"The only songs A has written are B songs and PR songs"

(PT73.S4.21. https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-21/)

I translated the sentence as:

A --> B

A --> PR

(A --> B and PR)

But then I realized it has to be "a song A has written has to be B or PR".

A --> B or PR

I was able to pick the correct answer choice for this question, but I don't know which is the right translation.

Any help will be appreciated! :)

Hi! So I have a question on timing, should I time myself while Im drilling different logical reasoning questions and then time myself when I do PTs or should I time myself for the logical reasoning questions as well as the PTs. The reason I am asking is that I know some questions will take longer than others so I don't really know what standard time to give myself for each question if I were to time myself. Thank you so much in advance!

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I know I am not alone. I know others are just as busy, if not more busy, than I am. So I'm looking for advice on how I can get more study time in with the LSAT. I want to know what people do to motivate themselves after a long day at school or work. How can I ensure that I am giving myself enough time to absorb what is required of me. Everyone says in order to improve on the LSAT you have to put in the time. I really want to, but life circumstances seem to really make that difficult. So, before it is to late, what can I do to change. I am shooting for the September LSAT.

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Hi all! Thought I’d share something I found helpful/necessary during my studying. I started the core curriculum during the last week of January as I planned to take the September test. According to my original study schedule, I was supposed to start PTing around April 1st. From the end of January to April 1st, I had not completed the foolproof method for Logic Games and I felt that I should not (with some advice from @"Alex Divine" on another post) start PTing until I had done so. Naturally, I was apprehensive to push back the PTs because I wanted to finish all of them before the September test, however, by doing all the Logic Games, I feel like I am infinitely more prepared to start PTing than I was before. The fool proof method works wonders and I highly recommend doing all Logic Games before PTing. Also, rushing through to get every PT done instead of doing comprehensive BR and really learning from the mistakes is just a waste of time. I originally tried a different study schedule from another prep company that had you doing four PTs a week which is ridiculous! If you don’t learn anything from a PT and apply it to the next, then why do it at all. Hope this helps anyone who was or will be in the same situation I was in!

This guy JY shifts from a correct CBT answer choice to a MBT answer choice in the question straight after. I understand why some of the elements might be fixed in certain positions for the GLQ arrangement on Team 1 in Q23, but wouldn't you have to test all of them to make sure they must be true?

Sure, for Q24, G & K are positioned in the same way as they are for the correct answer on Q23 (E: L and Q). I get that. How would you know that every other element in that setup must be true? I could understand one noticing one as you're going through the setup on Q23 but this approach doesn't seem like it would hold true in all scenarios.

I understand why the answer is right, but this approach just seems a little sketchy. I don't know how you can say something that could be true also must be true. You would have to test it to make sure unless you knew from the setup.

would it be a good strategy to do back to back practice tests to help build my endurance? I wouldn't do this tactic for PT 36 and up because those are too valuable and I want those to be as realistic as possible. But say I did PR 6 and 7 just back to back in one sitting? While that would be mentally draining I think it would help my mental endurance overall. Thoughts? (I would

Do BR afterwards on PT6 and 7 of course)

Hi all I was wondering if anyone else had this experience. I just finished the PT's from PT's 42-51 (the red book) and I was averaging about 18-20 on LR. I just started PT's 62-71 (Purple Book) and I have done pretty terrible on the first four LR sections. Is there a huge increase in difficulty between the two books? Or am I just getting a bit burnt out? Or could it be something completely different? Not really sure what to make out of the situation. I was really confident before starting this book, but I am feeling really un sure of my skills now.

How have your scores improved from your first post-curriculum PT (not diagnostic)? i.e. how much have you benefited from the process of taking PT's and BR?

Really - how do you "know"? I feel as though I will never be ready.

If anyone else has experienced anything even remotely similar to me, some advice would be very welcome. For context, here's my test-postponement/study history: (Also, if you just want to skim to the main questions, go down to the last paragraph and ignore most of this.)

I started studying for the December LSAT last October. I was teaching Comp 1 at a local university, taking a full load of graduate level courses, and studying for the LSAT roughly 30 hours a week. I figured out pretty quickly given my chaotic/busy schedule I would need a LOT longer than just Oct-Dec to take the LSAT. So I postponed until February. I quit my job at the university, took a leave of absence from the grad school, and began working part time at a library. I promised myself if by 4 weeks before the February LSAT I wasn't scoring a 155+, I would postpone until June. The one month mark came along and I scored a 154. So guess what? I postponed.

Now as June approaches, I am just not sure if I am "ready." I know I have a month to pull up my scores, but my diagnostics are not consistently in a place I'm willing to accept. About five weeks ago I climbed up to a 163 (my goal being a 167), but then my scores consistently fell. First the score went down to a 162 (no big deal, right?), but then over the course of 5 weeks my scores fell until I was barely above my diagnostic score from last fall. After that lowest diagnostic two weeks ago, I was so discouraged and disheartened I couldn't even look at my desk strewn with LSAT prep materials; it was too depressing. I took off an entire week, binged on Netflix, at ice cream, cried as much as I needed to, and otherwise avoided the LSAT. After my week off, I studied and drilled, and then finally took at practice test yesterday (Sunday). I scored a 156 on that exam, (raw score 72, missing 28 wrong), and a 158 on the Blind Review.

Maybe I should be happy with the score going up (even if it's not as high as it once was), but here's the thing: the logic games skewed my score. In the June 2007 exam, I have previously drilled on all the logic games in all the prep material I've covered over the past months. I did really well on it, but I don't think it's an accurate indicator of how I would actually do on exam day. On the LR section, I only did better than the previous test by 2 questions. That's TWO questions more I got right than the score that sent me into a week of LSAT induced depression. Even though my score rose, I don't think it's a "real" indicator, and that freaks me out a little. I know I can postpone until September, but the idea of putting off the LSAT yet again (and missing the noon test time) fills me with dread.

I'm trying to relax, stay healthy, exercise, stay positive, etc., but I also know I shouldn't take the LSAT unless I'm ready. But, will I ever FEEL ready? How many practice tests should be in/above my ideal LSAT score range before I decide to bite the bullet and take the real thing? I've read I should wait until 10 practice tests are at/above my score range, but I know that won't happen between now and June 12th. But I've also read that lots of people pull up their scores a lot in the last month (by 10 points, even) so not to give up hope until like a week out from test day.

Someone please give me some sagely advice. I need it, dangit.

Many logic games utilize alphabet orders to differentiate a variable set (ex) say, variable set 1 consists of JKLM and 2, NOP...etc) but I often confuse which alphabet belongs to which variable set. For example, when I think of the variable N, I have to look back and forth my main diagram and the variable to see where N belongs. This is an incredible waste of time.

I am trying to memorize the alphabetical order so well to the point that, when I see a variable, I know exactly where in the variable set it belongs. To add to my dismay, I've learned Russian in college, and I sometimes confuse Russian with English alphabet. For example, in Russian, "r" is pronounced similarly to "g." Sometimes, without even being aware of it, I would write down g in the main diagram instead of r...

Anyways, does anyone have tips for quickly categorizing and memorizing which alphabet belongs to which variable set? (other than memorizing the alphabetical order again)

Looking to hear your ideas. Thank you!

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Whenever i input my practice LSAT scores after doing BR... do i plug in my blind review answers even if i didn't change my original answer? Or do i only input BR answers if my answers change? I only ask because its a pain to put in the BR answers for every answer when its not necessary. Thanks!

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Is there a LG bundle on the site somewhere for the newer tests (say, tests 59+) that we can print like the 1-35 LG bundle?

Hi! for each question ill use a pencil and factor in what each question wants me to into the diagram and then erase and move on to the next problem but I feel as though that is wasting a lot of time but Im having trouble with visually placing the new information in or figuring out the questions alone without diagramming them, does anyone have any advice to get rid of the penciling in factor? Thank you so much in advance!!!!

Hello 7sagers,

I am thinking of doing free reading comprehension tutoring by using passages from older practice tests. Let me know if any one of you is interested in joining me.

I do want to put it out there that I am doing this primarily for my own good because RC happens to be my weakest section. My average for LR is -1.5 but RC is -5 at the moment. So I need to focus on that and one really good way to improve on RC is to go over it with someone.

So if you are struggling with RC and would like to work on this with me, I would be happy to help. But if you are doing well on RC and would still like to just work on it with me let me know as well. I think either way this could be helpful to everyone who just wants to work on improving their reading comprehension skills.

So yes : ) Let's tackle RC!

Update:

Hey everyone,

So I think the best way to proceed would be to just meet and do a passage together. We can rotate volunteers when we go to the next paragraph and then we can all do the questions together under time constraint. So with that said, I have set the tutoring time to be Sunday, May 7th at 5:00 p.m. (eastern time).

We will be using the Reading Comprehension section from PT #3. So please have a clean printed copy of the RC section in front of you and be ready to work on it as we go along. To get the most out of this session, please do not do the passages before the meeting. I think the best way to do this would be to work on this together.

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What can I do to be able to decide after offer and not affect chances next year?

Hello:

During blind review, I find myself getting the correct answer on many "difficult" questions because I moved on when I found what I figured out to be the right answer. This technique has helped me go past questions that aren't that difficult but do present with well written wrong answers. Any thoughts from the community?

So I have gone through the entire course and I would say it has helped greatly, before when I would do a LR section I would be getting 14-15 right untimed. Now untimed (which generally takes me 45-50 minutes) I am seeing improvements where I usually end up with 20 right (I always do BR, where I choose to keep or change my answers, so sometimes ill hit 20 with changed answers sometimes i'll hit 20 without changing any answers). I have noticed though that I am consistently atleast -5 to -6 wrong on my LR sections untimed. I have also realized that flaw, parallel and Resolve reconcile explain give me the most trouble. What do I need to do to greatly increase my score on untimed sections? I have reviewed the flaw, causation and parallel sections on 7sage. Does this just come with continued practice and extensive review on untimed LR? and once I am seeing these improvements on untimed tests, how will I begin to increase my speed? Should I be doing blind review on every single question after I do a section or just the questions that posed me difficulty?

I wrote the December LSAT and scored a 151, due to bombing the logical reasonings sections. I am writing in September 2017 and will spend however many hours necessary in order to increase my accuracy and speed on logical reasoning.

Hi All,

This question gave me some issues during my timed take and BR. I'm hoping to talk through it and get someone else's perspective.

We are given a set of facts and we are asked which one of the ACs can be properly inferred.

So, if the scientists are correct, we have this chain of events here:

Air pollution caused global warming, which enhanced the strength of El Nino which caused the widespread drought, which made the tropics especially susceptible to fires.

I don't have an issue with eliminating A, B and C.

D gave me a bit of an issue though. Is D incorrect because it specifies "size and intensity" rather than mere occurrence? For example, if D said "At least some scientists believe that air pollution was responsible for the susceptibility of the tropics to fires in 1997," would that be correct? Or is there something else I am missing here?

I also considered the possibility that D could be wrong because D prescribes a believe to a group of people (some scientists) that might not have been something they were even aware about. For example, the stimulus states a belief of many scientists that have to do with El Nino, global warming and air pollution, NOT the fires. The fire in the tropics is a separate occurrence that the scientists may or may not be aware of. So, due to the mere lack of knowledge, the scientists could believe that air pollution was responsible for the strength of El Nino, but because we do not know the extent of the scientists' awareness of the fires, we cannot infer that they would have any beliefs about the fires. Belief presupposes knowledge of the subject of that belief, right? So it could be the case that, if the scientists were aware of the fires that they would infer a causal relationship, but we are not told that they are aware.

I can't tell if this is me taking this question wayyyy too far and overthinking it, but I would love to know what anyone else's grounds are for eliminating D.

Thanks in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-20/

Hey folks, is anyone here who is taking the LSAT with English as their second language interested in learning together? I've been hearing more inquiries about study strategies for people who encounter a significant language barrier with the test. Let's use this thread for ESL students to connect and see how much interest there is, in addition to sharing helpful strategies with each other.