I'm extremely comfortable with the LR sections, and on average with my current methods I'm getting around -3 per section. What are some uncommon, or otherwise hyperanalytical methods to improve to -2 or less consistently?

Hi all,

I recently answered a question (PrepTest 112 - Section 3 - Question 26) during a drill that confused me. In short, there was an argument about a fifth force (as opposed to the traditional four) existing within scientific models of the universe. My confusion results from the question's phrasing: "which of the following, if true, most strengthens the argument that there is a 5th force?"

I found this phrasing confusing, as it is not clear to me which argument it is referring to. Is this asking for the answer choice which most strengthens the idea that there is a fifth force? Or, more specifically, is the question asking to identify the answer choice which most strengthens the argument provided in the stimulus which concludes there is a fifth force?

These two possible arguments referred to by the question are quite similar. They have identical inclusions, and one includes the other. And, through process of elimination, I arrived at the correct answer. But I am concerned about questions of this nature appearing again. How do you interpret this? Is it clear to you?

All opinions are invited and appreciated!

Thank you

I can get the easier WSE questions right, and the occasional 4/5 star difficulty questions right, but I have yet to get 5/5 on a hard difficulty WSE drill. I am getting frustrated. Does anyone have any advice on how to approach these questions? I feel like the method to the madness here is vague and therefore much harder to nail down.

I am retaking after getting a 165 on the Oct. test, and I am anxious about difficult LR sections. A predictions video online said that they are adding more formal conditional logic and questions about numbers. Does anyone know of any sections that have more questions like this? I felt like the October test was much more difficult than PTs but it could have also been my anxiety.

I just got a question wrong because I was confused about bi-conditionals so I just want to clarify

If A(----) B, that does NOT mean that B(---)A, right?

The contrapositive of a bi-conditional in the form A(-----)B is /A(----)/B

Is this right?

A trend I'm noticing on my recent practice tests (in the last 2 months) is that most of the LR questions I miss have the Causal Reasoning tag. I've been working my butt off to try and improve on this type but for the life of me I can't seem to get any better. I've reread the Loophole's chapter on CausR, the PS Bibles, gone through the 7sage lessons, and have been drilling 5* causal reasoning questions multiple times a day with thorough reviews of the answers and yet I keep missing these questions when it comes to a practice test.

Has anyone been in a similar situation or have any advice to offer?

This is causing me a headache.

Hello, I wanted any suggestions about stuff to read outside of LSAT material that is similar to RC so I can get my brain used to that sort of reading. Any suggestions of books, news outlets, etc? The economist is one I hear but now its a steep price to pay so am looking for something cheap! Thanks

I am looking for someone who has completed the RC HERO course and wanting to work on some passages together. Let me know if you are interested.

Hi everyone,

I’ve finished the 7Sage curriculum and just read The Loophole. I’m wondering if anyone who has read The Loophole would be interested in working on some questions together. I’d like to practice using the Party Trick and the Powerful/Provable Primers. Let me know!

Can someone please explain when the answer to a LR question would be 'X is considering too small of a sample size'? I feel like these are never the answer yet are valid ways to weaken the argument.

Thanks!

Just took my first LSAT in November and was very disappointed with my score, feeling like it didn't represent my abilities on this test. My PT average leading up to the test was a 166-167, and I scored a 166 on PT158 (under normal test day conditions) just 2 days prior to taking the LSAT. I ended up scoring a 158 on the real exam.

I will need to be a super splitter candidate to get into the law schools I want to due to a lower (but upward trending) GPA, and need a 170+ score. I'm willing to spend however long it takes to reach that point.

So do you think I should cancel my score as it was a whole 8-9 points under my PT average, or should I keep it?

I would appreciate any feedback!

I am having trouble with MBT questions. This should not be that difficult, but I do not see how the correct answer comes into fruition from the stimulus. Can someone please help.

I'm absolutely over the moon!!! From 151 in September to 162 now, I'm so proud of myself!!

So thrilled with the results I was able to get. Previous administrations I just screwed around, didn't really have any structure, and while I got good results, I knew I could do better.

The syllabus really gave me comfort in the logic underlying the test and the analytics 7Sage offers are so much deeper than everything else I've tried. By the end I was actually loving drilling sections every morning, I am going to miss it. Not going to miss waiting for results though.

Thank you 7Sage!

153 on Nov which is just so irritating because my nerves from RC not going well largely influenced my later sections which were real and my timing just sucked. Also had personal matters occur the day before and despite trying to shake it off, I think my mind was elsewhere. Nov score is 3 points lower than Oct (156) which also was a bad test day because I was impacted by hurricane and I took the retest after no studying for 2 weeks bc no power and being stuck. Aug was 155 and I was happy thinking it was a good starting point and was how I had been PTing. Now with a score decrease I am just so angry because I know I can do better and underperforming is just my issue. I have mental blocks when I start to feel stuck and it leads me to rereading and timing just being so bad. I think I need to change my approach but don't know how? I have the loophole book and will probably look over the curriculum for conditional and grammar maybe? I am also just curious if it is truly possible to have a significant change if I am also getting a job since my gap months of studying are now just not proving efficient and I need to occupy my resume for admissions. All this to ask if it is worth retaking if I do not improve that much but I just have a gut feeling to retake since I feel my potential is better than all the scores I have, and it's just mentality on test day causing me issues. I'm also all over the place with PT's being high 150s and then sometimes 160s so also curious if there is a just not a "click" in studying yet (largely depends on LR score and question variety most of the time, RC is pretty consistent). if you read all this, thank u for letting me rant and also would appreciate advice. I just want a 160 at this point.

I just received my November LSAT score and only improved 1 point from my last test in August 2023. I don’t really understand how because I have studied more than ever in my life and was doing over 6 points better on my practice tests. This is now my third time taking it with my scores barely improving. I took it June 2023 and got a 157, August 2023 158 and now November 2024 159. Since I’ve taken it 3 times with little improvement should I cancel my score or leave it? I fear it may look bad on my applications. I truly thought I would improve more if I retook it and now I’m at a loss.

Hey guys, I'm looking for the spiciest LR sections from newer PTs. Any recommendations?

Can someone please help me with sufficient assumption questions. I’m really struggling with them.

Are MBT common on the exam? I hate them. Cant map them out to save my life.

I seem to be repeating the same mistakes over and over. Like when I blind review, I can get what I did wrong and what I should have done etc, but I make the same mistakes over and over. Not sure how I even solve this….Another issue is I’m down to 2 answers and end up picking the wrong one each time… any suggestions on these two specific problems? My biggest weakness is conditional reading which I have been consistently drilling but always get 2 wrong out of 5.

Someone help me with Most Strongly Supported pleaseee I always get these wrong.

I know we're supposed to use the negation test to confirm the right answer for a necessary assumption question but....

If we negate trap answers -- aka sufficient assumption answer choices -- doesn't it still pass the test?

Example:

"Because we locked the door, no one can break into our house."

necessary assumption: one cannot break into the house going through the chimney.

sufficient assumption: the door is the only way in and out of the house, and the lock is impenetrable.

negate the necessary: one can break into the house going through the chimney (great, this wrecks the argument and passes the negation test!)

negate the sufficient: the door isn't the only way in and out of the house, and the lock is penetrable (great? this also wrecks the argument and passes the negation test...)

So... how can I reliably use the negation test as a tool for confirming a necessary assumption, and NOT a sufficient one?

I'm curious if anyone has any advice for mid career professionals considering applying to law school.

particularly does anyone have a sense of how admissions offices consider those who haven't been in school for awhile? how they might view work experience compared with past academics?

I'm trying to get an idea how much my mediocre undergrad GPA of 3.0 would be weighed vs my 15 or so years of professional work experience.

any insights are welcome and appreciated

Hey everyone,

Selfishly interested in seeing if anyone who scored below the median on their first test has any inspiring stories to share 😅

My October score was 149 — way below what I was hoping for —and feeling especially discouraged since the November LSAT felt equally, if not more, challenging. Taking it again in January.

Anyone else in a similar spot?

Hello,

I get 6-7 questions wrong on each section. In the LR section, it is pretty much one of each type. I know my weakness mostly is the NA questions, but I still get 1-2 of them wrong, how do I get better? I have been consistently drilling but no results.