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Last comment thursday, apr 13 2017

"Misreading"

Hi All,

I would love to get some feedback from you guys about how you approach the issue of "misreading" questions in any of the sections, but specifically LR. I heard once (probably from someone on here...can't remember) that you are doing yourself a great disservice if you realize you got a question wrong because you misread the question, but just chalk it up to a careless mistake and you do not take it seriously enough to address the issue properly.

I'm wondering how to "address the issue properly." I have had this issue more times than I would like to admit. I will take a PT timed and end up really struggling with a question, only to return to it during BR and get it correct in 30 seconds because I realized I was misreading something crucial. Like for example, as I first read PT58.S4.Q15, I could not for the life of me figure out what was going on, mainly because I didn't know what types of "proofs" they were referring to. Film proofs? Printing proof? During my BR, I reread the question and recognized immediately that they were talking about math proofs and I was like "Man...how do I train myself to recognize that this quickly during the timed test?"

Sometimes my misreadings are less content based and more structure based. For example, on the same test mentioned above, for question PT58.S1.Q21, I missed this question because I did not register the word "not" in the last segment of the argument. None of the ACs made sense to me due to the fact that I missed such an important part of the argument because of careless reading. I want to chalk it up to an endurance/attention span issue, but there has to be a way to train myself out of this carelessness. I don't want to be overly cautious at the expense of my confidence, but I would love to eliminate the avoidable mistakes. I have no intentions of getting questions wrong on the real test that are within my reasoning capabilities to answer.

Thanks in advance!

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Is it always the case that if an argument for a sufficient assumption question has descriptive premises with a normative conclusion (saying one should do something or ought to do it) then the answer choice must have normative language to close that gap?

Looking at PT 22, Section 4, Q13 and PT 62, Section 2, Q17, I can see many reasons to eliminate the other incorrect answer choices besides them lacking the normative language. However, I'm still hesitant to skip straight to the answer choices that say "should" because I'm still not sure if you need the word "should" or similar language to close the logical gap between the conclusion and premises. Is normative language in the answer choice always necessary to prove a normative conclusion when the premises don't have it?

Thanks!

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I'm currently studying for the LSAT in June, but I'm wondering if I should take it in September. I'm working full time, and I think it would just give my more time to do some PTs. I was wondering if I'll have my score back in time to apply early enough in the application cycle to get some scholarship? Just curious. Thank you guys for being so helpful!

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Last comment thursday, apr 13 2017

Blesssings in Disguise

So, I've been battling with the idea for the past two weeks to either take the LSAT in June or take it in September. I have not been feeling ready at all for the test and I want to get the best score possible. Today, I went to log into the LSAC page to see what testing centers are available... well looks like ALL of the Philadelphia locations were booked. A little blessing in disguise I'd say.... (although I know I can just take it somewhere else).

To be honest I'm actually excited about this! I feel like I'm just starting to grasp things and was hating the pressure I was putting on myself. This way, come September I'll feel full on ready :)

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Last comment wednesday, apr 12 2017

GPA Question

Hi,

Was wondering how big of an impact a 3.65 GPA is vs a 3.66 GPA is for Law schools. I'm debating if I should take an extra class to raise my GPA, but I also want to make sure that I can get straight A's, not stress out too much, and study a little for the LSATs when I dont have midterms or finals. I'm kind of wondering what you guys think if taking the extra class is worth the headache?

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Last comment wednesday, apr 12 2017

Score plateaued

Sadly, my score has plateaued in the mid-high 150s range. I was in the 160s so I'm pretty discouraged. I've been studying for 7 months and take the exam in June. Any advice about how to get out of a score slump? I've worked through power score books, fox's prep, and used manhattan prep to pull up my logic games score.

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I wanted to share a strategy that's been working for me.

When I do BR, my question isn't "am I comfortable with this question?". My question is rather, "did I tackle this question in the most efficient way possible?" Because in a lot of cases, I might be comfortable with a question, have gotten it right, but have spent way more time than needed. Also, there's usually a reason why I spent more time than needed: I might be lacking some crucial skills.

I time myself not just the overall time spent on a section, but the time I took for each question. If I thought a question was easy, but spent over 1:25+, I didn't solve that question as efficiently as possible. If the reason, for example, is because I didn't identify the conclusion in the most precise way and had to go back to the stimulus, that tells me that I still need to work on identifying the conclusion precisely. I need to improve on that skill.

So here's what I do.

  • Did I tackle this question in the most efficient way possible?
  • Why didn't I ? Where did I spend too much time?
  • What does that mean? What skill might I need to improve on? (be specific with the skill: need to pay more attention to the logical indicators, need to identify the conclusion correctly...etc)
  • After writing down the skill needed to solve the question more efficiently, compile them and try to find a general trend. What skill do I need to work on in general?
  • Before starting the next PT, write down on the section: pay special attention to this skill as I am tackling this PT.
  • Repeat

    I think this helps me to

  • Identify and consciously focus on the skills that I need to work on
  • Care more about building the right habits and skills than getting the questions right or wrong
  • minimize gap btw the actual score and the BR score, because I am mastering the techniques to be efficient during the actual exam.
  • GRANTED, there are still some questions that I have absolutely NO IDEA about even after BR.

    Those require the most analysis.

    But usually my actual and BR scores are pretty similar.

    FYI tho, this strategy takes A LONG TIME in the beginning. Sometimes I take 3~4 hours BRing a single section. But I think it's worth it.

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    As I progress through the course, I watch the video explanations for my BR and star them for review. But I'm having trouble finding them all conveniently. Is there a page I'm unaware of that shows all video explanations which I've starred?

    Also, apologies if this is not the proper place to post this question : )

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    Last comment tuesday, apr 11 2017

    Re-drilling questions

    I am afraid I will use up all my LR questions while drilling in the span of 7 months. Is drilling questions already drilled beneficial. If not, any suggestions? I have the power score question type workbook that I use as well as 7Sage drill questions.

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    Hey, guys. Has anyone noticed any funky games such as this one in recent PT? JY said don't worry but there seems to be a trend of the older style games coming back. How would I ever know to draw a freaking star?!! I'm sure it could be solved other ways. I just did a single layer sequencing game board but of course, JY's way was much easier to see. This game def took me more than 11 mins!

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-2-game-4/

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    Just curious. I would like to take the September LSAT, so I don't intend on needing it more than 4.5 - 5 months. However the two most expensive courses list extra levels of difficulty in the "problem sets." Do you all think the extra money is worth it for those problem sets, or will the fundamental teachings and practice tests be enough?

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    Last comment tuesday, apr 11 2017

    Celebrate with me!

    I thought I had burned through nearly all tests last year during prep, but I just took inventory and I have 18 remaining!!!

    Wow, I've never been so happy to be so wrong.

    Side note: @"Dillon A. Wright" do we have access to the bundle for RC? I only see LR and LG. Thanks

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    Last comment tuesday, apr 11 2017

    Criminal Background

    Im nervous that my past is going to haunt me while pursing law school and taking the bar. I had a minor consumption at 19 and public intox at 21. I had a driving suspended when I was 16 for some insurance problem that I had no idea about. Am I screwed? I am 28 now

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    Hey Guys,

    I am wondering what you guys do with the questions/sections that you missed (due to time, etc) when doing BRM. For example, if you did not answer 10 questions do you circle them all and come back to them like you would normally the 2nd time around?

    Would they still count towards your BRM score?

    Thanks for the help!

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    Most beers in are cans. Most cans contain beer.

    Conclusion: The number of beers is not greater than double nor fewer than half the number of cans.

    B (---most---) C

    Conclusion: 1/2C < B < 2C

    Most cans contain beer. Most beers are in cans. Most beers contain alcohol.

    Conclusion: Some cans contain alchohol.

    C (---most---) B ---Most---> A

    Conclusion: C some A

    Let me know if you think this makes sense. Thanks!

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    I just worked through PT 44.4.20 and noticed the flaw traced to the lack of support between the premise and sub-conclusion. This is the first time I've encountered a question where the flaw hasn't been between the sub-conclusion and main conclusion. Is this common in other types of question, or does the LSAT usually focus on Sub-Conclusion to Main Conclusion flaws?

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    Hi!

    I am planning to apply to law schools this upcoming cycle and was wondering if anyone could give me advice. I know that I primarily want to practice Environmental Law and have been doing a lot of research on which schools would be best. The top environmental law programs according to the US News rankings are not always T14 schools. I have been reading that to get a good Environmental Law job (working for EarthJustice, NRDC etc.) they often hire from T14 schools. Does anyone have any advice on if I should focus on only T14 schools or schools that rank highest in my area of interest?

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    Found this earlier and it's working quite well so far. I've been dealing with birds and landscapers for the last couple days, and I know I'm not the only one with this problem.

    But if any hunters want to come deal with the bird that flies in to my windowpane at 3PM everyday, feel free to swing by. Very bizarre, annoying phenomenon.

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    Couldn't we make the inference that only R and Z can be in slot 1? I was going to split the board on those but realized I didn't have enough info. I quickly eliminated A on question 1 without second thought because I scanned to eliminate any AC that didn't start with R or Z. JY didn't mention it and no one mentioned it in the comments. Am I missing something?

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-2-game-1/

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    Hi everyone ! I signed up to take the powerscore live class for the October lsat and I'm wondering if anyone here has taken it before ? I've written the lsat twice and exam anxiety got the best of me the last time... 7 sage has been really helpful so far but I'm determined to get in this cycle and I think that an in-person class would be helpful.

    If anyone's taken it before, do you have any tips/recommendations ? I scored in the 140 the first time I wrote it (I was 18 and didn't study at all), and the second time I Had an anxiety attack in the middle of the exam because I thought I filled the bubbles in wrong.

    I know that it's an exam you need to learn and not study and I'm slowly trying to shift gears into thinking that way this time around. But if anyone has taken the powerscore exam while using the 7sage course I would love your thoughts and how/if doing both programs together helped your score.

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