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Over the last 4 Tests, I have completely blanked out during the LG sections. Its like I can't make inferences anymore. I don't know why either and LG used to be a strong suit. Besides going over the games sections again, does anyone have any recommendations?

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hey i am looking for a study buddy for the june 2015 lsat i am scoring in the low 70s to high 60s really looking to move up i also have a lot of packets and material that u might find helpful so please let me know

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Monday, Jan 12, 2015

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logic game timing

Even though I went with a different prep company than 7sage, I learned how to do the games faster from 7sage. However, I am still struggling with timing. It's takes me 9-14 minutes to do one game whether it's easy or not. One game used to take me the whole 35 minutes so I am improving but I don't know if I am doing this the right way. Here is how I do it:

First I'll do the game by timing myself

Then I watch how 7sage did it and see if Jay made any inferences that I didn't make. Usually it's the same inferences but he does 1 or 2 things differently when starting off the game which makes the time difference between how I do it and Jay does it.

So I try to redo the game again using the same way Jay set up the game which does reduce the time but then I go onto a new game using what I learned from 7sage and the same trouble again with timing. Ugh what am I doing wrong?

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My PT's are usually in the mid-high 160s but I had a hard time with both the September and December LSATS- both similar tests with -12 curves.

The school I want to attend has a median GPA of 3.64 and LSAT score of 162. My GPA is 3.60 and LSAT score is 161. I was wondering if you guys think it is worth it to go for my final attempt in February. It is accepted and the school takes the highest score. Thanks.

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Hi! I find that I'm always asking for advice, but I just don't know what to do about this.

I took the December 2014 test (first time) and scored a 155. Needless to say, I'm re-writing. I purchased the middle package before. I recently bought the premium package and all of the Cambridge packages. However, I only have from 58-73 for prep tests left. I feel like I can redo some of the earlier ones, as I won't really remember all of the questions, but that still doesn't leave that many.

I've decided to prep for the October 2015 exam so I have time in case "life" happens, I can work full time, and I can not stress/burn out.

With that said..... I put it in the study scheduler and there are weeks were I don't prep at all. And, with the scheduler, it includes weeks where I do the prep tests I've already done.... so realistically I have A LOT of time.

I'm wondering..... when should I start prepping? I already have and I'm slowly making my way through. So far I've done MC, MSS, and I'm working through weakening. But I might be done so fast, and I don't want any of it not to be fresh come October.

I was also wondering.... I've decided to start reading a variety of books to enhance my reading skills. I've also bought the LSAT trainer because I've heard the reading comprehension section is good.

Is there more I should be doing during this time?!? I'm worried it's not enough or I might get through everything..... too early? What are your thoughts?

Thanks :)

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Hi there, Does anyone find that it is more difficult to determine whether or not an argument is valid using the 'lawgic' method than it is to simply read the question?

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I'm curious of the accommodations made based on left handedness. I consider myself somewhat ambidextrous, although I write using my left hand. However, I am more comfortable in most right handedness situations, if that makes sense.

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Hey guys, another question!

I was curious, what methods, if any, do you guys generally like to take directly before you take a PT (or plan to do before the actual test) to not walk in on a test cold.

What I mean is, do you normally do a Logic game, to warm up? Read an RC passage? Nothing?

Just curious, as I generally do a logic game or two, and a couple LR questions to warm up. Regardless, I've seen a trend of -7 in the first LR, and then a -3/-0 in the second LR after ive 'warmed up' on the first section. Is it possible I should do more LR to bust in on the first LR section more effectively, or are my results merely due to a tendency for the test makers to make one LR section more difficult than the other? Am I in danger or doing to much before a test resulting in exhaustion?

Just curious about your warm up strategies!

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Saturday, Jan 10, 2015

Early PTs

First off 7sage logic game explanations are a Godsend. Logic games are the only section I really struggled with, but I am finally starting to feel semi confident on them with the help of 7sage.

My question is on the relevancy of old PTs. I bought a pack of 10 PTs from LSAC. I have taken 7, 9, and 10. Scoring 179, 170, and 173. The 170 after I ran out of time on a logic game and guessed 5 questions wrong. So I am feeling pretty confident for a Feb test, but I know these PTs are from the 90s. Am I in for a rude awakening when I start to deal with more recent tests?

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Hey guys,

I was curious how often during an LR section do you try or prefer to write out the conditional logic?

Do you only do it when you generally HAVE to, or do you prefer it to simplify the situation at hand?

When you see a logical indicator do you immediately chart it, or does it ALWAYS depend on the question stem?

I'm wondering if I'm wasting time charting conditional statements when they aren't actually relevant.

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Hey 7Sagers! Got a question in my inbox that I think you might be able to help out with. Here it is:

Hi I have a question about lsdas gpa conversition to ugpa. I graduated llb program in my country ı want to jd at top14 law school .fırst year İ took civil law but my grade was (FF) ,family law (FF),criminal law(FF) then ı entered University exam again and ı changed my law school . My school accepted all my fırst year and second year courses without civil law, family law,criminal law and in my transcript fırst year and second year courses writing (E) mean Exempt. but civil law,family law,criminal law courses grades were (FF) , I took these three courses again and my civil law grade(AA),family law grade (AA) , criminal law grade(AA), ı graduated from istanbul university. in istanbul university transcript these three courses grades were(AA) but In my previous university transcripts these three courses grade wriring(FF).If lsac accept my two transcripts of the three courses will be counted again.what can i do for this problem? or is this problem for my lsdas gpa calculation?Thnx a lot for your helping

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I'm trying to plan ahead and set goals accordingly as best I can. I hope to have my bachelor complete in 16 months, that would put me at entering law school in the fall of 2016. So with that being said, I could potentially submit applications late this year/early 2016, to start the fall term of 2016. So say that I apply and then determine that I possibly wouldn't finish my bachelor until the fall 2016 term at my undergrad school, then that would mean I couldn't enter law school until 2017. So if I applied to attend in 2016, and then ultimately could not due to not yet earning my bachelor, would I have to reapply again for a different semester/year? I hope that makes sense!

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Hello,

I've been working on applications and was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers to improve my resume for application purposes. I have my work resume but for Law Schools what should I emphasize or in what ways should it differ from my work one. Thanks in advance!

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I took both the September and December 2014 LSAT administrations, and I got a 171 each time. In both instances, I got a -5 on the logic games, which really killed me. I have been doing the foolproof method religiously for 6 months now, and in the weeks before my December LSAT, I was doing 30 games a day. I felt comfortable and really thought I would get a -1 or -0 on the section. Instead, I got -5. The story was very similar for September (although I was only doing about 15 games per day for that one).

In my preparation I did fully simulated practice tests for September 06 onward, and got -0 on games six different times, -1 or 2 five times, and -5 or more on three tests (June 10, Oct 12, and Dec 12). The games seem to have gotten harder for me in some recent tests.

I have done every single game from Preptest 1 onward, and I've done many of those 13+ times. All the games are familiar to me by now. I'm always -2 or better on each LR section, and -3 or better on RC. LG is really holding me back.

I was wondering if you guys had any ideas for how I can get better. I am willing to try anything. I think it's possible that I get time-pressured a bit, and coupled with the pressure of the actual exam, stop making deductions as clearly and resort more to "brute force". Also, there is an intimidation factor of seeing a brand new game, whereas now I'm practicing with games I know I've done before. I'm planning to take the LSAT for a third time in February (I have already submitted my apps), because I know I can do better than a 171 --- my average on 14 fully simulated Preptests was over 176, which included 2 consecutive 180's. One idea I had was to start doing four games at once in only 24 minutes in order to train with the pressure of reduced time. And also maybe do some fake new games I find online. But again, I'm just looking for any tips or insight. I'm willing to try ANYTHING.

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Can one use scrap paper or not during the LSAT? I have seen a couple of different things re: scrap paper... I took one PT and I thought it said no scrap paper.. and then reading an LSAT superprep book from the LSAC it provides advice on how to abbreviate or shorthand for your notes, is this just in terms of studying and not during the test?

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Ok. Since taking the December LSAT, I have purchased the Premium package and have started studying again. I am aiming to write in June, but will push it back until October if I feel I am not ready.

I want to get my fundamentals down. I am taking each lesson slowly. I have all of the LR Cambridge packages, so I'm wondering.......

Since I've already written it. When I'm going through the lessons (the first one being MC questions), should I go through the lesson and then go through the Cambridge package afterwards, Blind Reviewing all the questions? Or should I just simply go through the lessons and then leave my Cambridge packages until I am writing practice exams?

Thanks :)

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Hello,

I took the LSAT in September 2014, got a 145. From taking PTs, I knew before I took it that I wasn't going to do well but it was disappointing to say the least. It was lower than expected. For prep, I used primarily self-study with the PowerScore Bibles. I also used The LSAT Trainer sparingly. At the time, I thought PowerScore was geared towards my detail-oriented mind that tends to over-complicate things. But it turns out I learned that there is a point where it is too detailed and too complex even for me. I actually slacked off a lot the first time and I wasn't able to finish any of the books which I think further contributed to my score but I don't feel I understood the material well either. The experience was enough to realize I need simplicity. I registered for the 7Sage Starter course and started my prep work. I plan on upgrading in the near future to the 7Sage Ultimate course. I've been reading some in The LSAT Trainer as well. I just read the introduction and I'm already seeing things more clearly. And I'm thinking about digging into my PowerScore books and getting some of the Cambridge problem sets. My question is can I and should I use other prep companies or will that over complicate things?

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Wednesday, Jan 7, 2015

June or Oct LSAT?

Hello all,

I am planing on taking the LSAT for the 3rd and final time. Currently, I'm not sure which test date to sign up for. June is appealing because I can apply the first day apps are open, but I have to study during my final semester of UG and I am jaded with studying during school. I also feel like I will always wonder what I've could've done with those extra 3 months of prep.

Sept/Oct sounds more appealing because I'll have the whole summer to go hard studying and can take it light during this next semester. However, I can't apply as early, but it seems to me there's not much of a difference in admissions decisions/$$$ that early in the cycle.

Any input is appreciated. This also applies to when I'm going to buy the 7sage starter kit, as it only lasts 3 months.

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I originally wanted to sit for the sept lsat but my brother died and I just couldnt get back to studying. I have been studying consistently since november. I purchased the 7sage starter pack around the second week in december. My plan was to take the Feb Lsat. The holiday break set me back a week. I havent taken a practice test since nov and I am concerned that If I register for the exam and won't begin taking pt until next week that I won't be ready to tests. I am not working so I have been studying about 6- 8 hours a day. I have a family and I have been using this time to study but I will eventully have to get a job to begin to pay for all the lsat apps and etc. My family and friends say I should just take the exam being that I currently have the time and free schedule to do it, beacuse once I get a job I will have to juggle family, work, and lsat study time. Im just confused beacuse I dont want to waste an exam and limit myself. I really wanted to start law school in the fall as well. I dont have the money in my budget to pay additional fees. I would appreciate as much advice as possible.

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So I heard from a few people that Top Schools were sending them fee waivers to apply even though their LSAT scores were below (some even 5 points less) than the 25th percentile acceptances. Are these schools doing this on purpose to make applicants apply and just reject them so that their "stats" look good?

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I've signed up for the Premium plan and plan to study with 7sage (and other methods of self studying) for 6-7 months and then have a tutor for 3 months. I'll be taking the October 2015 test. I currently work at a top 3 NYC law firm as a paralegal, so I have long hours and a fairly unpredictable week. My plan is to leave work one day a week at 5:30 to study until 11 and then study on Sat/Sun each week.

Of course, I'm worried about burning out, but this elongated schedule is the only way I can see myself actually being able to get in enough time for studying.

A bit about what else will be in my application:

I gradated from a top 15 liberal arts school Summa Cum Laude with a 3.95 GPA, and I studied on a scholarship to Oxford for a year (my GPA was a bit lower at Oxford which will bring my overall down a tad). I have set myself up so that I have 0 concerns about getting in anywhere (great professor letters of rec, I'm a good writer, etc) based on all of that, but the LSAT is my kryptonite. I studied logic at Oxford and I still freak out when reviewing the test.

I'm dying to break 170. My eyes are set heavily on Stanford, but I also think UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, UMich would be good fits (obviously Yale and Harvard aren't out!)

Any and all advice is VERY welcome. Any advice from people with long schedules like this?

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