Hi there! I am scheduled to take the September 24th LSAT and I am needing advice on whether I should postpone and take the December LSAT or go ahead with the September LSAT as a trial run and cancel my score and then take the December LSAT. I have only taken three PT's as of last week, my first, which I bombed with a timed score of 136 and BR 161. However, my second PT, I went up 6 points to a 142 and BR to a 164 and third PT remained at 142 but BR score went up to 166. My weakest area is LG-- I have not been able to successfully complete the section in its entirety (taking over 10 minute a game) but I am improving. I figure once I have the LG down then my score with dramatically improve. Also, I have completed the curriculum and have been studying since the beginning of May 2016. I have been studying at least 4 hours a day during the week and 8 hours/day during the weekend. I can’t seem to shake the test anxiety under the timed conditions and I fear this with a lack of confidence in my LG section is really hurting me. I am now planning now on doing 4 PT's a week until the exam date and strengthen my low points in between PT days. I have been researching discussions on similar situations regarding postponing/canceling LSAT's and it does discourage me and make me question whether I should do the same. I realize that there is a month before the September LSAT but I still believe that I can raise my score to level my BR (mid 160's) within the month despite how foolish it may seem. My plan as of right now is to go through with the September LSAT regardless but I would only keep the score if I see significant/consistent improvement in the next two weeks (leveling with my BR score or close to) and If I do not see significant improvement then simply use it as a trial run and cancel my score after, then retake in December. I REALLY do not want to postpone for next year and really want to do anything and everything to be able to attend law school in fall 2017. Does anyone have any good advice/considerations/tips haven't taken into account? Will taking the December LSAT hurt me as far as admission applications? Is a cancellation a bad idea? I really appreciate any helpful advice.

I found this comment posted on the PT explanation page And I was wondering if anyone could answer what this person has to say because I'm in the same exact position as this them. If you could watch the pt explanation video or look at the question than look at the copied and pasted comment below: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-52-section-1-question-22/ (Explanation link)

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I have no issue identifying what part of an answer choice is a conclusion and which part(s) is/are a premise. However, I’m not always sure how to translate a prem or conclusion into which is necessary and which is sufficient.

For ex., we only have the necessary conditions for something that is wholly truthful. BUT when I read A, (and for the sake of this question lets assume that he was actually abducted so that it meets the “true” component of the necessary), I can’t tell what becomes sufficient and necessary.

So assuming it really was true and it wasn’t intended to deceive, how do I know that these are sufficient and not necessary IN the answer choice?

Is there really a way at all to conclude something in an answer choice THAT IS GIVEN TO US AS A SUFFICIENT in the stim? I could only think of something like “The only wholly truthful statement ted made to the investigator was true and he was not trying to deceive the investigator….”

But clearly, that doesn’t make very much sense. lol

OR, could they give you an answer choice that said something like “Ted made a wholly truthful statement, therefore, his claim about (and go off on a long confusing description) was both truthful and made without the intention to deceive”

This may be more of a therapeutic post than an informative one but maybe it will help some who are in the same boat! =)

I initially registered to take the February 2016 LSAT. I was a full time college student and thought a few months and I would absolutely be ready to take on this beast. Little did I know how much of a beast this exam actually is. As the test date approached I realized how unprepared I was and decided to postpone until June. With all the excitement of graduation and finishing the last hurdle of my final semester, I was again unprepared for the June exam and postponed AGAIN until September. Here it is, now the end of August and I have been back at work full time since graduation and have not dedicated nearly enough time to this. I thought about postponing again until December but reading a few posts on here and finally waking up, I decided to cancel my September exam and I will not be registering for the exam until I feel absolutely ready! (June 2017 is my secret, not so secret anymore, goal though, hehe).

This was a difficult decision to make for me. I put restrictions on myself such as "By the time I am 30 I want to be........" And have finally realized how unnecessary and detrimental that is. Putting off law school for another year and a half, two years is scary but I want to give myself the best chance possible and that's what we all need to do...allow ourselves the best chance to reach our max potential regardless of how long it may take. We are worth that!

So here I am, end of August, not registered for the LSAT, re-starting the 7Sage course and feeling thrilled about it. =)

Hey guys,

So I just recently did Game 3 from PT 62 as a Grp-chart game and got -2. Later I learnt that doing that game in a non chart form helps with not making mistakes.

So my question is, when you have two set of variables given with a certain number of spaces allotted for e.g. exactly 4 employees, Q,R,S,T each attend exactly two of the talks,F, G, H, I.

OR something like researchers H,L,P will learn at least one at most three languages R,S,T for e.g., how do you tell for sure whether to use a chart or not?

Hi,

I’ve completed my schooling this year and I’m confused in selecting the right career option that suits me. I’m interested in welding and love to select it as my future job but don’t know much about this. I’ve gone through this website *removed* and I am interested in the courses they are offering. Is there anyone working in this field? What can be the working conditions like stress, physical comfort travel etc? What are the opportunities for someone who enter this career? Does this career provide time to balance with family and work? Please share your experiences.. Thanks in advance….

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I am having a lot of trouble seeing how C and D are not saying the same exact thing. Here is how I broke down the structure of the argument.

Premise: Mars escaped severe bombardment by asteroids.

Major Premise/Minor Conclusion: There could have been microbial life on Mars prior to there being such life on Earth.

Premise: Many meteorites originating from Mars have landed on Earth.

Conclusion: Life on Earth may have started when a meteorite carrying living microbes were carried here from Mars.

Most explanations for this question say that D is wrong because it does not establish the truth of the main conclusion, saying that just because there was life on Mars does not guarantee that a meteorite carried life from Mars to Earth. But the thing I am having trouble understanding is that both the minor conclusion and major conclusion account for the possibility that they are not true by using could/may. So in order for the both conclusions to be true, all you would need to show is that it is possible.

After all, if the minor conclusion is true, if there is a possibility that there was microbial life on Mars, isn't it certainly true that this allows for the possibility for a meteor to carry such life to Earth (which is what the main conclusion is).

Hello 7sagers !

I have been watching the discussions closely, and I first want to say congrats on all of your progress !! Many of you are doing extremely well. Unfortunately I have hit rock bottom. I took a course over the summer and my initial diagnostic score of 144 went down to a 138 by the end of two months. I was supposed to take the September LSAT, but I have moved it back to December because I want to get the best score possible. I am working on LSAT every single day. I feel i am getting better but i have yet to see any improvements. I would be extremely satisfied if i could get to 160. I know i have unmatched work ethic, but it seems like im having the time of my life trying to grasping the material. For now I am reading the powerscore books, using practice tests, and flashcards to help me. I think i can make the biggest improvement in Logic reasoning because I enjoy it so much. However, I need to make at least 18 correct in each section to get a 160. Please help!! I am not sure what to to do. What are some techniques that have helped you all? Im familiar with LSAT now with all the practice i have put in over the past three months. I just need to break through.

PLEASE list the key components that helped you piece things together for each section. Was their key videos that helped you make sense of everything ? Please let me know.

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I haven't had any score improvement from ~3 months of studying. I just took a prep test after going through ~50% of the 7sage curriculum in the past 2 months and my score actually got worse. I got a 157 a few days ago, my last PT (2 months ago) I got a 160. I feel more confident in answering the questions, finished almost all of the logic games (before I wouldn't be able to finish them), but I still got pretty much the same amount of questions wrong. I took PrepTest 52, the logic games were kind of different than what I've encountered so far. My wrong answers in LR are now more concentrated in the "hard" questions instead of all over the place, so I guess I'm happy with that.

Do I just hope for improvement in the next month and take the September test and then take December if I don't like my score?

I would like at least a 160.

I know the pretty obvious answer would be that taking the test shouldn't be based on hoping for the best and of course I should postpone. The problem is the December LSAT is the Saturday before my finals (I'm on quarter system at a UC). I can definitely handle studying for the LSAT along with studying for my finals and just showing up to take the test on that day, but I really doubt I'll be in peak mental condition. I get pretty bad test anxiety even though I do always end up getting good grades.

Maybe my GPA & personal statement will be strong enough that if I get a bit under a 160 I'll still get into my TC ? :(

I am registered for the September LSAT and I scored a 171 (!!!!) on my first timed, proctored, new PT out of the curriculum (December 2008, PT 56). I realize consistency is key with this, so what are everyone's recommendations on how I should keep this going?

Can anyone show me their diagram of this question?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-4-question-12/

Did you guys use a passport photo to upload for your ticket, or did you take a really good selfie at home?

How might I obtain the LSAT Prep Test #43 by Tuesday? While there are a couple on Amazon, they all will arrive past Wednesday. I was hoping to purchase the test and have it arrive Tuesday... so I can join the BR group Wednesday evening.

Hi guys! Hope y'all had a great weekend! Just a really quick question for you guys.

So… JY's memory method didn't work for me at all-- I tried this a WHILE ago multiple times. Nicole's strategies, however, have been far more helpful to me. Now, do you guys think that these two methods are complementary? I feel like they are quite different…if not the opposite. I've been really confused. Oh yes, Mike Kim's RC tips do help too and his is more closely aligned with Nicole's. Like Mike's, Nicole's strategies don't require that we memorize the key components of the contents even though I do concur that both methods insist that we focus on the reasoning structure. Has anyone felt the same before? I'd like to know what y'all think about this. Thanks!

I am having hell of a hard time figuring this one out; I have 3 issues here:

If the press were not profit making the only alternative is subsidy and with it outside control

1)I was thinking: NOT profit making------> Subsidy and Outside control

but then I remembered "the only" is group 1 indicator and I changed my diagram to:

Subsidy and Outside control--------> NOT profit making

and of course this does not lead to the right answer choice...

2) what's up with that AND? which one is right?

Not Profit Making--------> Subsidy & outsideControl

or

NOT profit making--------> Subsidy--------> Outside control

and then link either with Subsidy -------->NOT honest Journalism

3) Am I making this harder that what it actually is? I keep diagraming LR questions...

Hi everyone, what's the best way to get a printed copy of the exercise problems? Has anyone successfully printed out images of the silent videos?

Thanks.

hi,

I dont understand why E is wrong...it says the citys mayor requested so they invested in computermodeling technology right?

if the mayor was not a proponet they would not request it...I thought. any ideas? :(

Is it bc of the part *because of* ? so we dont know if its because of that reason mentioned in E...but could be other reasons?

thank you in advance.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-64-section-1-question-18/

I would like to know the best guessing strategies regarding the LSAT in each section

Is E wrong because it is not about purpose and it also does not talk about whether it is "indifferent" ?

thanks in advnce.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-1-question-15/

I have had access to 7sage for pretty much a year now. I am writing the LSAT in September and decided I would take the Oxford Seminar LSAT prep course to get a little extra prep in. I still have a session tomorrow and I can honestly say, without a doubt, that it is a useless course compared 7sage. Like honestly, 7sage is far more superior in every single way. Just like J.Y says, they use convoluted names for questions and logic games which end up confusing people. They even discouraged splitting game boards initially!!!! The worst part is that they had us write a Practice test and IMMEDIATELY corrected the answers without a blind review. I actually ended up walking out and going home to BR. If people are thinking of doing condensed seminar courses like the Oxford Seminar, spend that money on upgrading your extension or version of 7sage. Seriously 7sage you the best LSAT prep out there. I may be a scum bag for doing this, but I suggested to all the other students that they purchase 7sage instead of continuing in the course.

Goodluck with your studies everyone and keep on grinding !!!

Hey Guys,

I've been trying to practice and grind on Sufficient Assumption questions. I know how mechanical these can be, but I have found out that I am having trouble translating the stimulus. Overall, I understand the lawgic and everything else, but it has been frustrating because I am having trouble at the first step and not even being able to utilize lawgic. Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks!

In the past those who wrote with accommodations did not take the variable section. Starting in September on and onward accommodated testers will be taking the test with the variable section.

Hello,

I'm considering purchasing add-ons. I discovered 7sage pretty late, and I'm already a year into my studies and will be taking the September 2016 test. I'm scoring in the mid to high 160s. I feel that I have a solid grasp of the concepts and I just want to iron out my wrinkles. I've already watched tons of 7sage LG videos on YouTube, read several prep books including the LSAT Trainer, and browsed a lot of forums.

That being said, I'm now working on the PTs in the 70s+. I'm hesitant to purchase 7sage's full packages because they're pricey and so I'm considering purchasing just the individual add-ons from 72 to 78.

- Am I allowed to purchase add ons without purchasing any of the main packages?

- If I do purchase just the add-ons, do I also get access to the basic tutorials (in case I need to reference some terminology in the individual explanation video)?

- Can I purchase one add-on at first, and then purchase the rest later if I feel that they're worth the money? Would this extend the duration in which I can view the add-ons or does my counter start over for the subsequent purchases?

Lastly, I'm interested to hear what everyone's thoughts are on the add-on explanations and whether you think they're worth it.

Thanks.

Hey guys just want to say I appreciate this community of 7sagers. It's encouraging to know we are all in this battle together. That being said to those who are consistently scoring in the high 165+ and 170s, what helped you break into that range? I am currently averaging between 161-165 and am BR'ing thoroughly. I noticed on some of my LR questions I second guess my gut instinct and my first choice ends up being right. I also have improved a lot in my LG section. RC has remained stagnant, where I only get about 70-75% right. Just trying to get some solid tips on how to get into that high 168-169 range. Appreciate it.

Hey folks,

I'm having a hard time with RC. I take way too long and the notes (words, circling, and underlining) I make on the passages almost never help me. Any strategies that have helped you improve would be greatly appreciated!