Can someone please explain the difference, if any, between pure sequencing and linear or ordering games?

I confidently chose D but after seeing that E is the correct answer, I can somewhat understand why. My issue is with trying to explain why D is wrong. I took D to mean that the fed gov's expenditures (i.e. allocations) for soil conversation in various states were inequitable. I thought this was main point based on the last sentence.

E's wording was too strong for me to choose it over D. I suppose the argument is actually saying that the fed gov just isn't spending enough money on soil conservation period.. primarily the author takes issue with the amount spent on nationwide conservation program. The author's not concerned with some states getting more conservation money than others, they're just upset that Florida gets $100,000 for soil conservation while the nat'l programs only get $50,000 for instance.. right?

Can anyone provide their thoughts or reasoning?

Hey all,

I've already read Powerscore's LR Bible and the LR section from LSAT Trainer. Should I still go over the entirety of CC? I feel like a lot of it overlaps.

If I shouldn't, any ways on how to be strategic on how to utilize CC - given I've already gone over LR bible and LSAT trainer?

CC is a ton of material - i'm just trying to be the most efficient and effective with my time and studying.

Currently getting around -8 wrong in LR per test - kinda scattered throughout question types but I see I've been struggling with harder questions (difficulty level 4/5), weaken/strengthen Q's, some SA questions.

Many thanks.

Hi,

I've noticed that 7sage doesn't have the solved paper Preptest C Feb 2000.

I also saw that a possible BR took place in one of the Study Groups.

I was wondering if someone wants to review RC from PT C together, if there is any place online with explanations, or any resources that could be helpful.

These games usually kill my time. Do you guys usually hit the questions after diagramming the rules (assuming you're good at interpreting the chains) or do you all make multiple worlds?

Does anyone have experience with whether schools decide quickly after the February LSAT? The schools I applied to were waiting on my score. Should I assume they've already generally made up their mind, pending my LSAT (I did well) and I'll hear relatively quickly or that they didn't start reviewing it until they got it and I should wait 4-6 weeks?

Thanks!

Any heavy reverse splitters out there? I have a 3.98 undergrade with a 150 lsat. Missed my mark by about 3-5 points.

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I don't get how both these answers are saying different things. I think they are both NA, but apparently the first answer is not a NA.

How is the first answer not NA? And is there a difference between these two answers in what they are saying?

Could anyone confirm that it will not show up on your record even if you withdraw more than once? I withdrew from the September LSAT, and am registered for the February LSAT, but not scoring where I need to be.

Thanks!

I am having some real difficulty with parallel questions. Could anyone explain how to do these in their own words? How do you guys attack them?

Any advice on how to get better at LR 4/5 star difficulty Q's? I'm like -7 for LR (both sections) and almost all of the 7 wrong are all level 4/5 questions. The 7 wrong are also kinda scattered throughout question types.

I find that many of them I can't get right in blind review, and it also sometimes takes me a LONG time just to process and think through it -- even after reading an answer explanation or watching the video explanation.

How can I expect or get to a point where I can get to -0 or -1 in LR and get these 4/5 difficulty questions with speed and confidence?

PT 1 - 4 - 21 MBT

I have a question regarding about conditional logic.

I was able to make the conditional statement from the stimulus as to [ no Laws ----> no Crimes]. Then the contrapositive of this should be Crime -------> Laws.

A. Laws ---> Crime

B. no crimes -------> no laws

C. many laws --------> many crimes

D. some crimes -------> some laws

E. many crimes --------> many laws.

I looked at the answer choices and eliminated A, B, and C for the reasons that they are not satisfying the sufficient condition of the "Crime" (for the contrapositive of original satement). Then, I looked at the answer choice D and saw it as a contender, but I saw E had the same meaning with the indicatior "many."

I am so confused now since I believed that some and many have the equal meaning in conditional logic. (some/many = 0 - 50)

Perhaps I made a mistake in making the conditional statement from the stimulus and made a wrong reason to pick the answer choice D.

I will appreciate any help!

Thank you!

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As you can probably tell from my tone, i’m extremely frustrated with the logic games section. I’ve been practing for 7 months now and have seen very little improvement. I’m taking around 13:30-14:30 minutes to finsih an AVERAGE level game. I’ve read through the LG Bible once, and i’ve gone back and reread several of the chapters at least twice now. I’ve been doing the foolproof method for 3 months, and my timing has barely decreased on new games. My study schedule is as follows: Monday (basic linear), Tuesday (advanced linear), and Wedneaday (grouping). Each one of these days I do one new game 6 times and then do it once more the next day. After doing it several times, I see things like inferences I didn’t the first time and end up completely understanding the game (and therefore my time decreases each tome I do it). I’ve learned that a lot of games can basically be solved up front by realizing how key, limited infernces can limit the number of possible boards, etc; this helps my timing a lot when i’m able to do it. However, i’m still not seeing the progress I need. I need a solid 162 for my top school. I’m almost where I need to be on LR and RC, but i’m just not improving on LG. I would absolutely hate for this section to keep me from my goal.

Hey everyone. I just finished the Strengthening Questions section in the CC and have a burning question: how often does "some" indicate an incorrect answer choice? Is it a word that can be attributed to a general rule (i.e. "Whenever y'all see 'some', it ain't right.")?

I don't get why answer choices D could be true. Are you not supposed to consider the contrapositives of the answer choices or of what's in the stimulus? I would think in this question you especially would want to consider the contrapositives since the last sentence calls for you to contrapose the entire stim to match with /ID. I thought that the explanation JY gave to A) would be applicable to D) as well.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-1-question-20/

Stimulus:

EW → PC

EW→UR→ID

Contra: /ID →/UR→/EW

/PC→/EW

Answer choices:

D) /EW→PC. contra: /PC→EW. Not sure how it is that this CBT. In the stim, /PC --> /EW.

How can it be consistent to say that when prices aren’t constant, the economy is both weak and not weak o.O

Is it that, as long as either the contrapositive or original statement in the answer choice could be true, then the answer choice could be true? The original statement in D) could be true...

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i left the test feeling confident about scoring around my PT average ... give or take a few. [most likely “take a few”, but still]

with each passing day, especially these days nearing score release, i’m getting more and more sure that i got a 120.

Hi 7sagers,

I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this. So for the first PT I ever did I got -2 on RC, it was the first one on 7sage (Just to get a sense of where I was starting). I didn't diagram anything, didn't make any notes. I was just able to read it really fast and go back and look at the passage for the answers without hurting my time. I was really happy obviously and thought maybe my background as an English major had helped out or I was just naturally good at RC. Then two months later, post-core curriculum, I go to take a PT on paper instead of electronically, and I get -11. The passages were albeit harder but I had the same level of confidence that I had when I first took it. Ever since then, I've been getting similar scores when I do RC and can't comprehend (no pun intended) why I did so well on the first one. I'm used to reading everything online and hardly ever read physical texts, could that be the reason or did I just get really lucky, or... I don't know but now I feel like I'm back to square one with RC.

I'm wondering if anyone has had any discrepancies in taking the LSAT electronically versus physically or any RC inconsistencies like this because in LR and LG, I am always within range of what I got previously, minus 1 or two.

Thanks,

L

Hello 7sagers,

If a question in LG asks, "Which one of the following Could Be False?"

Can a choice that is Must Be False be correct?

Similarly, if a question in LG asks, "Which of the following Could Be True?"

Can a choice that is Must Be True be correct?

Thanks very much in advance!

I am currently 80% done with the Core Curriculum! I have done all of the practice sets and feel very strongly as of now. For the Logic Games, I have played each game 1-3 times and having shorthand fool proofed and watched explanations when needed.

Should I seriously Fool Proof then head into RC or finish CC then revisit Logic?

Testing in June with the Ultimate Package. I am very anxious to start PTing already, but any suggestions for mapping out the remaining 3 months or so to use my time/resources wisely?

I'm new here, but have been studying for awhile, and am looking for another person to trade messages with as we go through the CC and then post-CC. I also want to talk about our schedules. Thanks for considering this. I appreciate it.

Hello 7sagers!

This might be a dumb question but I can't find the notorious "LG Bundle". I looked on Cambridge and it wasn't there, and apparently 7sage had it at one point? I'm not sure. The latest PT's I can find are 19-28 on amazon. If that's the case, should I just start foolproofing from there?

I have 29-81, and I've been foolproofing the 29-38 so far. But since I'm in post-core curriculum now, I've started to do my PT's, and I havn't been able to properly PT the LG section because I've been using them for foolproofing instead of for a score, which I know the PT's aren't for a score but for practice. For example, I do timed sections of LR and RC but when it comes to LG, I havn't been timing them because I'm not confident enough yet, so I just end up foolproofing the games on a separate day. Still, I'm wondering how others are doing their practice PT's and how they are doing or did the LG's when they got to that section.

Thanks, again for all your help guys :)

I was wondering what the most effective method would be to foolproof logic games 1 - 35. For those of you who have done all the games from 1 - 35, would you recommend doing them in order or by game type? Ex., should i do 4 games from PT 1 each day in that order until i reach PT 35, or should they be done differently?

Also, if i wanted to foolproof games 36 - 60 instead of games 1 - 35, would that be just as effective?

Thanks again for any feedback, i appreciate it. :)

Hi everyone. Like everyone I'm sure, I miss a lot more questions when I'm trying to focus on speed. Often when I slow down, or during the blind review, I can get a lot more questions correct that I previously didn't know or answered incorrectly. So I'm looking for advice on how everyone else is improving their speed while retaining accuracy.

One thing I've thought about is when I find the correct answer moving on immediately without reading the remaining. I haven't started doing it though because it seems counter-intuitive to everything I've ever learned about test taking.

Thanks!

Hi everyone, question on how to approach this question. The question gives two arguments, Jane's and Maurice's. The question stem states, "Which one of the following, if true, most strengthens Jane's argument?" So after reading this question stem we know it's about Jane's argument, and her argument is the first one. So my question, is it even necessary to read Maurice's argument?

Time is my biggest issue so being able to cut out that information and time spent on reading it could help.

What's everyone's thoughts? Thanks.

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https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/invest-in-the-stock-market-mbt-question/?ss_completed_lesson=1089

most people invest without doing any research of their own

Intuitively I would want to lawgic it out like people who invest -m--> /do research, but then I was like wait no the sufficient condition should be negated since it's group 3.

How do you know when to ignore certain indicators? Do you just treat the two ideas like they are separate when there is a "most" statement? "most" will always refer to the sufficient condition and the other idea has to be the necessary? Since without refers to the 2nd idea you just negate that one.

I didn't even bother lawgicing it out because the AC was really obvious and it was an easy Q but I don't want to deal w this confusion on a harder q where I actually have to lawgic it out.