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Hey all, I wanted to do this as a favor for people who have yet to take a real LSAT. Saturday was my 2nd real LSAT. I sat for the September 2016 and September 2017 tests. Obviously one of them is still EXTREMELY fresh in my mind while I've had a year to come to terms with the other. If you have questions on what I did for a the year in-between, how the test feels compared to practice, what the real test day entails, what the real test feels like, or anything else feel free to ask me!!!

I WILL NOT ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 2017 TEST*

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Last comment thursday, sep 21 2017

September LSAT Florida

I know LSAC is giving cancelled Florida LSAT takers the chance to switch to December for free, but are they rescheduling the September one? It is not clear on the website. If they are, is anyone just going to wait until they know the reschedule date to decide whether to switch to December? This is so frustrating studying without knowing when the test is :/

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Hey all,

I had a question about what someone applying straight out of undergrad should include in their resume. I've worn a lot of hats over my undergraduate career. I was originally Pre-Med, so I worked in two biomedical research labs during my freshman year. After realizing medicine was not for me, I spent a summer interning for an appellate court, and then my sophomore year working at a law school as an assistant event planner. Then my junior year I actually took 9 months off school to work on the presidential campaign.

My campaign work is definitely my biggest job, and the one I had the most "prestige" and "authority" in. It was also the largest commitment - while I worked only 15-25hrs/wk in previous jobs, I was working 80-100hr/wk on the campaign. Consequently, I want to devote more space in my resume to this campaign work.

That being said, what should an undergraduate include in their resume? I know the conventional wisdom is keep your resume to ONE page. Thus, space is a precious commodity. Should you include every job you held in undergraduate, or should you just pick the most important ones/relevant ones? I'm thinking of just removing the research labs from the resume, and only including work on the court onward.

Thanks all,

Paul

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Hi 7sagers! So I'm at a crossroads at the moment. I'm planning on attending law school in Fall 2020 when I'm 26, but I'm studying for the LSAT now and I've taken the most recent June test. I was planning on retaking the test for February 2018 and I've been using 7Sage for the past two months (which is AWESOME btw). I'm also aggressively paying off my student loans right now so I work two jobs. These loans are scheduled to be paid off in August 2018 as of now. I owe less than $18,000 and I started off at $25,311, so it's been working out pretty well.

My question is do you think it would be best if I paused my studying for the LSAT and take the November 2018 test instead so I can focus on paying down these loans faster by taking on a third job. With a third stream of income making at least an extra $100 a week, I think I can make it so I pay off my loans by May 2018. From there, I would study for the LSAT for six more months and take the test in November.

My reasoning behind this is working two jobs and trying to put my all in studying for this test is really tough. My second job is in catering so I often work 12-14 hours on Saturday and by Sunday, I don't want to move let alone study for several hours. Both of my current goals require time and by splitting this time between both of them, I don't feel as if I am optimizing my score as much as I know I can if I have the time to study. Another benefit of working in catering is that I can switch to on call hours where I basically am not scheduled to work unless the company really needs me so I can do that a couple of months before the test. This would allow me to dedicate my Saturdays to the LSAT once I paid off my student loans. Also since I won't be applying to law school until Fall 2019, taking the test in November 2018 wouldn't be too close to the application deadlines.

So what are your thoughts? Do you think this is a solid plan or do you feel like there is any pitfalls that I haven't taken into consideration? Thanks so much for your help!!

fyi: Before 7sage, I got a 153 on the LSAT. However, I have gone through the Logical Reasoning section of CC and my understanding has gotten so much better. I am aiming for a 160, but with a lot of hard work, this course, and blind review, I can surpass that. Thanks again!

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Last comment thursday, sep 21 2017

Studying while Tipsy...

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Hi all,

At the risk of embarrassing myself, I wanted to share something I learned. A few nights ago my husband and I had date night at Grapefest - Grapefest is an annual carnival in nearby Grapevine, TX where you can eat deep fried foods and drink wine for hours - I know, heaven right? Anyway, I came home still feeling buzzed from said wine drinking and decided to finish up the remaining 30 minutes of studying I promised to do for the day. I was studying 'Flaw' questions, the hardest of the hard for me, and this problem set happened to be the most difficult of the bunch. In my inebriated state, I started the questions assured I'd be completely off and get them all wrong but a strange thing happened: I was clear, focused and thoroughly understood each question and got all five correct in under 7 minutes.

As I sat there dumbfounded, checking each question (remember Flaw questions are my achilles heel) I realized what the difference was that night compared to my other study nights: I was drunk. And with drunkeness comes zero inhibition. I forgot all the little voices in my head that play negative thoughts when I'm studying :'this is too hard', 'you don't know the right answer', 'you suck at this', and I just studied with zero self-doubt and 100% confidence.

The lesson learned? - Drink a bottle of tequila before studying - just kidding. But find a way to release the self-doubt in your head during this process, it could just be that one thing keeping you from a 180.

*Disclaimer: I do not promote studying while intoxicated. This experience was only relayed to illustrate a point :-P

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Sorry if this has already been addressed. Does anyone know how much law school admissions weight an applicants undergrad prestige? I'm graduating from a state school thats ranked outside of the top 100. How much would that adversely affect my chances? My GPA is in the 75 percentile for all the schools I'm looking at, and I am waiting on my September LSAT.

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Application Questions

As probably many of you are, I'm turning my attention to my apps while I wait for my September lsat score. I've already got a couple things finished, like my resume and one addendum, but for the first time tonight I actually started looking through my target schools' applications to see what they ask for. I'm now a giant ball of stress, and I've got a few questions that I'm hoping some of you can help me on!

  • LORs: Some apps say they require 2 but accept 4, etc. Is it best to max out the allowable LORs or are they really just wanting 2?
  • Diversity Statement: I had planned to write a diversity statement, but after looking through the apps of the 9 schools I'm applying to, only two of them have an option for a diversity statement. So I'm guessing there's no way to submit a diversity statement for those schools that don't have an option?
  • Addendums: I have to write a character and fitness addendum because of a misdemeanor I got in college. I may also have to write an addendum on my lsat scores, seeing that my first score was abysmal, and I'm hoping my recent score will be significantly higher. On some apps, I noticed there's only one addendum option. Is there a limit on how many addendums you can write? Is more than one too many?
  • I'd love any feedback you all can provide. Thanks!

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    Last comment wednesday, sep 20 2017

    Florida Makeup

    Hey everyone,

    I wanted to see if anyone had received word about a September makeup for all of us in Florida still waiting to take the Sep. LSAT. LSAC said they would let us know by the end of this week, but I was just wondering if anyone had already gotten word.

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    Last comment wednesday, sep 20 2017

    Improving RC

    I am going through the curriculum and get about 1 wrong per passage. I usually complete a passage & its questions under 8.5 minutes. The low resolution summaries have been very helpful but I still get -1 per passage. I am just wondering if my results will improve overtime as I do more RC practices or should I do something else to improve my accuracy?

    What has been the biggest help for you?

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    Last comment wednesday, sep 20 2017

    Updating My Study Schedule

    Hey all,

    I am planning on taking the December LSAT and, with that date looming, I am really trying to break from the high/mid-160s and move into the 170s (and beyond!). I have been reading a bunch throughout these forums with regards to study schedules, but I haven't found anything that seems to be of much help to me.

    So, without further ado, I was wondering what you all suggest as my plan of attack? I have already completed the CC and done every logic game from 1 - 10, in addition to some PTests. I figured that I should try and tackle about a practice test every other day, with an intense BR session in between each test. Should I use PTests 11 - 35 to drill each section (RC is my weakest, but I could use improvement on everything, not to mention that I still have a bunch of tests I still have yet to see)? Or should I just take those as full PTests in addition?

    Thank you in advance for your help!

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    Hi!

    I'm based in Manhattan, and I'm interested in starting a study group for the upcoming December 2017 LSAT starting this week. I would like a group of people who already have a grasp of the fundamentals, but anyone is welcome.

    I'll be using materials mostly from 7Sage and Blueprint as well as the Powerscore Bibles. I welcome supplemental materials, if you'd think it would enhance our LSAT prep.

    Please contact me if you are interested, and I'll reply as soon as I can.

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    Last comment wednesday, sep 20 2017

    What is the "curve?"

    I've heard a lot of different things about a curve from the test. What exactly is the curve and does it drastically change the score? Anyone have any examples of the curve?

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    Last comment wednesday, sep 20 2017

    Admissions Analytics Website

    I remember coming across a site a few months ago where I could do some interesting admissions analytics. I don't remember the site, but do know the following:

  • It wasn't LSN
  • One of the pages listed applicants at the bottom (you had to really scroll down) and you could sort through them and they were color coded for decision.
  • I realize this isn't super helpful but for the life of me can't remember the site. So really any leads would be appreciated!!! Thanks!

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    I apologize if a few of you fine mentors have already told me when this group will start to gear up, and I know its really early days yet. But, I wanted to get a feel for my Summer full time & Fall part-time study plan with respect to at what point I should be at in my studies in order to join such a group. If I was told, it has totally slipped my mind---I'll write it down this time!

    I know I need to be done with CC and starting to PT with BR, and I know one jumps in whenever one reaches that numbered PT within the group's schedule, but I wanted to get a tentative long range game plan in place to find out how I can consistently join this highly recommended group study, whenever it starts.

    Plus, I'd like to find out if I'm just too slow and should not consider sitting for Dec '17 as a reasonable goal, or if I'm close to the target. I realize study pace is entirely individual, and I can guess June '17 (and September '17) dates and groups come first at the moment.

    But one question that keeps nagging at me, specifically: there are so many PTs, does the Study Group start at 36 or somewhere in the 50s (that's a totally random guess), or some other number, to reach the most recent & published LSAT by 1 week before test date?

    And, do the groups cover every single PT or just a sampling in each group of ten: # 40s, 50s, 60, 70s, & 80s.

    I thought this might help new 7Sagers get a long range game plan in place too.

    Thanks!

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    Hi All,

    I've been pretty good with setting up and reading conditional chains for in-and-out games but for some reason I'm really confused with the conditional chain for PT 34 S4 G4 (if you recall, it's about splitting six doctors to either the Souderton or Randsborough clinic).

    Here is the simplified version of the conditional chain for this game:

    ~N --> ~O --> J --> ~K --> P

    When I look at this, the minimum number of doctors that needs to be in the in group (Souderton) is two since we have two separate OR pairs (~O --> J and ~K --> P) as was asked in question 21 (and the correct answer was "two").

    So this is where I get really confused. If this is the logic we are using to interpret a minimum number of doctors, why can't the correct answer for question 19 (which asks for a complete and accurate list of doctors at Souderton) be E (N and P)? Why can't the ~N --> J pair be treated the same as ~O --> J? If we only have N and P, aren't we still good since we have at least one of N and J and one of K and P?

    I guess I am really confused as to how to correctly account for the OR pairs when there so many overlap between them in a particular chain like you see above? Thanks for your help in advance!

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-4-game-4/

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    Having a hard time deciphering answer choice D correctness. Particularly, i am not being able to get over my thinking that D assumes that marks were formed at the place where sandstone was formed. I mean, the marks were formed somewhere else and sandstone was moved to where it was find millions of years after the marks were formed let's say by an earthquake or stuff. Isn't it plausible?

    Also, why can't some "early life forms" from answer choice C can leave those marks?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-2-question-14/

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    Hi guys,

    I need some advice on the best and most effective way to study from now until the December exam. I just took the September exam. I know I will not be getting my ideal score. I didn't finish a section, and rushed two other sections...and this has never happened to me in the last month of PT'ing. So I want to take the December exam and execute my skills much better.

    In giving your advice, can you tell me if you think its a good idea to take a break? I have not started studying again since the Sept 16 test day. I don't want to lose my skills I worked so hard to nail down. I am thinking to start up again tomorrow.

    My other concerns are...not having enough new material. I have done PT 70-81, and I've definitely practiced a lot in the 60's so those PT's aren't completely new/blank for me either. I figure I will just start with the 60's anyways since its been a while since I've looked it them. Then next month the later 70-81 PT set should feel less familiar and I can do them over again...

    I will also do targeted drills. I plan to start doing at least one RC section a day because that's one of the sections I felt really rushed on this test.

    Any thoughts on this topic would be appreciated!!

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    I was curious about what the curve on the September LSAT would be. I began searching through recent tests to see if a test with easy LG ever had a -11 curve. Both 78 (-11 curve) and 76 (-12 curve) had their LG difficulty listed as "easiest" (1/5). This struck my as strange, because to me these games are more difficult than 81 which has its LG section listed as "easier"( 2/5). Are the ratings just assigned by someone or are they the result of averaging user's scores?

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    Last comment tuesday, sep 19 2017

    Curves on PT

    Does 7sage take into account the curve on tests when grading PTs? Also does Powerscore (if anyone knows)?

    Just curious!

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