Just started RC for like a month. Realize that most of questions I got wrong are either because I think too much or think too little (ignore some details which are stupidly obvious). Also struggling with time… Too much time wasted on reading and overthinking… I am not a good reader. The only books I ve read in my life are textbooks… Did my best to follow what JY suggested but got -14 on the Feb 1997 PT and scored 155. Feel crashed… I mean at least I need get over 160… A lot of people say I just need to practice more. But seriously, can practice actually make you better (not even perfect) on RC?
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What I put; A irrelevance to argument.
Wrong bc.
The conclusion itself is that selfishness is true of all time periods. This is the argument, it is not irrelevant to the argument. It is just argued poorly.
The correct anser is E.
The argument uses selfishness in two ways.
At first, characterizes selfishness as individualism.
Them, says that acts on behalf of the human species are selfish.
Acting on behalf of the human species may be selfish, but it is not individualistic.
The argument that all periods, not just the 80s, can be characterized by selfish individualism, is not advanced by saying acts on behaf of humankind r selfish
Hi, I'll be taking the August test and I wanted to know if anyone had any tips on timing for LR and problem solving. My goal score is a 170-175 and I'm finding myself stuck on certain question types. I'm currently scoring in the mid 160s and have majority of my wrong answers in LR. Thanks!
Just broke 170 on a PT (174 BR), with -0 in LR and RC. -10 or something in LG.
I very consistently get to the last game with about 5 minutes remaining, which just isn't enough.
I think I lose a lot of time on must be true/must be false questions where the answer isn't immediately obvious just by looking, bc I have to go through each answer, making inferences based on its condition, eliminating it, and repeating the process with the next one.
Question explanations aren't very helpful because, given enough time, I can get the correct answer to basically any LG question--the issue is just timing.
I feel like there's either some technique or strategy I'm missing, or I just need to practice lots more and build up an intuition that will help me move through them quickly?
I'd love to hear input from people in a similar boat as me: high diagnostic test (-2 and -3 on RC/LR) with bombed LG, then rapid improvement on LG but still struggling with time. Does it get better?
Is there a difference between MP and MC questions? To my understanding, MP applies to arguments. Are you supposed to approach them differently ?
Thank you in advance :)
If anyone feels dejected by their current slow pace at LG, I am here to tell you it will get better. Below, I share how I went from -8 to -0 in three months on my LG section, which will hopefully inspire/help you out.
The Beginning: Before I get into the specifics, I think it's important to address the mental shift I went through a couple weeks after my diagnostic. After missing 8 questions on my first PT, I thought that correctly answering 23 questions in 35 minutes was simply impossible. But then I showed the problems to my partner, and he whizzed through the games. I was gob smacked, impressed, and proud! I was also, admittedly, insecure about my own lack of skill.
My first mistake was comparing my weakness to someone else's strength. In the back of my head, I thought things like "How will I ever do well in law school if these dumb puzzles are giving me so much grief?" The LSAT made me feel like I lacked this shiny quality of intelligence that someone could only be born with. Studying felt like a waste of time. Every missed question felt like a thorn in my foot. So, for a couple of weeks, I danced around the topics I was worst at, focusing on areas of less priority. Obviously, this method wasn't yielding any results, and I felt frustrated with my lack of progress.
But then I read a post on Reddit that changed my entire approach. It said that improving your score requires ignoring your sense of pride and/or shame. I cannot overemphasize how important it was to hear someone telling me to get my head out of my ass. If you're in the same place of insecurity that I was, I'm here to tell you to snap the heck out of it. You. Can. Do. It. The LSAT is a SKILL that can be sharpened, not a measure of innate talent or intelligence that some people either have or don't have. Do. Not. Give. Up. Improvement took me three months, but there is no shame in it taking longer than that! The LSAT isn't going anywhere. Quit taking it personally. Buckle down and focus on what you're bad at.
Here's how I did it:
April - May: After realizing that I was being silly, I bought the Logic Games Powerscore Bible, which was helpful, but not perfect. It definitely familiarized me with all the different types of games and provided a LOT of drills and explanations that improved my accuracy, but I was NOT fast enough. If I were recommending it to someone, I would say that it was probably a good place to start. However, I probably gained the most improvement from listening to multiple test-prep sites explain games in different ways and picking the methods that worked best for me. After about four weeks of going through PowerScore and using a lot of its drills, I took another practice test and got -4 because I ran out of time and had to guess on a handful.
June: I had to take a break from studying for a few weeks for personal reasons, but I came back around June 20th.
Late June - July: When I took my first PT after returning, I was SOO rusty. After a few days of doing more LG drills from Powerscore again, though, I noticed my skills returning to their previous level. However, I was consistently still running out of time on the LG section. So, I drilled at least 2 hours a day for a week using Khan Academy because I thought maybe a different platform would be beneficial, but it didn't seem to be helping too much. I was STILL averaging -3/-4 on each LG section.
July: That's when I sought out 7sage. I felt like I needed a COMPLETELY different approach to the LG than what the Powerscore Bible had given me. If you also used that book, you'll know it told you to write down Not Laws when possible. Because I had gotten 15/23 on my diagnostic test, I assumed that I had to follow the Powerscore Bible religiously (pun intended) and hadn't even considered deviating from its instructions.
However, I feel like writing Not Laws slowed me down considerably. For some reason, JY giving me permission in one of the first LG videos to NOT write the Not Laws was exactly what I needed. After a week on 7Sage and giving up on my Not Law notations, I've noticed serious speed improvement and achieved my first perfect LG section yesterday!!
Final takeaways? As you can see, progress isn't always linear or predictable. Try multiple platforms and see what explanations work best for you, combining them if you want. Be kind to yourself at the beginning. You're learning a new skill, not testing an innate quality. And lastly, practice practice practice. Don't shy away from the difficult stuff if you want to actually improve.
Hi 7sagers!
I browsed all RC courses but I found that there's no specific video teaching what we should be aware while reading comparative passages.
And I also searched the Forum but didn't find any post concerning this question.
Does anyone has any suggestion?
Thank you very much.
I think I reasoned my way though this as I wrote it out. Figured I’d post it in case anyone might be helped by it. Please point out any issues.
I get that every NA is an assumption the argument actually makes. Why? bc for an argument to work, the NA must be true which entails that if the argument has a NA, the argument is obviously making that assumption. But is the inverse also true? Is every assumption the argument actually makes a NA?
My understanding is that most SAs are assumptions we impose on the argument, not ones that the argument actually makes. Sometimes the assumption the argument makes happens to also be a SA. Eg
P: A
C:B
A->B is the NA as well as SA. This seems to affirm every assumption argument actually makes is a NA.
Is it wrong to think of SAs as assumptions we impose on the argument?
Are there times an argument actually makes an assumption that isn’t necessary? I guess technically there could be an assumption within a stimulus or argument that’s unrelated or irrelevant to the conclusion’s reasoning and therefore it being false wouldn’t wreck the conclusion and isn’t needed. LSAT typically doesn’t do this though.
Okay I think I figured this out. Just bc the argument assumes something doesn’t make it a NA but every NA is something the argument assumes. So to check whether a NA Q ac is wrong, ask if the arg assumes that AC. If it doesn’t then eliminate. 8/10 times if argument does assume AC, it’s the correct ac. That’s typically what I do when I’m a bit unsure on NA Qs instead of negation test. More intuitive for me.
I have been using 7sage for over a year now and ive barely taken practice tests.
Im having trouble concentrating after the first section.
Is there any way to improve or lengthen the amount of time I can study for?
I have about a month left and im not even sure how much ive improved since I cant finish a practice test.
To those who weren't good at RC in the beginning and got significantly better through practice,
I would appreciate if you could give me some advice!
I've been studying for almost 10 months now, and still scoring low in LR (not much different in RC...)
in the beginning I used to get -13 wrong and got better constantly scoring just below -10
some times I got around -5 but those sections were the ones that had 2-star difficulty...
feel like I'm spending my time and energy for nothing.
so demoralizing
I'm having so much difficulty with these types of problems (which argument is most similar to the structure of the paragraph), does anyone have any advice for these?
I've taken a few practice tests in the 70s, a few 80s, and some 60s. I don't have that much time left till september and obviously there are way more practice tests than I can do in time for the test (I'm studying while working full-time). Anyone know how I can figure out which PTs I should make sure I take before the test? I'm saving all the 90s for the month of August. Thank you!
Hi guys! I am looking for some people to study with for the August 2022 LSAT! Hoping to make some sort of groupme or group chat, and maybe have zooms or something! I am a little behind on my study schedule, but I am hoping to really pick up the pace. My goal is mid 170s, and I am currently scoring around 169-171. Also, I am on EST!!
Hello,
I am taking the test in August, and I am trying to get my scoring to be more consistent. My goal is a 172. Here are the results from my last 4 tests:
PT 63:
LR -1
LG -3
RC -3
PT 64:
LR -1
LG -0
RC -2
PT 65:
LR -4
LG -1
RC -4
PT 66
LR -1
LG -2
RC -4
My current plan is to take two full PTs a week and take one day a week to take a PT section by section spaced out. Does that seem like enough? Any tips for consistency? I feel like I can never do well in every section.
So, I'm having a bit of trouble with MBT MSS questions.
I take way too much time just comprehending the passages.
Does anyone have any tips on this?
I asked before with some help with LGs and now have perfected those! Now I am onto conquering RCs, and LRs. LR is where I think I can make some decent improvement.
Overall on my PTs I can get 163-166.
RC ranges from -4 to -7. That I am seeing a little improvement here and there.
LR can range from -4 to -7 as well.
LR I feel like I've been on a struggle bus. I work full time, so I do one PT a week, BR, and then try to review it. I also have tried to add some drilling of LRs I feel weak in. (Particularly NAs, PSAs, sometimes MSS).
One thing I have noticed is sometimes I make mistakes from reading a question stem, ac, or stimulus, and miss a VITAL Word! so sometimes I make dumb mistakes here and there....ugh
I am finding with my wrong journal-ling/BR, I know the question stems pretty well and what to do. I often just fall for traps answers as well. In particular the last 5 questions of the section usually beat me up.
I kinda also feel like drilling has made me worse?
Anyways, any advice or tips would be helpful! Is it dumb to drop LR drilling, and just review my wrong journal?
Any tips of how to review wrong journal better?
JY often "plays" with the rules in a LG before he does the questions. Do you all recommend doing this even on timed tests? If so, do you do so in your mind's eye, or actually on paper?
I usually play with the rules in difficult games when I'm doing BR, but not on the timed tests. I'm thinking about whether I should change this practice.
How long has everyone been studying for the august 2022 exam? I am studying basically full time this summer hoping to take the august 2022 exam. Going to have a lot less time once school starts but I am nervous to sign up for it and not end up doing well. Hoping for 165+ score -- what should my score be at the end of June to determine if I should sign up for the August exam or instead do the September/October one?
I'm totally running out of time studying for the August LSAT and it's so hard to admit it. I'm already signed up and paid and everything, no turning back now.... I'm working full time and thought it would be a lot easier to set aside time to study, not realizing how exhausted I'd be. Any advice on what parts I can skim through or skip ahead to??
Pt10 S1 Q19.
I keep getting this one wrong on blind review...
How many lsat preptests should we be taking from now until the august lsat?
I just want to say that this resource was life changing for me. I self studied using only 7sage for 6 months and went from a diagnostic of 154 in December to 177 on my first official LSAT this June. Thank you thank you thank you 7sage, JY, and the community of people here. If I can give back in any way to anyone who is a part of this community, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.
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I'm so confused on how C is not the right answer choice for this question, Help!