Trying to decide whether it is worth it to go to a T-8 in US or stay in Canada to go to UBC; sitting on a good offer from T-8, admission but no $ from UBC. Am a dual citizen, and want to practice in public interest or move into legal academia; no biglaw aspirations.

For the past month or two I've been averaging between a 164-167 actual score and between a 172-175 blind review score on the PrepTests, both older and newer. It seems like I've tried and done everything to improve my actual score up to the BR numbers, but nothing really changes, any advise would be much appreciated.

https://today.law.harvard.edu/gre/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=hls-twitter-general

I wonder how many other schools will make this change and how soon.

This is probably a dumb question but is timing of response indicative of a better outcome or just of a glut of applicants?

For instance, if I am waiting on a school for a couple of months, does that mean I am still in play or could it basically mean anything?

Exactly 3 months till gameday people... Good luck to everyone. Time to turn on the jets, hopefully everyone maintains their momentum, and remember...

There's always September haha

Hi all!

Question regarding a LOR from a professor I am currently taking. To ask or not?

Background info: Major is Psychology with emphasis in Law and Criminal Behavioral Applications and minor in Legal Studies. GPA is 3.9

I am planning to apply in Fall 2017 and have already secured one LOR with my criminal law prof and am banking on that being a great one considering she offered to write it before I even asked. I plan to ask my advisor as well, who I have also had for two upper division classes, both received As in. I have another prof that I have right now that I am considering asking after the semester is over. I believe I will finish very well in her class. All of her comments on my assignments have been awesome. However, she's my Child and Adolescent Development professor. Should I not ask her because this class is so heavily psychology related and can't really directly be applied to law? The other two professors taught classes that were related (Criminal Law, Criminal Psychology). What do you guys think?

Hi all,

I apologize in advance if these are silly questions. What is the difference between drilling and taking a full Prep Test? How do you know which you need to do more of? Is drilling more for the days you get off work & school and are totally wiped out, so save the full PT for the weekend? Is drilling better for the older PTs? or? I am currently still in the Core Curriculum but I wanted to clarify my understanding before I finished the curriculum and started regularly doing PTs.

Thank you in advance!

Heyy guys, anyone in the Houston area, studying for June/Sept willing to meet up for practice preptest or study sessions. I am have a difficult time staying motivated, I NEED A BUDDY/BUDDIES.

Does anyone happen to know when registration for this Sept's LSAT starts?

I must check it at least every other day haha.

Update: LSAC says in May

I defer one year and apply for 2018. If I ask for LOR now, are they accessible for next year application?

http://www.npr.org/sections/deceptivecadence/2017/03/06/518777865/the-most-practical-tips-for-practicing-according-to-science?utm_term=music&utm_content=buffer54e22&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

The presentation is actually about physical practice, but I see a lot of overlap with Sage suggestions and also just common sense. Don't expect to learn anything here that will remarkably alter your habits (unless you have awful habits lol), but let it serve as a reminder that quality practice is more important than quantity.

I personally figured it out when I was in 7th grade. A kid tried to extort my lunch money from me in my math class. I ended up writing a contract with him stating how much I would give him per day and I even had him co-sign the agreement. A day later I told him that if he tried anything like that again, I'd take the contract to the principal. Worked like a charm.

The funnier the better.

When did you guys start if you don't mind..

I bet this has been asked before, but as June gets closer, I'm wondering if I should give myself the summer and put off the LSAT until September 16. My only issue is that I plan on applying to T14 schools this application cycle (this Fall), and I'm worried that the rolling admissions process of most schools won't work in my favor if my score isn't available until October. Any thoughts? I would hope to have the rest of my application completed by the time my score was available. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Hey guys!

I was wondering if anyone was interested in forming a study group for the June 2017 LSAT?! I live in BC, willing to meet up in Vancouver area. This way we can PT together and help one another in setting a real study schedule.

Let me know if you are interested!

Hello! I don't know if it's kosher to ask for guidance on this subject so if it isn't...please ignore. But I got invited via email for a video interview with Cornell law! I'm freaking out! I have no idea what to expect or what to think will happen but...does anyone have any pertinent advice to this kind of interview and how to prepare? There's no deadline...no information included....I guess I'm going to just do my research (especially on Cornell!) today and dive into the interview some time tomorrow when I'm at home and hope for the best?

Hi. I've been studying for the LSAT since July, and since I completed the curriculum about a month ago, I'm having a very hard time setting an effective, dedicated routine.

I am not employed and my schedule is completely open. I usually wake up around 8 or 9, meditate, run, eat breakfast and then read for an hour before starting. Then I'll BR a logic game from the day before, drill a new one, and then watch a webinar or study the curriculum to focus on my weak spots. And then I BR an LR drill from the previous day and do a new one.

I did very well with the LR sections in the PTs offered with the curriculum, but I think they were retakes or some of the questions were used in the curriculum, because my scores on 45-48 have not been nearly as good. Went to from -3 avg. o -6, and I'm drilling LR every day. No days off. I did a PT a couple weeks back after finishing the curriculum and got around a 168 (target is 175), but again it was a PT with some questions I was familiar with. The LR questions I'm currently missing aren't really a specific type, though I'm having trouble with flaw questions regularly and sometimes it's hard to identify conditional statements.

So now I'm planning on doing one PT a week for the next month and then bumping it up to two a week in April. What would be an effective way to use my time during those days between PTs. My blind reviews take up a lot of time, and I don't know how and what to study in the time I'll have left after that.

Attended the post-curriculum seminar already. Please help. I do not want to waste all of this time that I know I could be using more wisely. I'm testing with accommodations, 50% time. I usually dedicate around 6 hours a day to studying, and my scores are not reflecting much improvement, though I'm up a little bit from the 158 I got in December.

I was hoping that I could get some group thought capital on timing of taking these tests. Background is as follows - I am a (much) older non-URM who is planning on doing a joint JD/MBA. I was planning on doing the LSAT first, then taking the GRE based on advice from Pacifico in June, 2016. I have a couple of years on that schedule before I can start school, so that would give me enough time to give LSAT a year, and GRE 6 months. Spivey mentioned that I need top scores to get into a top place or there is very little chance I can get return on investment with the years left in my career.

Now, with the announcement that Harvard is accepting GRE in hopes of attracting more STEM type candidates, I am wondering if I should take the GRE first? I would hope that enough other T14 schools follow Harvard in the next year or so to give me a decent list of places to apply to. Perhaps I could avoid having to take the LSAT, which I am finding very tricky. I have education and significant work experience in 2 of the STEM fields.

If I could get a high GRE and use that for both law and business school, I could cut my wait to start by perhaps a year.

What would you do?

Thanks for your thoughts.

I was deathly afraid to take my first PT. Happened to line up on my birthday on the weekend.

I didn't take a diagnostic and this was my first PT after going through the curriculum.

Thankfully, I got a 161. My second was a bit lower; but I'm still optimistic. Not sure where my ceiling in terms of score so I'm just gonna work as hard as I can until June and see what comes out of it.

Thanks 7sage.

I find that the LR section tests four fundamental aspects:

I. Our ability to make inferences

Which it tests through Most Strongly Supported, Must Be True, Must Be False, and Necessary Assumption questions.

II. Our ability to support an argument

Which it tests through Strengthen, Pseudo Sufficient Assumption, Sufficient Assumption, and Principle questions.

III. Our ability to weaken an argument

Which it tests through Weaken and Flaw questions.

IV. Our ability to recognize structure

Which it tests through Main Point, Argument Part, Method of Reasoning, Parallel Method of Reasoning, and Parallel Flawed Method of Reasoning questions.

(Miscellaneous: Resolve Reconcile Explain and Point at Issue).

Organizing question types this way helps me see the bigger picture of the section instead of approaching each type independently and getting bogged down in the weeds of the particular type. Look at how much sense it makes to test these things for aspiring law students and how fundamental these are to being a lawyer and practicing law in the future. Each question is a symptom of something larger and each question you get wrong is a question that's exploiting some weakness in your fundamentals. With this framework, you can better identify and track the fundamentals you're deficient in. For example, instead of just seeing that I miss an inordinate amount of Pseudo Sufficient question types, I now see that I'm missing something fundamental about my ability to support an argument. Now I can focus on the fundamental aspects of this shortcoming and I can complement my Pseudo Sufficient Assumption drilling by focusing on the related question types.

The accuracy of this categorization may be proven by its potential to predict your performance on other question types. So if you find that you get a certain question type wrong more than others, see how you're doing on associated question types.

What do you all think about this? Is this an accurate framework for the LR section? What helps you improve on LR?

I just wanted to take a few moments to praise 7Sage, the Admissions Course and especially the Personal Statement editing session. I spent so much time scouring the internet to find the right way to study for the LSAT and the right way to get the best application possible and wasn't finding anything I felt would actually work for me, until I found 7Sage. While my LSAT score was rather unimpressive, it was definitely an improvement from where I was when I started, 7Sage helped me understand the LSAT and helped me score pretty highly on practice tests. I choked and panicked when it came to the real thing (entirely my fault), but I was intent on applying with my low score anyway. With the help of the Admissions Course, I was able to form an overall great application, and I believe my personal statement is what made my application stand out. After just the one editing session I purchased on here, my PS looked 100x better.

In short: 7Sage, and @"david.busis" helped get me into my dream school, Emory, even when LSAC gave me less than a 10% chance of getting in, so thank you so much!

http://news.berkeley.edu/2012/08/22/intense-prep-for-law-school-admissions-test-alters-brain-structure/

Interesting

I understand why A, B, C and E are wrong, but I am not quite convinced that D is the right answer either.

I would think that if a nation that seeks deterrence and has unsurpassed military power as stated in (D), it would not be the interest of that nation to let the potential aggressors become aware of its actual power of retaliatory attack which is not that great (since they have unsurpassed military power). They would rather want to make the aggressors not know of their actual unsurpassed retaliatory power but make the aggressors believe they have higher capacity than their actual military power, so that the aggressors would believe it could not defend itself against that retaliation.

7Sagers,

On Wednesday, March 8th, at 9 p.m. EST, I’ll talk about letters of continuing interest and other waitlist strategies. After my presentation, I’ll answer your questions.

Webinar: What To Do If You’re Waitlisted

Wednesday, March 8, 2017, 9:00 PM – 10:00 PM EST

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PT Break this week! (Wednesday and Saturday)

But before you start

too much though, check out the forum posts and

Don't miss out on some of the webinars and reviews happening this week:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/10522/webinars-reading-comprehension-one-week-three-webinars

The Study Group Schedule

And if you’d like to see the full schedule for upcoming sessions, here it is:

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