Hi everyone!

I realized my flashcards are all over the map. I wanted to ask fellow 7sagers: what are you flashcarding?

Thank you!

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I took a break to study for the LSAT and I did not do that well on the LSAT so I would rather not say that.

On job applications I just wrote that my part time job conflicted with my school schedule so I had to quit to finish my undergrad on time. I started a new job as soon as I graduated. (my work break was from August - July).

As I finished my undergrad in 4 years, its pretty clear that I was in school full time, so I think it's kind of a given that I wasn't just f*cking around for 11 months and I don't need to explain it? or should I explain just in case?

So I did write the December test but I have already registered to write the Feb one.

RC has been my weakest section and I honestly thought I had it down until I started doing some of the newer PTs.

How would you guys recommend going about this? I was planning on doing one to two passages untimed for the next couple of weeks and then start timing in January. I was fairly decent on doing the earlier RC passages untimed (-3/-5 on a section) . Though, I noticed a drastic change in my score when approaching the 60s and 70s.

What do you guys recommend? What has worked for you?

Hey all,

I got an e-mail from Georgetown requesting a 1-on-1 interview with an alumni. First, is this a good sign? Does it mean I'm being strongly considered or that I'm a "marginal" candidate?

Second, for those of you that have done a Georgetown interview, what should I expect? What questions should I expect them to ask? And how should I prepare?

Thanks,

Paul

Hi everyone, I’m panicking because I didn’t score as well as I was PTing in September. I got a 151, so I also sat for the December exam and feel decent about it. The problem is I am dying to go to the University of Georgia, and all of my former classmates are already getting acceptance letters from there, and I’m straight up PANICKING because I won’t get my score until January, and my GPA is below the median at 3.53. I have much more work and extracurricular experience than my former peers, so I feel like I still have some kind of shot if the December exam went as well as I thought. But I know there are limited spots, and they all had higher scores and GPAs than me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hello all! I can't find that list of suggested tutors. I'm looking for either a Portland, OR based tutor, or an online tutor, who focuses on Logical Reasoning and the hard questions. Thanks for any/all help!

Hey guys,

Did anyone just receive a fee waiver from Columbia?

I know fee waivers don’t mean anything in terms of my chance of admission, but it was kind of surprising to see I received one from Columbia, considering my LSAT score is 167. (Hopefully I scored higher on the Dec. LSAT)

What do you guys think?

Hey 7sagers! I just wanted some advice. I am a first generation college grad. I have mentioned it in my personal statement. Do you guys think it is worth writing a diversity statement as well? Or is it something that is fairly common?

didn't know what other word to use for unnecessary BS

I started this LSAT journey with a quick pass through of the Kaplan logical reasoning approach and, honestly, there were still some pretty gaping holes in my comfort with logical reasoning translation. At first, I felt like the 7sage approach helped a lot... it is much more mechanical and requires memorization of those four groups and the translation strategy. This worked well for me while going through the initial lessons, but now that it's all mixed together, I am realizing that it's just not intuitive for me to translate the group 3 and 4 words so mechanically.

For example, I find it much easier to treat UNLESS as a logical indicator for the necessary term. Then, I simply replace the word "unless" with my arrow and negate the sufficient term (this was the part I often forgot while doing the Kaplan practice problems). However, Kaplan's way definitely made things easier when the sentence also contains a negative, so a group 4 word. In that case, it means what it is... that term is just a negative term. I don't have to flip things or rearrange the sentence to translate it.

My question is, if I treat "unless" and "without" in the way that Kaplan explained it to me, do I need to ignore the whole entire 7sage translation system? Or, I guess to say that differently, I am specifically wondering about translating in groups 3 and 4. Has anyone else found these two approaches conflicting or am I just looking at it the wrong way?

According to Spivey's data, there has been an overall increase in the number of applicants, specifically those scoring in the 160s to 170s, notably with a 262% increase in those who scored a 175! Does this mean that the cycle is going to be more competitive going forward, with the unlimited retake policy? How will schools treat splitters and reverse-splitters?

Heres the link: http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/december-2017-data/

My name is Mark. Ill be travelling to NYC for the week next week and would love to grab a coffee with a few cohorts. I'm thinking Monday afternoon, 2pm-ish, but I am pretty flexible. Sort of a nomad for the week.

A little about me. 49, my oldest is in the city for his Masters degree work at Juilliard. I just (emotionally) finished taking the LSAT for the last time, so I am one of those that is working with what they have. (This test beat the crap out of the CPA exam I have to say, and that exam lasted for days not hours).

Whether you are seasoned, or fresh out of school, it makes sense to me to reach out and share stories, strategies, or just general fears.

We can target a location as we get closer.

And to save the discussion boards some clutter, we may move the convo "offline". I'll keep checking in periodically to see if anyone's interest has been peaked.

I graduated last June and took the December test, short story is I am 95% sure that I did poorly. I am currently registered for the February test.I have called the schools I am interested in applying and they said that I will still be in consideration even after February. They will just hold my application while they wait for my February results. I am not applying for any scholarship money, since I am well aware its too late to even apply. But is it too late to apply to law school with the February LSAT result?

I have read people saying that most admission spots will be filled, and this is highly discouraging... Why the heck would the school even take my application (and money) if they already filled their roster for 2018...

I graduated from undergrad this past May, did a fulfilling internship abroad, then came home to start studying for my LSAT. I thought I would take it in Dec but my PS course didn't adequately prepare me and I found 7sage too late. Planning to take in Feb, but even considering taking it in June if my scores aren't consistently in the 170s by the Feb date.

I can't help but feel embarrassed that I've taken time off to come home study for this exam while my impressive, high achieving friends are off with their shiny new post-grad jobs. I decided to take time off/study at home because I know personally that I'm pretty anxious with standardized exams and wanted to feel fully prepped. My diagnostic was also much lower than I wanted it to be. I feel lesser telling them "I'm studying for the LSAT."

Now I can't help but feel even more embarrassed with the thought of pushing the date back and them knowing/judging me, etc.

Has anyone been in a similar situation with friends? How did you deal with it? I feel dumb for even typing this out, but it's getting to the point where I think it's affecting my studying bc I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Hey! I’m starting to foolproof games now and I was wondering if and why it’s necessary to keep your old game papers and setups as opposed to just the data? Do you ever go back and look at ur game setups ? Thanks!

Hey everyone,

Columbia is currently the #5 law school in the nation. But relative to other schools within its ranks, its 25th/50th/75th percentile GPAs are incredibly low: 3.56/3.70/3.81.

Their LSAT scores are more on par with their ranking: 168/172/174.

To me, this could be the result of two competing explanations:

If scenario #1 is true, that is a really good case for GPA splitters - people who have good GPAs but meh LSATs. For example, a 3.90 GPA with a 167 LSAT might just get you into Columbia.

But if scenario #2 is true, then sorry GPA splitters! It doesn't really matter.

I was wondering what y'alls' thoughts were on this topic. I've always been dumbfounded as to how comparatively low Columbia's GPA standards are. Is this because people who apply their don't have as stellar GPAs, or because they just don't care about GPA as much? Or something else?

I'd love to hear your thoughts and theories.

Thanks,

Paul

I just stopped at the end of section 2-- logic games-- in a prep test, after leaving one game almost completely unfinished. I think I'm ready to give up on the LSAT.

My background: went to a good school, didn't have direction, graduated with a 3.0, and I've been working in a job that I hate for three years. Public service is my passion, and I really want to go to law school (a good law school, of course). I need to crack into the 170's to be a viable candidate. I started studying in May with the PowerScore books, then I discovered 7Sage a few months ago. I've been studying pretty seriously and intensively for the last 2-3 months. My score has improved from a 155 to a 162, but it has stagnated at that 162 for three tests. I've been doing some refining around the edges, really utilizing that LSAT analytics feature-- nailing 4s and 5s.

I feel like I'm not "getting" it-- like I don't have that edge, or intelligence, or whatever it is that allows oneself to crack 170. My throat is hoarse from screaming after ending another logic games section with a game untouched. I thought, what's the point anymore? I've been working at it for so long and hard and I still can't nail these games under timed circumstances, especially when there's only one 1 in the set. Sure, I can go back afterward under non-timed conditions and eventually get it. And sure, I can do it ten times after watching JY brilliantly explain it, but that doesn't change how I perform when I try to apply what I've learned.

I've read some stories from people who have scored really well (175+), and they all share a common feature: they studied for a couple of months (usually around 2-4, sometimes 6), and ended up scoring in the range near what they scored on the test on their last few practice tests. I know everyone is different, but after 6 months of studying I feel like I should be going 150->160->162->165->166->...->171 based on how hard I'm working on this.

I try my hardest to stay positive, think intuitively, be a good listener, and apply what I learned from the lessons to the new material presented to me in practice tests, but I feel like it's getting me nowhere. Am I not smart enough? Have I just hit my mental capacity? I'm no genius by any means, but I feel like I'm pretty damn intelligent.

At this point, I don't see a path forward. And it really sucks. Anyone else relate? How did you pull yourself out of it? How did you start nailing practice tests? My test is Feb 10, and I'm really considering throwing in the towel now.

I have studied with power score in the past and have taken blueprint as well. Powerscore LR says to read stimulus first and then the question but blueprint is the other way around ( read question then stimulus). What is your take/suggestion?

Hi 7sagers!

I'm based in Manhattan, and I'm interested in starting a study group that meets in person for the upcoming June 2018 LSAT. I'm currently registered to take the February 2018 LSAT, but I may postpone.

I'm using materials mostly from 7Sage as well as the LSAT Trainer and Manhattan LSAT Prep.

Please contact me if you are interested, and I'll reply as soon as I can.

Hi there,

This would be a miscellaneous question! So I am applying right now and in the first week of January but I will be moving out of my place to another place till mid February or so, and then I intend on moving once again, to yet another address, this time in a completely different state. What should I do in terms of putting my "current address" in the applications or in my resume and the like? Should I go ahead and just put my current address or should I put the future one? The final address would be able to receive any and all letters if it need be. I am thinking it might not matter at all since everything is done electronically these days and I feel compelled to just put my future address but I don't want to "lie" on my application

any thoughts are welcomed

Thanks!

Hi all, although this is my first time posting, I've already been studying for the LSAT starting from September. As such, I'm decently familiar with the general structure of logic games.

My question to everyone is, do you think it's counterproductive to listen to podcasts while re-doing logic games from previous PTs that I've already done? It's in my nature to try to do multiple things at one time, but I'm wondering if I'm hurting my retention of the game inferences by listening to a podcast in the background. Obviously I do not do podcasts while practicing the other LSAT sections, however logic games are just more tedious because I'll re-do each one at least 5 times if not more during foolproofing, and I really like the extra stimulation of sound in the background. Am I the only one who does this?

Hey everyone I need some help/advice. While studying for the LSAT it seemed to me that there was a method to the madness certain steps/processes to follow in order to effectively reach the end goal. However, when it comes to the personal statement I am completely lost, I write something and end up deleting it because I don't like what I wrote or there are times where I sit down and just don't know what to even write about. Is anyone else going through this?

Hello everyone,

February will be my third and final exam, and making the final push now. Was wondering what your study week looks like? Do you guys try to do a bit of LR, RC, LG in a day, or focus on one section per day?

I work full time, and usually study for an hour before work, and 2-3 hours afterwards.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.. best of luck to everyone!

I'm pretty sure I didn't do very well on the Dec LSAT. My average PT score dropped 10 points a month before the test (I was devastated) and it didn't vastly improve before test day. I'm wondering what my chances of getting in my back-up school are if my GPA is over their 75% and LSAT is under their 25% (by two points, which is where I'm thinking I'll land after scores come out). My resume includes a lot of volunteer work, leadership awards and positions, and work experience. I worked through undergrad and am currently working full time as the HR coordinator of a large physicians practice (I'm interested in health care law).

Any thoughts or advice? Is it even worth applying if my LSAT ends up under the school's 25%?