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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-4-question-07/

This question asks us to identify a flaw.

Attorney: I ask you to find Mr.Smith guilty of assaulting Mr.Jackson. Regrettably, there were no eyewitness to the crime but Mr.Smith has a violent character: Ms.Lopez testified earlier that Mr.Smith, shouting loudly, had threaten her. Smith never refuted this testimony.

Ms.Lopez testy smith threatening her+Smith not refuting--->Smith has violent character----> he assaults jackson.

Three obvious flaws:

1. smith didn't refute doesn't mean he indeed threat ms.lopez. 2. even if smith did, threatening ms.lopez doesn't necessarily make smith a violent character- it could be a one-time thing. 3. even if smith is violent character, it doesn't mean smith is violent all the times and thus assault mr.jackson.

Answer choices:

A. Aggressive behavior is not a sure indicator of a violent character

C. Since smith never disproved the claim that he threatened ms.lopez, he did in fact threaten her

E.Having a violent character is not necessarily associated with commission of violent crimes

All three seem reasonable to me. Which one to choose?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-3-question-25/

This question asks us to parallel argument.

J presents a either or situation in which both outcomes are undesirable. T in turn shows J that if customers are environmental responsible, that no business' market share will decrease thus making first option more desirable.

I can see why A is the correct answer: J again presents either or situation both with terrible outcomes and T provides an condition that makes one of them better. What I would like to clarify is why B is incorrect. Is it because T provides solutions that incorporates both options?

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Hello anybody,

I just recently started studying for R.C. In LR, I found "identifying" question stems extremely helpful. It helped me tunnel mind for what I was looking for thus allowing me to eliminate incorrect answer choices more quickly. I am wondering if doing this is possible for R.C.? Are there groups of words that are sufficient for identifying all the different types of questions in the R.C. section? Thanks in advance for any future input.

Jake

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-1-question-20/

This question asks which of following answer choice will strength the conclusion EXCEPT.

The conclusion is that the current map used to show where different types of garden plants will flourish is more useful than the older map.

b is irrelevant because modern station can be over 60 years old as long as the data gathered from them are not 60-year-old!

However I cannot see how does D supports the conclusion? It is assuming the more and better weather data you have, the more likely you can get accurate weather pattern to predict the growth patterns?

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Okay i'm not really sure what to title my concern but unlike LG which I can do a few times and understand 100% wth I was doing wrong, I am having trouble doing something like that for LR.

When I go over the right answers by watching the video for the PT I can see what I did wrong. I try to "redo" the question by trying to convince myself why the wrong answers are wrong.

However I'm still making like 5-10 mistakes in LR per PT.

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This is a pseudo-sufficient assumption question.

P:All leaders in major parities oppose the bill

C:The bill will most likely fail to pass.

Target answer to connect no support with fail to pass.

Answer Choice Analysis:

A. Most bills that have not been supported by even one leader of a major party have not been passed into law

E. Most bills that have been passed into law are supported by at least one leader of a major party.

Isn't E the contrapositive of A?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-30-section-2-question-21/

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This game was terribly difficult for me, but after spending quite a bit of time thinking about it, I think I've figured out what surely has to be the best way to set this game up. The game seems confusing because it pretends to have 5 game pieces (the five cities) which are connected to each other. The epiphany I had was that those really aren't the game pieces: the CONNECTIONS between the cities are the game pieces, and it's really just a 9 piece in-out game. The 9 pieces are the 9 unique permutations of the 5 cities' connections. Boo-ya! -Do people still say that?

Anyway, I wondered if anyone else had thoughts on this game, or if there is a reason why this set up/approach to the game isn't the absolute best.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-2-game-3/

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So I understand that logic games now are on two pages to give more room to write out diagrams. This is great. How are you guys incorporating it into your practice though, just an extra sheet of paper? Also if they are two pages do you know if they are always on pages facing each other, so you can see both when the test book is open? Or is it possible that I'll have to flip pages to get from the first page to the second?

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Can someone explain what role "even if" plays in (D)?

I was able to eliminate all of them except (D) so I picked it. Turns out, I got lucky.

I tried to make even if a sufficient condition so "even if" it fails, the necessary could still happen. However, is this correct way of thinking about it? Or is even if similar to only if?

On a side note I only got one wrong on PT 51 S1 :D

Not sure if this LR section was easier or if I got better :P

Edit: can we also go over Q16? I had trouble doing the diagram for it but managed to get it right.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-51-section-1-question-21/

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An artwork cannot express an emotion that the artwork's creator is incapable of experiencing.

How to translate this sentence into logical condition?

If artwork's creator incapable of experiencing, then artwork cannot express an emotion.

Am I right?

Which word is the logical indicator in this sentence?

I thought cannot is the indicator means group 2. Am I right?

Many thanks!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-51-section-3-question-19/

You can look at the stimulus in this link.

I believe Jon's explanation for B is wrong because an editor may modernize spelling without providing an explanation, for instance, if similar modernizing has been done in more than one quotation, then you can modernize them just inserting a general statement in the preface.

I know why D is right, but still don't know why B is wrong.

Can anyone help me clarify it?

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Hi,

I've currently only taken 2 PT's (50, June 2007). I purchased some LSAT question bundles from cambridge lsat and drilled a bunch of LG and RC from tests 1-38. After each topic JY taught, I would spend about 2-3 hours doing drills from those packets.

I'm thinking of taking every other 50s test and then doing each 60-68 test.

Is this a good plan?

On PT 50 I screwed up hard on LR but after calming down my nerves and "retaking" the LR section I improved substantially. I have heaps to go though before I can say I am confident in my abilities to score 0 wrong (or as few wrong as possible). I did okay on the other sections but as mentioned in another post I ran out of time on the RC but got one wrong while missing two on LG because I didn't read my own inference chart properly...

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If you already have access to the full course:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/logic-games-habits-for-speed-and-accuracy/

Otherwise, I'm reproducing the contents of that lesson here. What good habits do you cultivate for LG?

Good habits:

-Tick off rules as you translate them into our visual language.

-Write out rules neatly, close to each other.

-Combine rules with overlapping items.

-Every time you encounter a new rule, think about how it interacts with the game items, the board, and the previous rules.

-Reduce visual clutter.

-Try to split the main game-board into sub-game-boards.

-Remember to check for floaters.

When stuck:

-Sufficient failed, rule irrelevant.

-Necessary satisfied, rule irrelevant.

-Pare down and rewrite your rules that still remain.

-Take stock of what items are left.

-Count the number of items left against number of slots left.

-Close out groups when they are full.

Stop the explanation video after the game-board setup. Try to solve the questions yourself.

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For this question here:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-21/

My question:

If E is right, it didn't resolve this discrepancy. Because E implies "if all and only those who ate a particular seafood dish at the restaurant contracted the illness", which only prove that contaminated dish caused the illness. But what official believe is that "contaminated seafood caused the cases of illness". "seafood" and "dish" is not a same thing.

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We all know what AP and MP questions are, but I have ran into many harder AP and MP questions where the stimuli does not actually explicitly state the conclusion, making it difficult to label the different roles each sentences play. The conclusion in these questions are instead implied by the structure of the argument. Since I have ran into several questions like this, I have reasons to believe that this is a recurring theme on harder AP questions that we should be familiar with. However, this is only a hypothesis based on my experience, so I am here to ask all of you to pay attention to this type of questions and post it on this thread to confirm or reject this hypothesis.

Here are two questions that I have so far.

Preptest 28 Sec 3 # 14

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-14/

The conclusion here is that citizens in a democratic country should not neglect to vote.

Preptest 50 Sec 2 # 19

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-50-section-2-question-19/

The conclusion here seems to be that one should not go too far in limiting one's fat intake.

In either case the conclusion is not mentioned in the stimuli.

What are your opinions' on this?

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Hi all! I'm new to the forum although I have been using the LG videos which I've found very helpful - thank you for providing this free resource!

I'm curious, does anyone read the questions first before reading the passage? I used to do this on the SAT (baaack in the day) and found it helpful.

Any other good RC prep tips? I haven't really concentrated on this section in my studying.

Thanks!!

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Stimulus:

New Age philosopher: nature evolves organically and nonlinearly...

Flaw question.

I am down to B and E

B: overlooks the possibility that the overall structure of a phenomenon is not always identical to the overall structure of the reasoning that people do about that phenomenon.

I don't know why B is wrong. It seems to me that in the stimulus philosopher claim that the overall structure of a phenomenon (Nature) is organic, holistic, nonlinear. And also philosopher recommend we use the identical overall structure of the reasoning(organic, holistic, nonlinear) to understand that phenomenon, which is exactly what B says.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-49-section-2-question-18/

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I noticed that some games are very easy to diagram. However, I am always unsure on how many sketches I should make. In order to save time, is there a general method for knowing when to draw multiple diagrams vs. using only one?

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Some classes of animal are so successful that they spread into virtually every ecosystem...

Answer: the argument is flaw because "what is true of a whole is also true of its constituent elements"

However, It seems to me that the argument is quite valid. All insects are so successful and ants are the most successful among insects, we can conclude that ants are also successful, which means is not a threatened species. I can't find "whole" "part" flaw here. Anyone help me ?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-17/

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I don't know if anyone has this problem and I know the obvious answer to this question would be to just slow down and take more time but I was wondering if anyone finds themselves repeatedly mis-recording rules - messing up something very simple - such as replacing one variable letter with another. I am finding I don't miss infrences as much as I make a dumb mistake such as mis-recording a rule under timed conditions. It is problem, i believe, directly related to trying to get down the rules as fast as possible in order to give myself the most amount of time on the game. However, one slip in the smallest detail while recording the rules can destroy your timing if you have to go back once its been noticed (which is almost always the case, lol). If anyone has had this problem and had any specfic drill, exercies, w/e, that they used to over come it, I would be more than willing to hear them out about it.

Thanks

Jake.

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