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For some reason I'm not getting any RC data for my analytics. The other sections show up fine, but for question type analysis, RC is blank. It says "no data available"

Anyone else having this issue?

First of all, high five!

So now what do I do? Take a break? Drill? PT? Start over and do it again? What have some of y’all done to transition out of the curriculum?

The question is as follows:

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I chose (A), but it was incorrect because the actual correct answer is (B). I understand the reasoning behind why answer choice (B) is correct. However, I am concerned as to the actual fact that we are taught to consider the stimulus truth and to not question the premise, rather we ought to question the conclusions.

As this was an older LSAT - ought test takers still concern themselves with these types of questions (where the premise/speaker of said premise may be questionable)?

Hope to receive word from someone soon.

I am taking the June 2016 LSAT. I am in need of a serious study buddy. My goal is to score a 165. If you are looking for a study buddy please let me know. I can be reached ]via email (Admin edit: Email removed. Please pm for email). I am currently in New York. I hope we can encourage each other in this brutal LSAT journey! Lets beat the LSAT together!

Dear 7sagers,

I have this dean who knows me very very well. I was afraid that she could not write LOR before school deadlines, so I submitted all my applications without indicating that there will be a third from her. Now hers has arrived. Shall I talk to schools to submit one more LOR? Does it hurt? Does it help?

Thank you so much!

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Hi everyone,

During my junior year I was caught for plagiarizing. What had happened was that I had copied a few sentences verbatim from a friends study guide that we both put into an assignment. Our professor followed his "policy" (1st yr as a prof btw) and referred both of us to the dean. I took responsibility and was put to deferred suspension. Ultimately I received a B- in the course. Now I'm graduating in June and am applying this year but am losing a lot of sleep over this as the days come closer.

How do you guys think it will affect my chances to schools that I would likely get into with my GPA/LSAT?

Is there something I should do now to better my chances?

I plan on writing a addendum accepting responsibility and showing how I've grown from the incident.

Thank you all your responses will be greatly appreciated.

I still can't figure out how to enter my original score and my BR score when I'm checking the answers. Could someone help me?

Lots of points made in this short video from Bloomberg Law. I agree completely with his viewpoint about the importance of writing and recommending that people should generally avoid pre-law courses in favor of having a more well-rounded focus in undergrad.

Nevertheless, I think it's a little harder to justify making law school 4 years due to the extra monetary/time costs and the perception of many law school students who felt that their 3rd year was useless (http://www.businessinsider.com/third-year-of-law-school-is-useless-2012-11; http://abovethelaw.com/2013/09/recent-graduates-overwhelmingly-think-their-third-year-was-useless/). It certainly could be the case that these law school students are just simply wrong, but of the many law school teachers, current lawyers, and retired lawyers I've talked to, the vast majority seem to think that law school either is a year too long or 3 years is fine.

Idk though, I haven't been to law school (yet), but I'm interested in what current law school students/law school grads think.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-3-question-23

I understand the reasoning in the video, that just because X is preceded by Y, it doesn’t mean that Y is the necessary condition.

However in the other forums that I have ventured, the instructors would diagram the conditional as

Every Major War in the last 200 years -> Sharp increase in acquisition of weapons.

I understand that “every” introduces a sufficient condition, but if we accept that “is preceded by” is not a necessary condition, then could the conditional statement stated above still be valid?

Thanks!

This may seem like an overly anxious question, but I was wondering if people take their practice tests in the same way they expect to be taking it on test day? I just realized I will be taking the LSAT this June in a large auditorium, with those tiny desks (the ones where you can't fit both the test and answer sheet completely on it at the same time), compared to the testing center I took the test in last time in which I had an abundant amount of room to spread out the test booklet and the answer sheet. I honestly never took "bubbling strategies" too seriously, but now I'm starting to think I may need to develop a bubbling strategy that caters to not having the answer sheet available on the desk to bubble in at any time. Any thoughts or strategy tips would be really appreciated.

I don't know about you, but after each exhausting 5-section practice test I take, I have to do something else to decompress for a few hours. Usually I'll either play some video games or watch YouTube videos, but today I was fortunate enough to watch Middle Tennessee knock off Michigan State. Do you guys jump right from the PT into BR, or, if you take some time off, how long do you take and what do you do?

Hi everyone,

I plan on taking the LSAT (for the third time) this June; I purchased the starter package and am currently going through the lessons. I was wondering if you all would recommend taking practice tests before fully completing the core curriculum? Should I start practicing the LR sections when I begin the Introduction to Reading Comprehension lesson? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

A stimulus says "A poem is any work of art that exploits some of the musical characteristics of language." (PT27 Sect.1 Q20) I would map that statement with lawgic as follows:

Expl Musical Char of Lang & Work of Art ----> Poem

or Work of Art that Exploits Musical Char of Lang ----> Poem

Now, what if the stimulus said "A poem is a work of art that exploits some of the musical characteristics of language"?

Seems like it should be obvious, but it's not (to me anyway). Is it a bi-conditional?

If something is a poem, then it's a thing that is a work of art that exploits the musical characteristics of language. So Poem ---> WA that EMCL.

Then let's say we come across this mysterious thing that is a work of art that exploits some of the musical characteristics of language. What's that called? Is it necessarily a poem? (WA that EMCL ---> Poem?)

PS: Not sure any of this matters.

I'm plan to take the LSAT later this year (September/December-worst case), would it be too soon to visit some schools I plan on applying to? Or is best to wait until I've taken the LSAT? Some of the schools I plan on applying are local, so it wouldn't be a problem to schedule a visit and drive to them. Thoughts?

So in reviewing the lessons on weakening I came across the one about the Olympics and it made me curious about attacking the support for the Sub Conclusion versus attacking the support for the Main Conclusion from the Sub Conclusion in these types of questions. Does anyone happen to know if on the more challenging questions whether or not it is more common that the correct ACs attack one more frequently than the other? Or is there not really a pattern?

I want to delete all my previous test results on grader.

But it seems like there is no reset button nor could I delete the answers myself. When I erase all the answers from the answer sheet, it still shows as I took the test.

Is there a way I can restart the grader?

For high scorers (high 160s, 170s), how have you guys kept answered questions from reading comprehension passages that test on specific details from the passage accurately and efficiently. These questions stump me because they usually test a detail that I may have glossed over. I usually fare ok on the questions that test passage structure but this particular question type has been getting me recently. I noticed in particular when the passage asks about a detail relating to a particular time frame, I find myself wondering where I have seen that particular detail.

Thanks

So I started doing my PTs after finishing the core curriculum and while I initially saw some improvement (started with my diagnostic at 152, then started getting high 150s now low 160s), I don't feel like I'm really improving. In fact, while before I wasn't running into time issues and was able to finish on time for the LR and Reading Sections, I'm now finding it harder to finish those sections on time. The games is the one section that is consistently getting better but that's just about it. I'm averaging somewhere around -11 to -15 total in LR and around -5 in Reading

Any suggestions? I'm wondering how much I should expect to be improving with each test. My goal is for a 172/173 but if I'm in the low 160s now with a high score of 169 (untimed though) I'm worried that between now and the June test I won't be able to reach my goal. So far I have done 6 timed PTs besides my diagnostic and 1 untimed. My Blind Review is in the high 170s.

Any input is appreciated.

I need to know where can I find the circle games and the pattern games?

Trying to be prepared for the curveballs that the LSAT may through at me!

Is anyone thinking about retaking the LSAT in June before matriculation to law school for a possible increase in scholarship/ stipend?

My 18 Point Increase Story (with Sage Nicole Hopkins)

Friday 3/18 at 9pm ET

You asked for it—this Friday I'll be sharing insights from my epic 1.5 year journey from a 152 diagnostic. This webinar is appropriate for all levels of prep. I'll share the good, the bad, the ugly, and the burnout—and the goal is to help you avoid some mistakes I made as well as highlight some best practices I've collected along the way. Bring your questions!

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I just wanted to put this out there for anyone who might have done/is doing what I just did in my study process. Just to give a small preface, I'm generally a pretty impatient person and I also set extremely high standards for myself. Sound familiar?

That being said when I started 7Sage I was so eager to get through it and start cranking out PTs to see how I was performing, sure that as soon as I knew some of the material that would somehow manifest in immediate and remarkable improvement. Needless to say I quickly saw the huge flaw in making that kind of mistake. Even though I initially did see improvement from my diagnostic (152), after about the 6th PT of getting the same score (160, 159, 161, etc), I realized I must be doing something wrong. What I did wrong was that I rushed through a lot of the Core Curriculum. Because many of the concepts made sense to me I didn't see it as necessary that I really spend time drilling them into my brain to make them second nature. The impatience got the best of me. I now realize there is a reason to spend your sweet ass time on the curriculum - it actually makes you better at this test. Who woulda thought?!

I know this all seems logical and for many of you perhaps it would seem ridiculous I would do that, but I figure that if I did it there are probably others who have or who are doing it as well, and keeping themselves from a true opportunity for growth simply because of a lack of patience. I stopped taking PTs because I saw it as pointless to waste precious tests if I wasn't getting out of them what I should, and went back to the CC. I started to review lessons I skimmed over and really did the drills in full. Instead of just answering the questions (kind of doing BR but not really), checking my answers and then moving on, I began to do the questions, BR them, then watch the videos - and this is important - EVEN if I got the answers right. There is so much in these videos that helps in solidifying being able to recognize the patterns of this test that anyone who has invested in this program would be doing a huge disservice to themselves to not take advantage of. Before I only watched the videos, if I did at all, for the questions I got wrong. I missed a great opportunity in doing that to learn so much valuable information that can be gained from different question types.

Again I'm putting this out there because even though I it's embarrassing to admit not doing something the way it's meant to be done and thereby making the mistake I made, it's something that I'm sure plagues many eager students who want to see quick and big results. All I can say is go to a yoga class, take a few deep breaths and say Goose Fraba - it'll all be okay. Learn as much as you can, soak in the CC, then march into those PTs and start getting the scores that are more reflective of your potential. The only reason you would not be scoring where you'd like is because somewhere along the line you cut corners (or at least that's what I think).

Hope this helps someone out there struggling with the same issues I have been struggling with.

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