Hi all!

So after taking the LSAT for the first time September 2016 and getting a 145 after 2 rounds of Kaplan programs I decided to take a year off to work and study and try again September 2017.

I got a paralegal position at a law firm in NYC which has kept me busy with work and a long commute. I thought I'd be able to study more often (on the train, after work, etc) but it is proving to be a struggle. I am about halfway through the core curriculum as of now (studying since March) with a diagnostic score of 147. Regarding background info, in undergrad I was on the Dean's list every semester and in multiple honors societies as well as having this new job that will provide me with almost a year and a half of experience come Fall 2018.

**More time would be nice obviously, but I worry about whether or not it will lower my chances as far as admissions to push the test back to December. My goal is 160, but seeing as I can't seem to break 150 I realize that might not be possible and wonder if the time will make enough of a difference in the strength of my application.

Any and all advice is welcome!

Hey Everyone,

It was great seeing all of you who were there yesterday. It was an absolute pleasure. Thank you :).

I hope going over conditional arguments and seeing how they work in different question types was helpful. This weekend, on Sunday, I will be going over the causation argument type.

The session yesterday gave me a couple of insights and I would like to change a few things about the next session. To get the most out of the next session I am assigning homework. It is of course up to you to complete it and I will not check if all of you do the assigned work. But how much you are able to get out of the session will depend on how much you know about causation argument type before hand.

So before joining in I recommend watching the following seven videos that are part of 7sage core curriculum:

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/causation/

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/causation-theory/?ss_completed_lesson=1207

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/correlation/?ss_completed_lesson=1206

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/correlation-ideas/?ss_completed_lesson=1205

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/4-possible-explanations/?ss_completed_lesson=1204

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/chronology/?ss_completed_lesson=1203

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/causation-strategy/?ss_completed_lesson=1202

Each of these videos are about 5 minutes each - some even less than that so it shouldn't take that long.

For those of you who do not have 7sage core-curriculum please see if you can read up on causation argument as they are used in LSAT before coming into the session. This will give you the background knowledge necessary to see the pattern when we do go over the questions.

But just in case I will be going over the basics quickly at the start of the lesson. It just will not be as in depth as these videos.

I am still debating if I should release the questions I will be using for the upcoming session before the session. If I do, I will post it here before Sunday.

Let me know if there are any questions or thoughts in your comments below. I look forward to seeing all of you again (3(/p)

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Hey all,

So I'm starting to feel convinced that at a certain point in prep, it's better to focus on later tests. That is, if you aren't going to prep test every test out there (who has time for that, not me), then I think you have to somewhat chose your best use of time. I've raised the question here before about taking a stab at a later test (I had done all tests from 37-50 diligently in a row), and I was mostly advised not to jump ahead to a later test.

I decided on my own to try a later test (I know, sorry :), mainly just because I really wanted to see how much more "difficult" or "different" the test was down the road than the ones I was doing. I saw a significant drop in my score when I took Prep Test 79. I gave myself some leeway for the fact that it was a big jump, but I'm also more convinced than ever that at this point I'm best focusing my last 2 months before I take the test on the late 60s and 70s tests. I say that because they seem more representative of what the test I take will actually look like, and I think it's essential I get used to the more subtle wording of phrases, convoluted referential phrasing, and weird logic games that are more common on the later tests.

I'm still open to any thoughts on this though. I just kind of don't see the point of working through every test in the 50s and using up the time I have left on tests that aren't as representative of the test I'll be facing. Does anyone have any good arguments to the contrary?

Hi, anyone knows where I can find an editable lsat answer sheet? A really good one that I can use for untimed retakes.

I know there are no contrapositive for some, and that contrapositive is just another way of stating the statement, so must be equivalent to the original statement.

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Then I started to think that then "some" does have a contrapositive, since we can change the place of variables.

For example, if we have a statement that "Some A are B: A(-s-)B"

Then the contrapositive (the equivalent statement) would be "Some B are A: B(-s)A"

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Do we say there is just another way to stating the original statement, but no contrapositive because there is no sign involved when creating an equivalent statement?

Then does that mean contrapositive requires statement to involve change of sign in terms of negativity or positivity?

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I hope I am making sense! Thanks all (3(/p)

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Are any study group leaders, mentors or sages interested in leading a session on LG in CC and PT's??? Since we'll be having sessions for LR and RC, it seems practical to have one for LG as well. Any thoughts???

Hey Everyone,

This weekend on Saturday I will be going over PT 35, Passage 2. It's an art passage.

Like the previous times, we will first do the low and high resolution summaries then the questions under time before going over the answers. For that reason, you do not have to do the passage before coming to the session. But you do need the passage in front of you but we will also have it available on screen.

If this will be your first time please do not worry, I will go over what low and high resolution summaries are before we begin reading the passage, so you will quickly catch up.

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Thank you so much for having all the real MBE questions on here for such a reasonable price! I do have two things that would make it more valuable. I am not sure if it would be possible to implement them but I figure there is no harm in asking.

First, it would be great to see analytics based upon the set of problems (e.g., oldest, aging, and recent) that way I could see how I am progressing with each set individually rather than just overall. It is also more useful to see how I am doing with the more recent sets because of the possible differences in the law from the oldest to the newest. Also, having progressive analytics would be useful too. For instance, if it could show me how I am doing based upon the most recent 100 question's I've taken that would give me trend information as well or even if it was just broken up per 100 questions, that would be a great tool as well.

Second, I know this would be more work but it would make studying old practice problems that are not current law more useful. If you could provide what the answer would be based upon the current law, then we could know if our thinking was correct and it was just the fact that the law has changed that affected whether or not we got the right answer.

Again, thank you so much for providing real MBE questions! I've found them to be invaluable as I prepare for the July California Bar.

Is this right? And what is the meaning of No As are Bs? Are these three sentence the same one? Thx.

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So i have foolproofed games 1-35 thoroughly. Probably 5 to 6 times each. And the hard ones closer to 10 times. Now i am in the pt phase and during the time after a pt, after review and drills, i spend time going through those old games and some newer ones. How many games do you foolproof a day.? New and old?

Hi All,

I am trying to get accommodations for the September LSAT. I was diagnosed with ADHD due to attention in high school and I have issues with processing speeds/short term memory. I recently got re-tested since the first testing is over 12 years old and I'm going to submit psychologist's report. My question is, does the psychologist also have to fill out the "Statement of Need" or is her report enough? I tried to ask LSAC today, but they wouldn't tell me over the phone and then I e-mailed, but it might take a while for them to get back.

I received accommodations in high school (well I have a 504 plan) but I didn't really take any (that I remember at least) in college. I've been scoring consistently 154, but then around a 163-167 when I BR/go back and answer the questions I ran out of time to answer.

Thanks!

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Given how much weight YouTube places on likes/dislikes, would you guys mind "liking" this video on YouTube if you actually find the new approach helpful?

Related: I also posted a

Hey friends,

So I've been suffering from a crisis of confidence for about the last week because of my RC score. It's atrocious, disgusting, and infuriating. I've tried so many methods and I just haven't been able to get the hang of it. It's gotten to the point where it's negatively impacting my other sections because I can't help but think about it. My LR scores on PTs have gone from -1/-2 to -4/-5 per section and I have been much less in control with games. I was a rock solid -1/-2 per section and was quickly and efficiently handling the more non-traditional games. Now, I've been getting bullied around by those weird games, like the stone game from PT 60. I'm not really sure what's going on. My RC performance basically has me like that sad emoji, not the one with the tears but the one that looks both disappointed and sad. It's like my RC score is so awful that during the other sections I'm subconsciously saying "Ah, what's the use? I'm just going to go -11 in RC anyway..." This is easily the hardest part of my LSAT journey thus far and I know that the path to LSAT greatness lies in improving the RC score...but my problems go beyond a notation webinar or tracking things within the passage. I believe that my problems lie in being able to interpret what's true based on the passage even though it is not explicitly written. I have always been awful at this. I remember pretty much all of what was said, the arguments, viewpoints, but can't make RC inferences to save my life given the extreme time constraints under which we find ourselves. So many times I've read each passage with such diligence and check my answers with confidence that this was the 'aha' moment...only to go -9..-10. Obviously, the RC struggles have zapped a good deal of my confidence in the other sections and we all know that confidence is essential for LSAT success. For example, games that were taking me 6/7 minutes are now taking 9/10 because with every answer I'm like...uhhh hold on am I right?

Has anyone else ever gone through this? Even with the monstrosity that is my RC score, I'm still scoring 165+.

Please help!

-Frank

This may or may not be a discussion usually placed in the threads. But is there a right or wrong way to interact and connect with study buddies? So far I have only been able to connect with one but I feel like I just can't seem to get it right. We are all over the place and cannot seem to find the right way to interact to better help one another. We video chat, as we live very far from one another, and we are on two different levels in terms of our understanding of the material. Any advice on how to improve this?

Especially considering LR and RC.

Hello,

I got a 170 on the June LSAT and want to try to retake it in Sept with a 175+ ideally. I burned through all PTs studying for June, averaged around 173 from the 26 most recent tests reaching 178 twice, but it seems like I need a new game plan to really get to that next level consistently.

As for the breakdown for the June test: I missed 5 in RC (usually I miss around 0-3 - I was not expecting how hard the June RC would be), 2 in LG (I should not have missed those given how easy that section was, in PTs I miss around 0-1 but I am afraid the next test will have a harder LG which might stump me so I will definitely try to drill games until I can 100% stop making stupid mistakes), and LR I missed 1 each (usually I miss around 0-2 per section).

So far all I am planning is retaking PTs 60-81 and doing a better job blind reviewing and analyzing the questions re: making sure I know my thought process and that I can eliminate every wrong answer. Does anyone have any other ideas or how I should focus based on the info above? I'm definitely open to suggestions and what has worked for people. I'm just kind of stumped at how to make a study schedule at the moment to get what I'm shooting for.

Thanks!

When the LSAC CRS information asks for enrollment date, if I plan to start in Fall 2018, do I put 2018? Or because I'm applying in 2017, do I put 2017?

In a parallel q: does the order of the premises have to match the AC?

In PT11 S4 Q22 i diagrammed,

P->/L

/P->S

/S

/L

And AC 2:

/M->P

P->/C

/M

/C

So i see that they are identical but it came in a different order.?

So i am of the opinion that taking pt after pt is a waste of time and resources. I also dont believe in setting dates for my next pt, rather take it when i think i will see improvement. with that said, i took my first PT last week, after foolproofing, and RC was my biggest issue along with NA SA and some flaw types. I spent this past week going through the CC and the trainer on all these issues and drilling abit. I think i dealt w the issues in NA SA and probably the things i was missing with flaws. I also spent some time creating a notation strategy and went through a bunch of untimed RC drills. My question is should i take another PT now? I dont think it is possible to completely master RC in a week let alone months. But i feel like i have to get more exposure to see if i have any other weaknesses that i have to focus on. Thoughts?

Hey guys,

I'm currently in the BR phase of my routine and I have questions: I often find that among the questions that I circle I almost always go with my original answer, which is sometimes right and sometimes wrong. I've noticed that when I BR I have a hard time finding the correct answer for some of the tougher questions and in frustration I turn to solutions online.

I try my best to get the right answer but I just can't - any tips to actually crack the code and find the correct answer/any tips on how to read online material to better understand the question rather than just FIND the answer?

Thanks

Hey guys, I feel like I've hit a wall...

I just don't feel like I get the LSAT. I understand that it's a learnable exam, but I think there is something wrong with how I'm approaching it. The problem is I don't know what that is - and it's mostly with LR. I scored a 154 on my first diagnostic, and I was aiming to write in Sept, and I'm not sure if I should anymore. I do really want a 170+ (I know it's possible, and that I am capable, I just need to better understand the logical structure of this exam).

Best tips for understanding/applying theory? I'm going to spend this week drilling LR sections and BR each action. Any other tips, or what helped you get to your aha moment? I feel the gears moving, and like I'm starting to get it.....but I'm not there yet.

It's the company sending out project managers LG,

which of the following if substituted for...would have the same effect

So I'm seeing a lot of disappointment posts lately. Maybe its just the days I sign in or something but my point still stands. For those of you having a tough time, I'm right there with you. I'm a perfectionist and I hate making silly mistakes, or finding that there's something I've missed on a test. Right now I'm trying to break to the 160's and its difficult.

I know the feeling if it detracting from your self worth and I am here to tell you a piece of advice my boss once gave me.

"Be kind to yourself." Whatever you're doing, if you're giving it your best and being honest, you will get to your goal. So please for the love of all that is good, be kind to yourself. I'm pushing myself to do this throughout the process and I really did feel the need to share this with people here.

Peace out,

Shireen.