So while I'm studying for this monster of a test, I sometimes can't tell if I'm getting burned out , or if I'm just not getting it. I'm on strengthening questions currently. When I went through weakening questions, I felt like i grasped the concept fairly easily, but I'm not catching the assumptions nearly as well as I did in the weakening questions as the strengthening questions. Does anyone have any tips/suggestions/diagnosis?

Hello everyone! I hope you are doing well. I was wondering if any of you know of any apps in particular that really help you in places where you cannot study?When I am in the car be driven to work (I live in Saudi) I get car sick from reading, and I am just looking for supplements for when I cannot be staring at problems that are still helpful. TIA!

When taking a timed Logic Game, it's so easy to just write out the rules, look for quick inferences, and dive into the questions with what, at the time, seems like a good understanding of the rules and how they relate to each other. Unfortunately, it often turns out that I forget about a rule or don't catch some key inferences that were deeper than simply chaining rules together (e.g., seeing the deeper J->(F and R) inference in PT23/Section 1/Game 3). Although it's nice to, due to familiarity, remember more rules and see more inferences when re-doing the game in Blind Review, I'd much rather be able to remember and see them the first time.

What best practices do you use to internalize the rules during game board setup to help you remember them?

What best practices do you use for gaining a deeper understanding of the relationships between rules during game board setup?

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Hi! I am struggling to see why D is right over E. When I first solved this Q, I selected D, but after I did BR, I chose E.

D) I initially liked answer D. However, when I reread the stimulus, I focused on the part that says for MANY people, a high consumption of simple carbs will lead to excessive production of insulin. The stimulus says MANY, not ALL. So I thought D was too general/ strong. Maybe for some people, a high intake of simple carb does not lead to excessive production of insulin, and thus fat gain.

E) So this answer talks about people who do NOT produce an excessive amount of insulin. We don't know much about them, but we do know that eating simple carbs would cause less weight gain than those who produce an excessive amount. If they restrict ONLY their consumption of simple carbs, they will not lose weight. -> I thought this was not fully supported, but not entirely wrong. We don't know if they will or will not lose weight. I thought "WILL NOT" is pretty strong.

I view both D and E to be flawed, so I am not sure why D would be a more compelling answer.

What makes D's flaw less fatal? What makes D a more compelling answer?

I listened to JY's explanation and also searched Manhattan forum, and I still can't articulate exactly why D would be a better answer.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-1-question-08/

Any suggestions for keeping all the flaws straight? Or improving intuition for which flaw will be the winner?

Sometimes the arguments are so bad that I can pick out 3 or more errors in reasoning. This can make it difficult to stay focused in the ACs.

Hi all,

I have a question. I am applying to law school this fall, but am wanting to take some courses as a visiting student at Columbia's MSW program in Spring of 2018. Would I still have to send those transcripts to LSAC/CAS even if I am applying in the fall and will be completely done with applications by December of 2017? I checked online and it said I should send all transcripts, but is the best thing to do just call and ask the schools?

My only concern is risking looking like I don't know what I want to do if I take some MSW courses... the reason being for, honestly, just academic pleasure. I am really interested in social work.

Thanks y'all,

Can anyone comment on the ratio of Easiest, Easier, Medium, Harder and Hardest questions (On the 5 star system) on various sections (RC, LR and LG)?

I can get the easiest to medium questions almost all correct, but I cannot get the harder and hardest questions for the life of me, and I am stressed out about it.

How many harder and hardest questions are we expecting to see on each section?

thanks everyone

Hi everyone!

84 Days left until the June LSAT

I was going through some old discussion points and noticed a weekly thread for review.

Feel free to contribute via your schedule/goal for the weekend and don't hesitate to give me pointers on mine!

Keep going! You're doing great :)

I had a few questions about the rules of actually taking the test in person I was hoping someone could clear up for me.

It's my understanding that you are only allowed to work on the section they tell you to work on and you can't open to any other section whether you've completed it or it's an upcoming one. Is that correct? Meaning, if taking section 2 of the test and the clock is going, you can't look back to section 1 and you can't look forward to 3/4/5.

Second, are the test booklets closed during the break? Am I leave it open to the last page of the last section just completed or do all booklets need to be closed?

Finally, are the scantrons of the actual test the same ones 7sage has for PT's? Meaning are all 5 sections on the same sheet?

Here's what prompted these questions: I was taking a PT today and I had trouble with the last question of section 1. During sections 2 and 3 my mind would wonder back to that question and think about it some more. I then realized why one answer was correct and why the answer I chose was wrong. I thought, damn, I missed that question. But then I realized I could just erase the answer and change it to what I know is the correct answer while I'm taking section 3. I never turned the page of the test booklet back to section 1. The whole reconsidering was done in my head alone. I figured if it's all on the same scantron and I'm not technically working on a different section in the booklet can't I just erase the answer on the section 1 part of the scantron?

If someone could answer these that would be helpful thanks!

Hello,

I am planning on taking the LSAT in December 2017 for August 2018 admissions. I live in Puerto Rico and the school I am planning on attending requires a 150. Which course do you all recommend I take? I have a 3.7 GPA. When should I begin studying?

Thanks!

When I took my diagnostic test, reading comp was my best section , -3. I am an avid reader and thought this part of the test would be the least difficult for me. For a few months, my RC score was consistently my best.

As my studying has intensified, my RC score has suddenly tanked. I recently PTed and got a -9(!!!) in RC. All my other areas have improved significantly, and my PTs are in the high 160s/low 170s. But somehow, my RC score keeps dropping.

It's true that my studying has focused primarily on other areas (formal logic, etc. from the CC, drilling games and LR) but I predicted that this would keep my RC score stagnant, not cause it to collapse.

Has anyone experienced this? What mistake could I be making that wrecks my RC score?

I currently have the Toptier timer lsat watch and it works fine, but im worried I won't have to time reset it in during the actual test. Should I get the more expensive ones (if they're even in stock) or am i fine?

Thanks

Recently, I've been PTing around 164 -167, and my goal for the June test is 170+. LR continues to be my weakest section, and I am remarkably consistent in missing around 5 questions per section. I BR and study the question types I miss after each PT, but I am not finding any patterns in the types of questions I miss. I feel like once I study and master one concept, I miss a question for a question type I previously thought I understood. In my blind review, I am generally able to score -1 or -2 per section.

Any ideas on how to study since I can't exactly pin down one question type as problematic?

Specifically, I am looking at PT 68.S2.Q23, the second sentence: "We must therefore reject Tolstoy's rash claim that if we knew a lot about the events leading up to any action, we would cease to regard that action as freely performed").

So that would be diagrammed out as:

Not (know about events ---> ~freely performed)

Which I was told turns into:

(Know about events ---> freely performed)

My question is a theoretical one, and that is: WHY do you negate a conditional by introducing the sufficient and denying the necessary?

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I started back up in January after graduating and moving and was hoping to be ready for the June exam. But with my new commitment to do this right the 2nd time round, it has taken me a lot longer to get through the CC. Plus, I have been really influenced by everyone on here to try and master the concepts better and I feel betting on myself in September will get me to my target score (168-170 range).

I hope this post helps those who are debating on pushing things back a bit. It sucks but I feel like I have a better shot at doing taking this test once and being done. There is nothing wrong with admitting you're not where you need to be if that helps you arrive at your final destination in the long run.

7Sagers - I'm aiming to take the LSAT again in June - my 4th go around as I really want to go to Law School (duh) in fall of 2018... Anyways, I fancy myself as one of the worst LSAT takers ever to come about - 144-146-151 (most recent)... I'm currently drilling at 161 average after taking 5 tests (and finishing most of the curriculum for a 2nd time) - 36-37-38-39-40... I've taken those tests before, but it has been a few years, so I think that my question recognition is distant and not an advantage....

The whole point - keep the faith - keep working hard and better results will follow.

One thing I've noticed - my confidence is on a whole different level than a few years ago... And I'm crushing Logic games - I average 2 misses per game roughly... That is key! Reading Comp is rough and Logic Reasoning is still frustrating. I'm not a robot and human... Really dig down the application effect for logic reasoning - don't gloss over the explanations!

My goal is anything over 158 come June and William and Mary Law!

One last piece of advice: find the right balance between practice tests and curriculum review!

Hi guys, could someone explain to me why answer choice C is correct for Q24? It doesn't explicitly say in the passage that the English "allowed" Parliament to make constitutional changes by legislative enactment. I guess this is correct because we can safely assume this was the case? I originally chose (A) but I guess A is wrong because nowhere does it say that the English were uncomfortable with institutions that could claim absolute authority. They were against absolute powers of kings, but not the Parliament. Am I right?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-9-section-1-passage-4-questions/

Also for Q27, I was between A and E, and ended up choosing E correctly. But during BR, I got confused for some reason and changed back to A. Why would A be wrong and E be correct? Any input would be appreciated!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-9-section-1-passage-4-questions/

I heard a sage say, somewhere, that once you are good at fool proofing individual games, you should move on to fool proofing entire sections. What are people's thoughts on this?

I have been fool proofing individual games for many months now and feel ready to "upgrade" my studying to full sections. What are the best strategies to implement this?

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I understand that "ALL" is a sufficiency indicator word, and "REQUIRE" is a necessity indicator word.

I'm wondering then, what does the phrase "ALL that is REQUIRED" indicated? Does it indicate a biconditional relationship?

Specifically, I'm struggling with the sentence "All that is required to create conditions of economic justice (EJ) is the redistribution of wealth (ROW)" ( PT15, Section3, Question 7, Answer choice E).

Thank!

I am still struggling with timing in some sections. At the 5 minute mark when I take practice PT's, I am still bubbling in the last question as the proctor (app) says "Pencils down" (like, filling in the oval). If were to do that during a real exam, would it be an issue? Or does pencils down mean drop your pencil immediately, without filling in the rest of the oval you were bubbling?

Sounds like a small question but I just had to ask.

I've seen Cant Get Right's 3 Phase study plan partially quoted in other posts, but I cannot find it in its entirety.

Can someone link me to it, if possible?

Also, I noticed that he held several webinars in Jan and Feb about it. Is there any update on when/if those might be uploaded as recordings? I am just moving on from the CC and definitely realizing that learning how to learn is necessary for success.

Thanks!

Hi all, does anybody know of any test prep companies/other places in the Philadelphia that offer free in-person proctored PTs or allow you to bring your own to be proctored (without having to sign up for a full course)? Also, any other Philadelphia LSAT resources or a Philadelphia-area study group?

Thanks!