I'm sure many of you have heard the recent story of Harvard rescinding offer letters to several students due to social media activity the administration deemed inappropriate. A few reports that stemmed from the news noted that many admissions reps turn to social media to learn more about their applicants and around 40% said it left a negative result on their application. Has anyone thought of completely deleting all of their social accounts prior to applying to law school just to be safe?

10/10

Genuinely could not have been a better environment. The entire group of test-takers was split into three subgroups (sounds like the start of a logic game). I can't speak to the conditions in the other room, but I assume logistically they were all the same.

Proctors: My room had two proctors. We got started right on time. They were professional, competent, and kind. They had a calming presence, which was much appreciated. One proctor kept time, the other handed out and collected materials. The timing was done perfectly -- consistent 5-minute warnings, and she used a silent digital timer, so I had no worry that we were being shortchanged on the timing.

Facilities: Bathrooms next door. AC was on but not excessive. Lighting was good. There was a clock in the room -- I used an analog watch with a bezel (makes tracking time much easier). There was a water fountain along with vending machines that you are able to access before the exam. My room also had access during the break -- not sure if others did as well.

What kind of room: Typical classroom. Fit 20 or so test takers very comfortably.

Desks: Full desks. Plenty big enough. I practiced using a huge desk and noticed no difference. Not those flimsy retractable chair desks.

Left-handed accommodation: Unclear

Noise levels: I have this theory of social settings that there perpetually exists one person who keeps any given environment from being perfect (e.g. the one person who talks at the movie theater, the one person at the library who talks on the phone during finals week, the one person who coughs throughout an exam (not that I blame them -- but they always exist)). This time...perfect silence. So silent, in fact, at times I felt awkward underlining because I worried it might distract people around me.

Parking: There's a roundabout when you pull into the university. Go into it and take the last right before the exit. You'll see signs. Parking is to the left, and the test is in a building to the right. It's less than a 5 minute walk.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: We get started right away. They split us into three groups at 12:30, and then we started filling out the logistical ovals around 12:35. Think we started Section 1 around 1.

Irregularities or mishaps: 0

Would you take the test here again? I hope I don't have to, but absolutely.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 12, 2017

By the wrath of the old gods and the new, they actually did it. Little did I expect when I woke up yesterday to be most psychologically traumatized not by Reading Comp or Logic Games, but by the blasted writing sample.

Using the writing sample to have us write about whether a brother of the Night's Watch should be allowed to renege on his vows -- a sick, treacherous ploy by those above us to erode our confidence in the protective blanket the Watch provides the realm.

Mark my words my brothers and sisters, there is a darkness in this world, more cold and tormenting than even the four-hour exam by the name of LSAT. Winter is coming, with or without the Watch. Without the brothers on the Wall, however, along with Winter so too will come an unending shadow, shrouding our hearts in unspeakable darkness.

To those who argued that oath-breakers should be forgiven (or, gods forbid, encouraged), may the Seven protect you from what is yet to come, and may I remind you of the words that each brother of the Watch swears, with both men and gods as his witness:

"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children, discuss any specifics about the June 2017 LSAT. I shall wear no digital watches and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the #2 non-mechanical pencil in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this exam and all the exams to come."

Did you argue against the Watch? I welcome any traitors to out themselves below.

Hey all,

How crazy strict is LSAC with the photos? Does it literally have to fill up every bit of that little square thing?

My photo is a professional headshot but when I uploaded it, it doesn't fill up the square thing.

I've been working through the Cambridge LR Flaw pkg and I've noticed that a good amount of the correct AC are E. Now before anyone jumps, I wouldn't go as far as to say choose E when in doubt on the question type. There are 284 questions in the pkg and E has been the correct AC enough for me to notice. Pretty useless info here but if I remember I'll give an exact number when I'm done. I believe the questions are from PT 1-38. I wonder if they say something like, "we'll go with E for flaws, C for MSS, A for MBT..." when determining which letter to select for the AC?? Again, this is pretty useless info and why did I hone in on it anyway?? Leave it up to me to be extra! LOL :)

Im having some trouble with this question so I chose A because I thought that this is what was needed to make the conclusion valid and I didn't choose B because it says " must encompass MORE than " and I took the conclusion to mean that physical theories couldn't explain consciousness in any manner, can someone help me please? TYA!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-37-section-2-question-05/

Proctors:

Friendly enough, spoke clearly and answered questions clearly.

Facilities:

The Test was downtown Grand Rapids, address clearly marked, easy to find from directions on Western's website.

What kind of room:

They split us by last name into 4 medium sized lecture halls on two different floors. Air conditioned, felt roughly 68 degrees, comfortable the whole time.

How many in the room:

35-40

Desks:

Continuous table with a space skipped between each test taker. More than adequate space for test booklet, answer sheet and gear. Chairs were adjustable and comfortable, more than satisfactory. Clearly visible clocks on either side of the room, Large enough to see hands and numbers easily.

Left-handed accommodation:

Yes

Noise levels:

Nothing from outside the room. I never noticed traffic, construction, train sounds, or anything like that. Just pencil scratching and occasional cough or sniffle.

Parking:

There's a free public parking ramp next door, which I only realized afterward Next building south on Commerce! :( Otherwise there is minimal metered parking on the street.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Check-in was at 12:30, I was in my car at about 5:45 So about 5 hours. Took a long time to get everyone check in and start the test, but once we started the proctors didn't waste any time.

Irregularities or mishaps:

NA

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again?

Certainly, planning to come September unless my score is shockingly high, haha

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

June 12, 2017

I just took this past June LSAT, and I'm trying to weigh my options. This might be excessively long, so I apologize in advance. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

This June LSAT really killed me. I started off with the LR experimental (which is arguably harder than usual) and then proceeded to the RC (which, like the LR experimental, is considered to be of elevated difficulty--coupled with the fact that RC is my worst section). By that time, my spirits were already crushed and I was feeling very uncertain about my performance. The only section I nailed was LG, which the general consensus is that it was ridiculously easy.

For the past several PTs that I've taken, I have been able to accurately predict my performance. The questions I mark for BR are the ones that I miss. On this test, however, I felt as though I was doubting every other question and had to blindly fill in the last 3-4 questions for each section (except LG) because of poor timing. I've been PTing in the mid 160's thus far.

I also wrote the Feb LSAT and scored a 162. In contrast to this exam, I was only hitting 158's during that prep. I felt pretty bad about that exam too, but it some how turned out significantly better than what was projected from my PTs. Whilst I'd like to hope that the same thing will happen for the June test, the fear of scoring the same (or worse) is terrifying to me. I'll be applying with a 3.92 GPA and am focusing my efforts on the lower T14 schools (Georgetown, Cornell, Northwestern, etc.).

In short, I'm trying to figure out what I should do. Either:

-Cancel my score and stick with my 162

-Cancel my score and try again in September (though I honestly don't know if I have the mental stamina to retake again)

-Keep my score with the hopes of doing better

And if I do keep my second score and it happens to be worse/ the same, how negatively does that impact my application to low T14 schools? Would a 3rd exam make up for it?

Thanks!

I have been with 7sage for about 2 1/2 weeks now and am 34 hours through the curriculum. That being said, is there a good time to start applying the 7sage principles to prep tests? I don't want to take prep tests and waste them since I have not conquered all of the material, but at the same time, I want to be applying what I learn.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thank you :)

Hi all!

So I need some clarifications...! Please help!

Contrapositive for "some" doesn't exist because it's reversible.

A (-s-) /B (Some A are not B) = /B (-s-)A (Some not B are A)

Right?

Then why do we have contrapositive for "if and only if" even though it's reversible? A (-) B = /A (-) /B

I know that A (-) B = A -> B + B -> A, so the contrapositive has to be /B -> /A + /A -> /B.

So my questions are as follows:

(1) Since the reasoning proves that contrapositive exists, does that mean that "Contrapositive for "some" doesn't exist because it's reversible" is wrong?

(2) When I am taking the contrapositive A (-) B (= A -> B AND B -> A), I say /A (-) /B because /B -> /A AND /A -> /B. In this case, why don't I change And to Or? I know I did the contrapositive, but I am starting to get confused...!

Thank you so much in advance!!!

So i am 13 PTs into foolproofing and i am noticing that i am solid with sequencing but i am having a hard time with grouping games, both in out and multiple groups. So i was considering drilling those extensively and then going back to drilling chronologically. I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to make a list of specifically fundamental in out and grouping games that they found to help them nail down the methodology and send it my way. Thanks in advance

Something that kept me up last night...my desk for the LSAT on monday was old and had a lot of divots in it and when I was filling out my answer sheet, my pencil slightly broke through the paper on two questions. It was just a little bit-- it wasn't like I completely messed up the entire bubble-- and I made sure to really darken the surrounding area. But I woke up last night worried that a) maybe the scantron wouldn't register those questions and b) I didn't make a mental note about which questions they were so I can't even email/call LSAC to let them know. Does anybody know how scantron grading works and whether this is actually a big deal vs. me being paranoid...

Hi all,

I've noticed the new LSAT's almost always contain a legal passage (as far as I can see; I haven't done all the PT's in the 70's). Any advice for legal publications that are close to the style of the LSAT for reading in my spare time?

For example, I know Scientific American is the "gold standard" for practicing the type of reading that will come up in the RC science passages. What should I read as a supplement to help with the legal passages?

Hey everyone, I have some idea about this topic but I was wondering what others think about this, and if anyone else had other insights or can help.

Since I graduated from my transfer school I technically graduated with two GPA's, one from my community college and one from my University. I graduated from a top university in California and was wondering how the admissions offices view my GPA as a whole.

Do they JUST look at my cumulative GPA cold? As in they just look at that and nothing else?

or

Do they consider also my last two years at the University that I graduated from?

My cumulative GPA is: 3.62

My last two years at my University I graduated from is: 3.75

I am a little unsure about how they read transfer GPA's.

Maybe other transfers can post similar stories and can get answers as well.

Thanks.

Hey all,

Wondering if you might have some opinions about this: I'm ideally looking to apply to schools in October, right after taking the September exam, and need to give my recommenders enough time to write their letters, which means asking them no later than, I'd say, mid-July. I'm fairly confident that I can raise my score to my goal number by September, but also don't want to risk asking for letters now and realize in August that I want more time to study. How would you say I handle this? One of my three recommenders offered to provide a recommendation first, so that's out of the way, but the other two are still up in the air.

Thanks!

Hey guys!

I'm finding that I'm still having trouble really intuitively knowing when my job in Parallel Method of Reasoning q's is to mirror the lawgic/structure of the argument, and when we're being asked to carry that train of thought/conclusion/principle into the answer choices (please don't say it's always about structure; maybe I'm not articulating what I mean correctly, but it's defintily 100% the case (after watching many many of JY's videos) that we're asked to carry the salient claim/reasoning into our selection of answer choice. (Ie. PT17.s2.q24 from Problem Set 3; or PT28.s3.q26 also from set 3).

The second q stem reads "which one of the following arguments is most similar in it's reasoning to the argument above?" Both answer choices seem to emphasize an especially strong match with part of the argument, not just a simple structural match...but the stems don't really do all that much to tell us that.

But after going through the practice sets in the curriculum, I can't seem to accurately/quickly distinguish whether paralleling the pattern of reasoning will refer to finding a parallel conclusion, or more broadly, overall parallel structure.

So sorry if this post sounds beyond confusing--I realize my attempt to articulate my struggle isn't great--but I'm just a little surprised that (if this issue really does exist, and I'm not just creating problems....happens) that it's not distinguished/discussed in the curriculum "as a thing".

N.

Similar to many of you, I suffer from bad test anxiety. If I don't get in the zone within the first 5 questions, I panic for the whole test, effectively snowballing. Really bad too. It's causing 10-15 point swings lately. When I'm chill, I can score 170+ pretty consistently. Otherwise, it's the Wild West.

I freeze up, don't even go through my strategies, and I just feel like this is my first test ever. Everything I've done goes out the window. I misread rules. I forget diagrams. Hell I can't even answer a main conclusion question. I don't understand it. I feel like I can provide an in depth explanation to a vast majority of questions and games. But sometimes, I just feel like I don't know anything. It affects me most on games too. Perhaps because I'm used to finishing every game in less than 6 or 7 minutes. So when I don't, I panic and just move on. This happened during my September test and I scored 9 points below my average.

I've tried meditation, I work out 3x a week, and feel like my balance is pretty good with friends and family. But none of that seems to be helping much. All of this so weird to me. I'm not an anxious person whatsoever.

I was hoping for any guidance. I know this is different from most posts but at the same time, I feel that mental state is something that is sometimes over looked. But again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi everyone, as a person who doesn't speak English as a mother tongue, I would like to ask one very basic question of how to interpret certain sentence(I think it is a grammar question..)

"The colonials and the English had differing interpretations of the language and institutional structures that they shared"

In this case, it seems to me that it could be interpreted in two different ways

Is the only solution to look at the context to understand in right manner? or is there a rule to understand this kind of sentence structure?

Thanks in advance!

Sat for the exam yesterday. It went pretty well, but you never know with these things. Do people generally register for the September exam and then just withdraw if they get the score they were aiming for? Will the testing centers probably fill up by the time we get our scores back? If I sign up now and then withdraw, do I get a refund / will it show up on my LSAC report?

Thanks!

Hey, guys! I'm starting to work on my app process and I wondering if I should or how to write a DS? I was recently diagnosed with a cognitive disability. I haven't been in school since 07 so I haven't really had to deal with it in a learning setting but def at work and everyday situations. I also didn't have the issue until after I completed undergrad. Can or how can I write a DS statement if I haven't had to deal with the issue in a learning setting? Or, am I not looking at it the right way? Also, do you think that DS around learning disabilities hint that the writer may have received accommodations? I know we don't really know, but do you think this would help or hurt? Any suggestions are welcomed! TIA

Hi all!

I'm about 40% completed with the core curriculum, and am already getting the hang of the easiest questions sets... should I start doing some harder questions from the question bank now or completely finish the CC first before going back and reviewing harder questions after I'm done?

I took the LSAT yesterday at the University of Delaware. They had us sit in an auditorium, and the only desk space we had were those small side desks that you often find at the side of auditorium seats. There was not enough space to even lay out the entire test booklet, let alone the the answer sheet. You would think that LSAC would ensure that testing centers are adequate for test takers. These testing conditions were particularly difficult for the LG section, which requires a lot of writing in the test book, and looking back to another page, where the main diagram is.

Hey y'all

I'm going to retake in September, and for the last two weeks I've been chipping away at Logic games from PT 1-15. However, I've seen marginal, if any, improvements. When I foolproof them, I can get perfect on the entire section with 10 minutes left, but the moment I see a fresh set I go -6 to -9. I planned on spending a total of a month straight on LG, but my patience and determination is waivering.

Now that I've given you background, please read my questions: 1. Any particular LG sets you think will help me for the most recent tests? 2. Should I go back and do the LG portion of the CC? (haven't done it since last summer) 3. How to maximize what I learn from the Fool Proof Method (i.e. what questions do you ask yourself/what do you observe about the LG set)

Thank you

Hey everyone!

I just got through the CC and am moving on to fool proofing the games. I am hoping to foolproof about 3-4 games per day depending on difficulty using the @pacifico method. As of right now, I am sorting the LG's into a binder and was wondering how you ended up sorting it. I'm conflicted on whether or not to sort them chronologically and foolproof them in that order; or if I should sort them by category/difficulty in order to cement in pattern recognition.

What do you guys think?

Hi,

For me, the toughest part of the test has always been not letting my brain get tired from analyzing minutia and subtleties over and over... and over and over. I scored best on PTs when an LG section broke up LR and RC. I kind of think of LG as a "break" or a mental energy boost. Yesterday the LSAT hit some of us with LR, RC, LR right out of the gate. I was fine with the first LR (experimental :/) and the RC, but mentally gassed by LR #2. So, my question: Does the LSAC take section order into account when standardizing? Like, if the average score for takers who had the above order is 4 questions less than those with a different experimental section, is that considered? In a test where mental stamina is potentially the most important factor, not doing so would strike me as a little unfair.

Thanks!

Taylor