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Was wondering if there is a way to save the given PTs in the CC? I like to print double-sided and in certain ways for RC (such as printing double-sided but having the passage and questions both visible). Is there a way to save the PTs? If not, is there an option somewhere that I'm not seeing to do this?

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Hi all,

So, I've probably made every stupid LG mistake in the book at this point. Writing down rules wrong, making an incorrect inference that carries through into all the questions, reading a rule wrong, question stem wrong... list goes on and on. Obviously, I'm well aware that even a small mistake in LG that carries through in a game can wreck your entire LSAT score.

I previously posted to ask about mitigating the impact of making a mistake when it occurs. My question is, how do you avoid these mistakes in the first place? Specific strategies welcome (and yes, I do double check all my rules after writing them down!)

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Hi all,

Having trouble understanding when there is an embedded conditional (or, the LSAT wants us to view it as such) or a referential phrase that uses an "if", for example, within a simple conditional.

Here's a specific example: PT70.S1.Q23

"Columnist: Although most people favor the bill, it will not be passed for several years..."

All of the answers, except for answer choice D, have embedded conditionals (or what I think are embedded conditionals) in them. Here are the answer choices:

(A) "In a well-functioning democracy, any bill that would benefit most people will be passed into law within a few years if it does not violate anyone’s basic human rights."

(B) If a democracy is well functioning, then any bill that is opposed by influential people but favored by most other people will eventually pass into law.

(C) In a well-functioning democracy, a bill that is favored by most people will become law within a few years only if those who oppose it are not very influential.

(D) Any bill passed into law in a well-functioning democracy will be favored by most people and be consistent with individuals’ basic human rights. (NO EMBEDDED CONDITIONAL HERE)

(E) A bill that most people favor will be passed promptly into law in a well-functioning democracy if the bill does not violate anyone’s basic human rights.

So 2 questions:

(1) I would appreciate a detailed rundown of the answer choices; specifically, how do you read them (i.e., as embedded conditionals? As a simple conditional with a referential phrase)? And also why/why not they are correct,

(2) More generally, how do you know when something is an embedded conditional or just a simple conditional with a referential phrase inside of it?

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I'm planning to take the June LSAT and have started taking PTs. I have the Premium course, which includes up to PT 58. I was curious how many of the newer PTs one would recommend taking to better simulate what the more current test is like. Also, do I need to upgrade my account in order to hear explanations on the newer PTs (59+)? Thanks!

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    I know this question shouldn't and won't affect my studying habits (except for maybe lighting a fire under my ass), but I noticed that UCLA, my goal school, jumped to #15 in the most recent US News rankings. Is this going to make them more selective? I'm doing my best to make a 170 the next time I take the test, but I felt a little comfort knowing that if I have a bad day, UCLA's average LSAT score is a 167...

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    I've been reading a lot that most softs don't matter at all except in tie breaker situations. Is this true? I just did my LSAC GPA calculation and it dropped my GPA a whole point and a half (sigh) but I have extremely relevant work experience (negotiate contracts/represent individuals in arbitrations and employment hearings for a union) and military service. I'm kind of hoping that's still looked at, but the more I read on the subject the less important softs seem to be.

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    After much deliberation, I have decided to attend the University Chicago Law School. I came really close to picking Notre Dame because they offered me a near full ride but as others have mentioned before, the doors that Chicago opens are just unmatched by most schools. The debt was a hard thing for me to move beyond but at the end of the day, I think it will all be worth it. I have heard people tell me that I am a dreamer but today that dream becomes a reality.

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    Hi everyone,

    I'd like to share a RC strategy that's been working for me.

    PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH OTHER SITES/ COMMUNITIES.

    I'm just trying to give back to this community that has given me much.

    Quick note about me:

    When I first began the LSAT prep, I didn't think that I needed to focus on RC much, due to my arrogance.I majored in Political Science (Political Theory) and got a master's degree in humanities. I'm very used to critically reading and analyzing dense, complex materials. I also happened to get a perfect score on GRE verbal. I didn't have much trouble with the GRE RC passages, so I thought that my experience would be the same for the LSAT passages.

    I was wrong.

    When I first timed myself, I realized that I go over 10 min easily per passage, with 1+ wrong. I'd be missing on average 5 questions wrong per section, way over the allotted time. Since then, I have been studying and researching various RC strategies to help me, such as Nicole's webinar, Corey's active reading webinar and @"Cant Get Right" 's, (they were also super duper helpful. I really highly recommend watching them), some discussion postings from here (the posting from @theforms is also very helpful) , some from TSL, Mike Kim's trainer, etc.

    After synthesizing my own strategy and using it, I am now consistently 2~3 min under with 0-2 wrong per section.

    Here's my synthesized strategy from the various resources above.

    Success to RC = a seamless integration of 1. active reading + 2.reading for structure.

    My strategy is on how to INTEGRATE the two. I'm not going to go into details on explaining what is each, because there are many resources out there already.

    Before I go over my strategy, I will still briefly mention what active reading and reading for structure are.

    What is an active reading? It is engaging with the reading as if one is having a dialogue. Think of it as active listening; it is about being totally present, but mindfully detached. We all know some of the crucial techniques to actively read well. Below are the especially effective techniques for me.

  • Reference phrasing- cannot emphasize this enough. If you don't know what this is, go to CC and watch the part on it
  • Visualizing- I find this technique priceless. Basically, try to visualize the abstract material you are reading, if you have a hard time processing. Treat the difficult sentence as a scene in the movie and try to picture it in your mind. This helps with retention and understanding.
  • What question is a sentence responding to? This is another technique that I find extremely useful in capturing the essence of each sentence.
  • Here's an example sentence. "LSAT passages are like paper tigers: they appear to be formidable at first, but get easier over time."

    When you encounter the sentence, think about what question would prompt the above sentence as an answer. My question would be, "how difficult are the LSAT passages?" Here, it helps you to articulate the essence of the sentence: It is about the difficulty of the LSAT passages.

    Reading for structure

  • Basically reading for relationships.
  • How do the concepts/ themes interact with one another?
  • How do the sentences interact with another? what are their relationships?
  • How do the paragraphs interact with one another?
  • Like I said, I won't get into the details of reading for structure.

    Now here's the crucial integration piece I'd like to share with you- how active reading and reading for structure integrate and feed off from one another.

    The key is to

    Step 1. find the central theme (the key subject matter that forms a basis for an argument, hypothesis, claim, finding, problem) in the opening paragraph and treat each sentence as revealing the aspects of that central theme. Compile the aspects of the central theme as you are reading, and add them on to the central theme. This is pretty abstruse, so I will use an example (PT 32 Passage 4 opening paragraph) to explain.

    sentence 1: something about wine. - (hold this in thought as you are reading. Something about wine is the central theme)

    sentence 2: wine - distinct. (Here's an aspect of the central theme, wine: it is distinct. try to utilize the active reading techniques mentioned above. What question would the sentence be answering?

    sentence 3: wine- distinct b/c of health benefits (there's another aspect. It is distinct. Why? Because it has health benefits)

    sentence 4: wine- distinct health benefits- obscured by the scientists.

    Do you see what I am doing? I am simply adding on and connecting the previous information to the new information. Going from simply "wine," the central theme as revealed by sentence 1, I now have a more clear picture about this central theme and its aspects by sentence 4.

    The paragraph ends here. What do I have now in sentence 4, the last sentence?

    The scientists (who? go back to sentence 1) have obscured the healthful benefits of wine that other alcoholic beverages do not have.

    Step 2. Find the structure.

    What does this compilation of the central theme + its aspects signify? What does it mean? Why did the author write this?

    Simply try to articulate using this mantra, "the author is trying to..." with the compilation that you have at the end of the paragraph.

    The author is trying to... 1. suggest that wine has a health benefit that other alcoholic beverages do not have (this is the author's position) 2. counter "the scientists."

    So think of having 2 mental columns as you are reading.

    The left column: find a central theme--> find the essential aspects of this theme in each subsequent sentence and add on to the central theme found. (like what I did above. wine-> wine is distinct -> wine is distinct in x way -> wine is distinct for x way but that distinction has been obscured by Y)

    The right column: after each paragraph, think about the final compilation in the left column and simply ask, "why did the author write this?" Why did the author write that "wine is distinct for x way but t hat distinction has been obscured by Y?" The answer to this question = the purpose of each paragraph.

    Repeat this for each paragraph.

    Using this strategy, I read the passage in about 4:15 min and answered the questions in 4 min. Total: 8:15 and 30 seconds under the allotted time / passage.

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    I am curious what is the relevance and weight that will be placed on work and internship experience for law school admissions and then also (and perhaps more importantly) once one gets into law school and needs to find a job once in law school & upon graduation. I currently have no legal experience but am not sure how important it is that I gain experience before entering law school -maybe not so much because I believe it could harm my chances of getting in as I am afraid it would harm my chances of getting a job in or after law school. I am in my junior year of undergrad and at this point desire to apply to law schools this fall and go straight to law school after graduation. According to my pre-law advisor at my undergrad university (UC Berkeley), law schools do not place as much weight on experience (as LSAT and GPA) in terms of admissions. However, I am unsure exactly how much it would affect me after getting into a law school. Does anyone have concrete advise on this issue?

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    I was on a different forum when I had a question about meditation. I recently downloaded "Headspace" on my iPhone and it's been great. What it does is it gradually guides you, in increments, in the realms of meditation. I've felt a lot more optimistic and less anxious, and generally more apt at adjusting to my LSAT/life-induced stress since I've started meditating.

    When I first read about it in the CC, I was really skeptical of its effects. The term 'meditation' seemed intimidating and kinda hardcore. But this app makes the experience a lot more intuitive, simple and enjoyable. 10/10 recommendation.

    TLDR: get "Headspace" on your phone

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    Please help. I don't understand why (C) is wrong.

    Stimulus: No combining publicity appearance and competition. So it is "not both" rule.

    PA-->/Competition, or it could be Competition -->/PA

    PA-->/Competition

    Competition

    _________________

    /PA

    (C)

    Tomato thrive --> Hot Summer

    /Hot Summer

    ______________________

    /Tomato thrive

    I was also having trouble subtle differences of serious emergency and critical emergency.

    (B)

    less serious emergency -->/critical emergency

    fairly minor emergency

    ____________________

    /critical emergency

    I would think fairly minor emergency would also be non critical emergency....

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    Hey all!

    First, I'd like to thank 7sage for everything it's offered! It's been so invaluable to me. I got into a lot of schools with scholarships I can be pretty happy with.

    There's only one thing; I was wait listed at my dream school (Cornell) and I'd really like to make that happen. I've been thinking about taking the June LSAT since I heard the idea, especially since I took the February one and panicked under pressure and ended up with a lot lower of a score than I had been scoring on PTs.

    But how does taking the June LSAT work for wait lists? Do you have to let the school know you're going to take the LSAT and notify them when the score comes in? Should you ask the school if they'd even review a June LSAT first? And my biggest worry--if a school somehow sees on your application that you're going to take a June LSAT, do you think they'd deliberately postpone letting you off the waitlist if they might have done it sooner? I'd hate to unnecessarily prolong this process.

    Anyway, regardless of what happens with Cornell, I'll be really happy to be attending Emory in the fall with a BIG scholarship that I'm pretty excited about!

    Thanks so much for all your help!

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    Proctors: There were about 3-4 proctors circulating the room, with 1 main proctor reading off the instructions and calling time. When monitoring us, they were very quiet and did not linger for long when passing through the tables. I don't believe I ever heard them whispering during the test either. (Granted, I was towards the back and no one near me asked questions during the test.) With enforcing the rules, I was quite surprised at how strict they were as we were only allowed to wear our jackets if the hood was tucked in. Otherwise, there were no jackets allowed on the backs of our chairs. With the exception of the timing mishap below, I would consider them to be quite good overall.

    Facilities: Each floor had men's, women's, and accessible washrooms. Though there was a lineup to use them, it didn't take long as there were about 5-6 stalls available (at least for the women's side). They were very clean as well. For drinking fountains, I don't believe there were any, but you could refill your water bottle on the first floor (only if your test was on that floor) at the refill station.

    What kind of room: It was a huge classroom (capacity: 188) inside the Swing Building with fixed, long tables and rotatable chairs. There are stairs to walk down to the front of the room with each level comprised of three rows of tables (i.e. smaller at both ends). In terms of wheelchair access, it is only available at the front and back of the classroom.

    How many in the room: I believe there were about 6-7 rows of us with about 10 per row spaced one seat apart, so probably about 60-70 students in our room alone? We were randomly assigned to rooms when we first entered the building. I believe there were 4 rooms in total (i.e. 2 on the first floor and 2 on the second floor), though I don't know how many students were in those rooms.

    Desks: These were fixed, long tables with rotatable chairs attached—the ideal desktop to do a test on because it's spacious and comfortable!

    Left-handed accommodation: This was not necessary due to the long tables.

    Noise levels: Minimal, especially if you've practiced with the distractions on the 7Sage proctor. As I said, I don't recall hearing any of the proctors whispering during the sections. At most, there was just the rustling of pages and the occasional cough. Students chattered a bit during the break, but it was at a tolerable noise level given testing conditions.

    Parking: West Parkade is right next door and has plenty of parking space. Because it was snowing that day, there was some backup of cars prior to and after the test.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: I actually arrived at the test centre at 7:20AM and was lucky to have the building open already. Check-in started prior to 8:30AM and I believe the test commenced shortly after 9AM (due to how slow we were in the admin process).

    Irregularities or mishaps: In the fourth section, the proctor forgot to call the 5-minute mark but still ended the section at the proper time. However, this caught several students off-guard, resulting in some commotion (approximately 1-2 minutes) between one student and the proctor prior to the start of the final section. The proctor told us that he could not give us more time but he would make a note of it to LSAC and we could file a complaint if need be.

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    I am nearing the end of the games portion in the CC [total progress %77] and I was wondering if I should have been fool proofing every single problem set or not. I have been studying 55 hour weeks for the past month now and I am still "35 hours" (according to the syllabus) behind in the CC. I think fool proofing the enormous amount of games would take a few weeks.

    I am fully open and willing to take the time and fool proof the hell out of these games, but I was wondering if taking two weeks to get all of them done is worth it if it sets me back two weeks on my study schedule.

    I do realize that the ultimate goal here is it do well on the LSAT and that this method will enable me to do so. But I just feel a bit overwhelmed as I am always behind in the CC, no matter how rigorous I set my my own study schedule.

    Any thoughts?

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    Wednesday, Mar 29, 2017

    Focus

    For most of the time I have been doing the CC, I have been struggling keeping focus as I read the LR questions. When I time myself, I can't keep focus sometimes which causes me to miss key words/details resulting in missing the question. Its extremely frustrating when I have to keep re-reading sentences/the paragraph because I don't understand what I have just read.

    I have tried to read random question passages and quickly write down what I have just read to improve memory and focus but I don't know if that is a waste of time or not. I'm about done with the CC and I really need to fix this problem or I'm screwed 6 ways to Sunday for this test.

    Are there any drills or tips anyone has with LR focus or just focus in general?

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    So I've been studying for the LSAT for a year and some change now.

    Finally decided to sign-up for 7Sage in December.

    I was averaging around 165 with BR's in the 168-9. I went through the curriculum and for my last 4 PT's my actual score is still around 165, BR score has been in the low to mid 170's. My major improvements came in LG and LR.

    I miss anywhere from 4-7 on LR (mostly PSA and Flaws)

    -0/-1 in LG

    5-9 in RC.

    I'm hopeful that with another two months of studying I can shave off a couple of mistakes from my LR and consistently hit -0 on LG. But my Reading Comprehension is so incredibly inconsistent.

    A lot of times I'll do -2/-1 on RC drills but when I sit to take the real thing all hell breaks loose.

    I've watched the webinars on Reading Comprehension and make an effort to read actively but this is just driving me nuts.

    I remember when I first started studying for the test, RC was by far my best section (-2/-3). After a year of studying I'm missing three times that much.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  • I'm planning on taking the June LSAT and would very much like to get a score in the 170's
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