I've found that my scores have been decreasing. I'm not sure if it's anxiety, burnout, or just being crazy busy at work, but something isn't happening for me here.

I intend to take the test to see how I do, but am now becoming more open to the possibility of waiting until next cycle, retaking, and applying earlier with a higher score. It's just that I really don't want to be in my current job for much longer, and the thought of waiting another YEAR makes me so disappointed and sad. :(

Any recommendations for the final stretch?

This question absolutly sucked, anyone wanna take a crack at it?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-23/

I swear no matter how fast I go I cannot finish an entire RC section. I have no problem finishing LR and LG. But for some reason I can’t get through this section in 35 minutes. I usually have 5 minutes remaining with an entire passage left.

What have you guys done to speed up RC without making a bunch of silly mistakes.

Was wondering if there is a difference between a question asking for the overall conclusion of an argument vs main conclusion vs summarizes the main point ?

Iv noted that some AC summarize the MP, and some will literally restate the sentence that has the MC,

Thoughts?

'even without' does not seem to follow our group 3 indicator rules....

Ella can pass even without giving her presentation

Using Group 3 rules I came up with /pass --> give ppt

but that doesn't make any sense....what the sentence is really trying to say is not ( pass ---> ppt ) which amounts to pass and /ppt

very diff to mechanically following group 3 rules....

thinking harder about this and it doesn't matter whether it is without or even without group 3 logic doesn't hold nonetheless...

am i missing something here??

With the CC almost done and the LSAT in December, what is the best thing to work on to improve my score?

What info do you guys need from me to best answer my question?

I've been averaging I'd say 160 on PTs, around 165 as of now for BR?

Thanks

I have a meeting with my letter of rec writer tomorrow and I'm wondering what I need to bring re the insurrections on LSAC. Is there a form she needs to fill out?

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have a method for memorizing Valid Args? I know #1-#6, But I’m struggling with #7-#9. Feel free to share. Open to suggestions. Thanks!