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Sunday May 1st at 8PM ET: PT 46

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For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

I have been scoring in the high160s, and I took PT 76 today.

I felt very confident about my LG section. Honestly, I was expecting -0 or -1, which would've put in the 170s.

When I scored my test, I got -3. What a disappointment :( When I reviewed the questions, they were silly mistakes (Reading answer choices wrong due to the close margin between answer choices between B and C, comprehending Tuesday as Monday....)

From time to time, I also make silly mistakes in my LR and RC sections...

I would say that most of the questions I get wrong are ones that I circle, but, almost always, my "confidence" error questions are due to a variant of stupid mistakes.

I am aware that the core reason behind not being able to hit 170+ has more to do with my inability to get the "circled" questions right, but all lost points are equally detrimental to my score.

What could I be doing wrong?

Cannot for the life of me understand this rule:

"K is advertised during one of the first two weeks."

Doesn't this mean that K cannot be in weeks 3 or 4? Wouldn't K being in either 3 or 4 (which it does, as per J.Y.'s explanation) break that rule that K has to be in the first two weeks? Am I taking this rule way too literally or something?

Thanks y'all!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-1-game-4/

Hello, I was wondering may I bring a silent stop watch to the testing center? I have accommodations that give me more time and to use an analog watch or the Perfect Lsat watch wouldnt be of any use, so I was wondering if it is possible?

I'm trying to figure out the best way to get myself moving quickly enough before I start a PT, without making myself too fatigued to be able to perform at my best in the later sections.

If ever I have pacing problems - being rushed towards the end of a section because I started off reading too slowly - it's in the first section. How do people get themselves - short of the obvious, take a bunch of coffee (which I do) - up to speed before they start a test?

Fellow 7Sagers, I have a dilemma on my hands and I'd like your advice on how best to resolve it. I'm especially interested in hearing the opinions of those of you who have first-hand knowledge of the services offered by editor David Busis, Spivey Consulting, or ideally, both. Here goes...

Context: I'm going to take the LSAT in September and if need be, re-take in December, as well. After I receive an LSAT score that I'm happy with, my goal is to then immediately turn around and send off my law school applications. Therefore, to accomplish all of this, I need to begin preparing all of my non-LSAT components of the application now. Procrastination = death.

Problem: I know that during the process of putting together all of these application materials, I'm going to need some expert-level assistance. But that's where I'm stuck. I'm not sure how much help I'll actually need and from whom it's best to get it. I'm especially worried about being blind to any "unknown uknowns", to use Rumsfeldian terminology.

Option 1 (@david.busis): As many of you already know, 7Sage works with the wonderful David Busis. I've bought his Intro. to PS course and seen him in action on a webinar. He's funny, direct, and full of writerly wisdom. I would love to buy his "Unlimited PS Edits" for $599. The only concern I have is that this leaves ALL of the other important stuff (e.g. scholarship, wait lists, mock interviews, etc.) off of the advisement table. Basically, I live and die by my numbers and personal statement and hope for the best with everything else.

Option 2 (Spivey Consulting): A second option is to buy a more comprehensive--and significantly more expensive--package with Spivey Consulting (out of the firms I got quotes from, theirs seems like the best value). I'm confident that Spivey et al. know their stuff when it comes to the entire application components and process. But it's A LOT of money for a person in my financial situation (just about $3,000 more than what Busis' PS edits would cost me). I'd prefer not to rack up credit card debt for this, but the investment might be worth it if it gets me into a better school and/or a better FINAID package. Or, maybe it's not necessary if I've got good numbers and Busis' great advice on crafting my PS. Who knows?

Option 3: Anything else you all might come up with. Have at it!

Well, there it is. There are no do-overs when it comes to submitting my law school apps later this year. And at 33 years-old, I cannot afford wait another year to do so anyway. I need to decide ASAP which service fits my needs/budget and get started right away. If any of you have first-hand experience (rather than mere speculation) that you can offer up on this topic, I would greatly appreciate it.

-Adam

i was hoping if there are any 7sagers with ADHD (or ADD) or even without that could maybe give some tips or pointers for writing the actual lsat/studying for the lsat. i find myself rereading LR questions and wasting precious time. also i find myself missing on key words and phrases because i read over it too fast. what are some methods that i can use that would be effective when studying for the actual test and also manage my time when answering them timed?

Hey Ladies and Gents,

I read @"Nicole Hopkins" ' Group BR Instructional. She mentioned that, if it's an option, you should self BR prior to joining a group BR. Does everyone do this? I've never taken part in a group BR before, but, I've done plenty of self-BRing.

For future BR Groups, I intend on self-BRing prior to joining the group BR. However, regarding this Sunday's BR group, I won't have time to self-BR.

This has probably been asked a million times, but I'd appreciate if anyone can share their stats with me so I have an idea. Thanks so much.

Does anyone know where this is? I got an email saying I need to upload a photo to my account and I cannot find where to do this on the LSAC site anywhere. I've emailed them but they say will take 3-5 days for a response:(

Okay, so I am nearing completion on the core curriculum (woot woot!) and I would definitely say that I am starting to grasp these core concepts relatively well (still have much to learn, still a padawan). Lately, my issue has been in BR. I have had this nack of royally screwing myself over when I BR some of my drills. For example, did a 4star RC passage today. I got it done in 7 min. After this I BR'd the section, like always. My pre-BR score was a -1 out of 7. BR was -5!! WTH??! Is it possible my subconscious intelligence is becoming smarter than my conscious reasoning. I guess this might be a good problem to have, in some respects. The same thing kept happening to me when I drilled a bunch of NA questions yesterday. Pre-BR, on the clock I would generally go -0 for the drill. But, when I BR'd I would miss like half of the questions. This is kind of freaking me out...

Does anyone have any experience related to this issue?

I am currently going through the LG bundle and I have a difficult time solving In/Out games with subcategory under time pressure. During BR I noticed in several of these games when one of the subcategories (let's call it category X ) get fulled only by putting one item in, there is reoccurring inference. The inference is, any two item from any categories that have different items of category X as their necessary condition are in a either/or relationship.

This is probably obvious to you but could you please correct me if I am wrong? Do you think having such rules might help on the actual test?

Just curious if anyone has taken or heard reviews of any of the law school prep courses out there? If it is worth it & if those that have taken them found it to be helpful during 1L?

Also are any others considering taking one before starting school in August?

Hey! I used to be able to buy prep tests PDFs online but all of the sudden can't find any! I live in the UK and it's the quickest way to get them. Does anyone recommend a website that sells the pts in PDF form, or any website that delivers quickly to the UK??

I have one question for you.

Who's ready to pump up the jams for PT71?

Saturday, April 30th at 8PM ET: PT71

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I've seen in other discussions that this is not advisable. However, I have been studying for nearly a year and took the LSAT once before. Although I went from a 157 diagnostic to a 168 on the February administration, this is less than what I was hoping for going in (low 170's).

Based on reading around, it seems that some of the T-6 schools will take some kind of average (feel free to correct me). I have thus revised my goal to 175+ and am planning to re-take in September. Also, after using a number of other test prep methods the first time around, I decided to build up stronger fundamentals using 7Sage's no-nonsense Core Curriculum and PT/BR process.

Like other 7Sagers, going through the curriculum has been slower than I initially expected. Should I stick to it or start PT'ing? Feeling pressured as other September test takers are joining the BR group and soon to have my prep limited to weekends due to work.

Hi, coming here from the two comments in the explanations (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-4-question-23/).

I would really like to get a clear understanding of why choice A is wrong.

The issues raised by JY and others in the comments with choice A also appear to be applicable to choice D (which is correct).

A is wrong because it could be that her daughter is just very wise at birth. Isn't this the same as saying a tree could just start off with a lot of rings? Those both don't seem to interfere with the relationship set out in each: thing gets older, thing gets wiser/gets more rings.

I believe the issue for me boils down to understanding exactly why the relationship in choice A is not a general/universal claim.

As one gets older one gets wiser [than one's earlier self] <-- the correct interpretation

As one gets older one gets wiser [than someone who is younger] <-- wrong interpretation

The older a tree, the more rings it has [as opposed to it's earlier tree-self] <-- the wrong interpretation

The older a tree, the more rings it has [as opposed to any younger tree] <-- the correct interpretation

Hello all,

I need some advice on how to improve on "retaining" information; specifically for LR.

What I'm finding is that with all LR questions, I have a hard time reading the stimulus and REALLY nail it into my brain and not be confused when I'm wading through the answer choices. And of course, I'm sure most of you guys already know, when you're not clear of the stimulus, every answer choice becomes a time-suck. I almost feel as if all these lessons on how to approach different question types are irrelevant at this stage, because before you can employ these strategies, you need to actually understand the stimulus... Trying to run before learning how to walk, so to speak.

So, have any of you been in my position and found a way to improve or overcome it? I am seriously in awe when I'm watching JY explain these questions and he seems to just instantly understand the stimulus and attack the answer choice with so much confidence... It's motivating and discouraging at the same time!!!

For those who are still studying for exam, I have brand new LSAT tests from LSAC along with analog watch for the test. All free (including shipping for domestic shipping). Analog watch was used one for the test and it was one recommended by 7Sage I bought on Amazon. I will even include pencils with erasers since I don't need those either.

I am done with exam and I don't want to ever see another LSAT practice exam again! I am happy to put it all behind me and attend law school in Aug.

If interested, please reach out to me and I will FedEx it over to you. Good luck everyone.

Managing LSAT Stress and Anxiety

Thursday 4/28 9pm ET

This extra special 7sage webinar will be led by Pacifico Soldati who, in addition to being an LSAT expert, is also a certified yoga instructor. Covering general stress/anxiety management, the autonomic nervous system, LSAT specific stressors, an overview of Meditation, and closing with a 10 minute guided Meditation and Q&A.

To join the webinar, please do the following:

Managing LSAT Stress and Anxiety with Pacifico Soldati

Thu, Apr 28, 2016 8:00 PM - 8:30 PM CDT

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Note on all webinars: Only the live webinars are free and open to the public. No recordings will be made publicly available, but we do make webinar recordings available to 7sage's students as part of the paid course. So if you want to get some great webinar content for free, be sure to attend the live version. Furthermore, any recording or broadcasting of webinars is strictly prohibited (Periscope, screencapture, etc.) and constitutes a violation of LSAC's copyright. Copyright infringement is not a good way to start a legal career.

I have this book, "Ace the LSAT Logic Games" and I can't seem to find any online explanations for the games in here because they don't mention which PT they're from and googling key words is not bringing up anything in search results. One I'm having a particular hard time with understanding is a game that has to do with spa sessions involving mud, kiwi, lime, and nutrient treatments. If anyone can explain why K has to be first in this game, I would really appreciate it. It seems to be the source of why I'm not getting certain questions right. Just can't wrap my head around it.

Also, if anyone knows how to figure out which PT's are in this book so that I can search for additional help online, that would be great.

Thank you

So the consensus is that if you're able to take PTs in the actual room that you're taking the LSAT, do it, right? I would have to agree with this notion. Not many people have this luxury, but I do. So far I've taken a total of 3 PTs after re-doing the curriculum. 2 were in the actual room (which is at my university), 1 was in my university's library. However, for the PTs which were in the actual room, I was faced with a myriad of distractions and interruptions that I don't think would be present on D Day: my university decides that NOW is a wonderful time to start repaving that beat-up street in front of the room (imagine jack hammering, huge trucks scraping up the demolished pieces of concrete, the constant beeping of those trucks when they go in reverse), also a janitor decides that cleaning said room is absolutely imperative to the functioning of the university: arranging chairs to desks, throwing out the garbage bins that have no garbage in them, and just walking around the room aimlessly which was incredibly distracting (mind you, it's just a big room that no classes are ever held in). Now for the cherry on top, the room adjacent to this room is undergoing some sort of construction as well: drilling holes, hammering, literally anything that could make noise. I had to Pause mid-PT until noises died down a little.

I was definitely off of my game for those PTs in the actual room and it showed with my scores.

However, for the PT I took in the library, it was perfect. Some noise, but definitely not inhibiting my ability to focus...and it showed with my score. (this was the highest score I received to date)

What I'm asking is: should I not continue taking tests in the room and take them in the library? Getting accustomed to the actual testing environment is important, but not with all that noise/distractions, right?

Y'all—

Some of us here are about to "graduate" to law school. Various members of our community (myself, @allison.gill.sanford , @alexandergreene93 ) have been discussing plans for a pre-law-school/0L study group.

The content will:

[Reading] basically be a copy/paste of @"Nilesh S"'s advice (Short and Happy Guides for Torts and Contracts, Glannon's Civ Pro Examples & Explanations).

[Meeting] Sessions to discuss concepts and practice issue spotting (using hypos gathered from various sources).

[Project] Practice exams exchanged/discussed by the group.

I think starting in mid May would be ideal. That would give us about 3 months to work on this before we're all likely to head into orientation week (ours is the very last week of August).

Interest? Ideas? Mostly we're looking to learn some black letter material and build our chops a bit before we head into the storm.

Can anyone point me to the lesson on diagramming for 'some' ?

For example: Under the Sufficient Assumption & Psuedo-Sufficient Assumption Section, Lesson 6, I need help remembering how to navigate the diagrams that involve "some."

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-finding-sufficient-assumptions-with-intersection-statements-1-answers/?ss_completed_lesson=11893

We're given premises with one premise missing that helps us arrive at the conclusion. In this case:

F (--some--) U

[find missing premise]

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U (--some--) /I

For the life of me I'm having a hard time navigating "some" when diagramming. Any help or letting me know which lessons to review would be greatly appreciated!