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Hey All, I want to file a complaint against my proctor for my LSAT. Can you let me know if I have a valid case?

During the test, when I was taking the LG section. She called the 5 minute marker, 5 minutes earlier than it was suppose to be. After the end of the 5 min marker, she recalled her earlier statement and said that we had 5 mins again. This event seriously threw me off the test, I was not able to get pass the last LG question, which is usually my strongest section. I want to complain to LSAC, but I don't want my score to be cancelled since I still want to know how I did. I also don't want to just delay the test because I was planning on applying this semester. Please any advice will be appreciated. Thank you!

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Despite my long journey of preperation for yesterday, my neurosis is not stopping the "what if's" in my head. So I am strongly considering registering for feb, and not wasting an entire month that I could be studying while waiting for scores to release. I am applying for Fall of next year and I am wondering if anyone knows how I would go about disclosing or not disclosing my choice to take feb in my applications... Do I tell schools that I will be taking feb? Will that mean that they will not yet consider my application until feb scores release? Or do I simply send out apps with December score and approach said schools with my feb score when it releases? Not sure how this exactly works. Sorry this is so convoluted but I'm sure the 7 sage community knows what I'm trying to get at ...

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Hi Guys,

I just have a question for weakening / flaw answer choices. Although there is some over lap between the two, I know that they are distinct and I understand how to approach them differently. However, sometimes I have difficulty distinguishing the KEY difference between their answer choices. For example, if a answer choice in a weakening questions presents a flaw can that be the right answer choice? In other words, what are they key differences in their respected answer choices.

Thanks,

Nas

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Last comment sunday, dec 03 2017

Proposition Questions

Proposition questions: should I approach these like an inference question or a principle question? I've read different things. Example of this question type is PT 82 section 2 question 14.

Thanks in advance!

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Last comment saturday, dec 02 2017

Issue with referential phrasing

Hello everyone,

My latest hurdle on LR is trying to parse out the referential phrasing. Has anyone had an issue with this and compiled a list of questions to practice? Let me know! It would be the biggest help on my journey to improving my LR score!

All the best!

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Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official December 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Cruise ship trips to Manila/Osaka/Shanghai

-Musical Performances

-Metro Closures

-Apartment Cleaning

RC:

-Chinese Language

-Heroes and Multiverse

-Copywriting Comedians and Chefs

-Social Theorists about Darwinism

LR:

-Indian Spice

-Nuclear Fusion of Atoms/Heat

-T. Rex

-Tilapia Fish

-Alzheimer's Disease

-Herbal Medicines that Become Harmful

-Herniated Disks

-Dolphin Habitat

-Raising Prices by 25 Cents

-7pm and 6pm

-Fish Fingers

-Copper Tools and Canoes

-Sensing Tornadoes

-Movie Review

-Caligula

-Mayor Getting Re-Elected

-Black/White Camoflage

-Greek Character Reading Oracle's Tablet

-Disagreement About How Companies Should Go About Things

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-Rumor

-Fruits

-Voting Committees and Zoning Committees

RC:

-Protest Fiction

-Tax Alternatives

-Ice Cores

LR:

-Mosquitoes and Leaves

-Potato Insects

-Whistleblower

-Birds Feigning Injury

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

LR:

-PTSD, stress, and cortisol levels

-Planet 256

-Lake Sassafras

-Lichens

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb LSAT discussion stickied!

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Is anyone considering withdrawing? I've already withdrew once before and it sucks to eat the money but I'm just wondering if anyone else is going to withdraw from this Saturday's test.

I'm still 5+ points away from my goal score so I know it won't happen. I'm already registered for February's test so still contemplating what to do.

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Hi everyone,

I'm pretty sure the answer is I can't take the test (I was planning on canceling my score anyway) but does anyone know if there is anything that can be done about being admitted to the exam if you lose your only form of ID the night before the exam?

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Hey guys, so we are just under a week away from the December 2017 test and I know nerves are high! For many Sagers it is their first time taking the actual LSAT. There are also many Sagers who have taken the real test once, twice or even more times before. I wanted to start a thread where we could come together and ask questions and relieve some nerves before the test! Feel free to comment advice, tips, or questions so we can all help each other out and we have a useful thread to refer to!

Helpful Links;

1.) Photo requirements - https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/day-of-test/photo-requirements

2.) Day of test information (what to bring) https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/day-of-test

3.) Dates and deadlines (Including predicted score release) https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/test-dates-deadlines/2017-2018/us-canada-dec

4.) List of common questions - https://www.lsac.org/jd/help/faqs-lsat

My Advice;

Understand that the test doesn’t start right at 8:30. Depending on the size of your testing center it will probably start closer to 9-9:30. You will have a bunch of time where you sit and wait. Followed by directions.

Be weary of talking to other test takers about the LSAT. You don’t know their level of preparedness and it might get you nervous if they say something you were not expecting.

Use the bathroom before the test.

Scout out the location before you go. My test center has one bathroom, and it’s small. The line, especially for girls, is HUGE.

Bring a snack! You might be hungry by the time the break comes.

Don't try "cheat drugs" - don't overload on caffeine - go to bed early!

Try not to change your routine at all.

Stay calm, don't get into your own head.

Listen to the proctors, follow the rules. Don't be the person who bubbles after time and gets flagged!!

Please feel free to add your own advice, questions or experiences guys!

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Last comment friday, dec 01 2017

test center?

I still cannot figure out where my test center is. All it says is Rutgers New Brunswick 14411. I clicked on the web address it provided and it just sent me to rutgers.edu. Not helpful at all! Helppppppp

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Last comment friday, dec 01 2017

Causal Chain

I was reviewing Q19 from Section 1 of PT 27 answer choice A, which got me wondering about causal chains.

According to the stimulus, pollen can cause the release of histamines, and histamine cannot cause cold symptoms.

Answer A says: "Pollen and other allergens do not cause colds" and it is an incorrect answer.

Can we not link this up into a causal chain like "pollen --> histamine --> ~cold symptoms" and conclude (through the transitive property) that pollen cannot cause cold symptoms?

I know for conditional reasoning, if you have a chain like "a-->b-->~c" you can conclude "a-->~c", but is this not the case for causal reasoning?

In a similar vein, if you have a causal chain like "a causes b. b causes c", you CAN conclude that "a causes c," right?...

Thank you!

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Last comment thursday, nov 30 2017

Roadblock for LR comprehension..?

Hello everyone,

I am REALLY struggling with the level 5 difficulty Flaw questions. Even during the blind review I’m getting tripped up. I sent the question where more people got it wrong than those who got it right to a few friends of mine (one is an engineer studying for the patent bar and other is an ESL student)... They got it right on the fly... I feel like the core curriculum has shattered my intuitive side and I am not able to get it back...? Some of you might be familiar with the book by Dr. Kahnemann, “Thinking Fast and Slow”, and it talks about two systems in the way people think. One is the intuitive side that just instinctively does something and other is the slow, analytical and thorough side. I feel like I’m stuck on the side that is being “thorough”. Whenever I get to these questions, I can’t just do them “on the fly”. Can I get some perspective? Lol

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Hello! I'm in desperate need of some advice. I am scheduled to take the LSAT for the FIRST time next Monday, Dec 4th. I have been studying since July, but not studying correctly. This is how my studying has been since July:

JULY: Start reading Powerscore LR book

AUGUST: Reading Powerscore LR book

SEPTEMBER: Reading Powerscore LR book

OCTOBER: Finish Powerscore LR book, Start reading Powerscore RC book, Got Powerscore LG flashcards and reviewed almost every day, start taking LSAT prep test sections (untimed) at the end of Oct

NOVEMBER: Finish Powerscore RC book, Started reading Powerscore LG book (halfway through now), Reviewed LG flashcards every few days, Have taken maybe 10-15 practice sections so far, Took two timed full tests one week apart (scored 137 on first one and 139 on second one - did blind review for second one and the potential score was 149)

*** NOTE: I looked into tutors and courses in August and they were all incredibly expensive, but I found out about 7sage less than a week ago and I signed up for the Beginner's course thinking it might miraculously help -_-

I feel like I went about studying all wrong and did not take it as seriously as I should have. There's no way I would apply to law school with the scores I've been getting on the practice tests, so I'm wondering if I should just cancel the test on Monday and create a new study plan to take it at a later time. Or if I should just go to at least "see the beast" so that way I at least know what to expect when I take it again.

Thoughts?

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I am taking the December LSAT and from my prep work and thinking I am going to be in the 155-158 range. I am going to retake the exam in February, does anyone think it is possible to increase my score to 165?

My biggest issue is timing! I have always been a slow reader and I am finding reading comp impossible. Any suggestions on how I can improve my score if I am a slow reader?

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So, I'm taking the December LSAT (my second test) and have just seen hardly any improvement on reading comprehension. I do well on the questions but hardly ever finish in time and end up guessing on most of the final passage. Any last minute tips to speed up??

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Last comment thursday, nov 30 2017

Valid vs. Invalid Arguments

So I think i'm confused at how these are different. I completely understand the definitions of valid and invalid arguments. I'm just confused at how you would be able to distinguish these two things on the LSAT. Does the question stem typically tell you it wants "invalid" or "valid" or will you just have to make a decision based off the stimulus?

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During question #2 of Negate Quiz #4, it states that:

Every doctor in this hospital is qualified to work on combating the city’s zombie epidemic.

Wouldn’t the logical negation be “not all doctors” instead of “some doctors….are not”, the reason being that “every" implies 100%, thus a binary division would mean 0-99, which translates as "not all", whereas “some...are not” translates as 1-99. Or is it the case that since we are negating the conditional relationship, it cannot include 0, which translates to “none”, which is a universal quantifier which implies a conditional relationship. Thus, 1-99 or “some” is the correct negation because it implies inter sectional relationship only and precludes a conditional relationship.

I would truly appreciate some feedback, because I trying to address any misconceptions.

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Last comment thursday, nov 30 2017

Need Advice

So I've been studying for the LSAT for nearly two months now. Only in the past two weeks have I actually done more rigorous work to progress my studying. I've increased 10 points in the last week alone. With this being said, the reason I've studied like this is because I work 2 jobs and take 5 classes, plus extra circular activities at school (I took a week off of school and work, which financially killed me). My current average is 154, but I know if I take at least 4-6 months to dedicate all my focus towards the LSAT, I can score a 165+. So my question is, should I take the LSAT on Saturday and perform average, or take a year off and hopefully perform exceptional. It might sound like an obvious answer, but I just want to get into law school and get this shit over with. I legit no longer care about getting into Tier 1 or Tier 2 schools, I'm too fucking stressed to waste another year of my life because of an exam.

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Last comment thursday, nov 30 2017

Last minute tips for December test day

Hey guys! I was just wondering if anyone has any tips for taking the lsat or how to approach test day. Saturday will be here before we know it so I’m just trying to get all the advice I can!!

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