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When writing out the conditional logic for the reporter, I initially got /C--> /M but when I went back to review I got C---> M. In other words, because of the if I kept cured as the sufficient and then placed medication M as the necessary. But I thought when you have the word not in the sufficient side and the not in the necessary side you can negate the necessary side twice. I guess what I'm confused on is when you have "not" written on the sufficient and necessary conditional. If not is on both sides of the conditional how do you use lawgic?

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I hit the 25th percentile of LSAT but am in the 75th percentile of UGPA. What would be an appropriate reach up from my 25th% LSAT to apply? Ex 155 and 3.75. How many points up should I reach for in the 25th % LSAT schools?

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Last comment wednesday, jan 06 2016

How do you study?

What is your time spent on when you study? I ride the train to work (takes about a half hour) each way. I work on practice test questions, but I find myself dozing off, especially after a long day at the office. I also study at lunch (about a half hour) whenever my co-workers are not having lunch with me. Then, when I get home, I am sort of taking care of housework, other homework (master's degree), working on a project or spending time with family.

What is your studying like? How much time do you actually study? Is it reviewing techniques or working on practice questions, timing yourself? With my schedule, I find that I am not able to time myself on a practice test. Or maybe I should, despite the train announcements?

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Last comment wednesday, jan 06 2016

To BR or not to BR

Happy Gray Day ladies and gentlemen. So I got 158, 3 points above my average. Solid 22 points above my diagnostic but 7 points below my goal.

I'll be debating retake right up until our deadline Friday but in the meantime I was still in the midst of PT and BR.

My question to the community is whether or not to start BR on 77 as I didn't bother looking at any of the answers and I want to eat Game 3 alive.

What are everyone's thoughts? I still have all of the 70 tests to take and I just don't know if it will be worth it quite yet.

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so evidently a score in the 71st percentile on the LSAT earns you a score in the 89th percentile on the GMAT (business school admission test). I am an inactive member and am retaking the LSAT down the road. I scored a 157 on the October LSAT (12/16 PTs in low 160s with BR in low 170s) then decided to get a MSF degree and postpone law school. The verbal section of the GMAT is a simplified version of the LSAT with LG replaced by sentence correction. Even though I am not pursuing law school right now I have already reaped benefits. Did you know that you get 2 minutes per question on the GMAT? TWO FREAKING MINUTES!? Imagine what you could do with that time on the LSAT!

Anyways...thank you to 7sage, Pacifico and Nicole Hopkins. It's rather enjoyable to read forum posts here, be reminded of all the fatigue I felt on a daily basis and see how it has positively influenced my life (even if it's outside of law right now).

-Dane

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Last comment wednesday, jan 06 2016

Thank you!!!

I signed up for 7Sage in July, planning to take the LSAT in October. I quickly realized that there was no way for me to absorb and internalize all the information I needed in time to be ready for that administration, so I postponed until December. I studied nearly every day for the next 5 months, working through the curriculum and a seemingly endless barrage of practice tests. By the time I sat down to take the real thing, I couldn't read a question without hearing JY's voice in my head guiding me to the right answer. I just got my results and I couldn't be happier. I added 12 points to my initial diagnostic and even scored 1 point higher than my best PT!

To those of you slogging through the course, keep at it. This test is brutal. It demands some serious sacrifice and can take a huge psychological toll on you if you let it. But if you stay focused, put in the work, and take advantage of the guidance that is available on this site, that work will absolutely pay off.

And to JY, Jonathan, Dillon, Pacifico, Nicole, and everyone else who has built this community and helped to create an effective, fun environment in which to prepare for the LSAT, THANK YOU! You've helped put me, and many others, in the best possible position as we prepare to take the next step toward a career practicing law.

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Last comment tuesday, jan 05 2016

June v. October

Does it make sense to apply to a school with your June LSAT score, in the interests of taking advantage of submitting your app early, with the expectation of scoring 5-7 points higher in October (big reach, I know, but hypothetically)?

Alternatively, would it be better to take it first in October, with December as the inevitable back-up, and submit apps in January? The benefit would be a stronger first score, since I know I'd perform better if I took it in October rather than June, but the cost is the submission date. If I were to do this, would it be possible to submit my app after my October score, regardless of what I get, and update the school with December (to mitigate the cost of relatively late submission) or should I wait until after?

Thanks in advance

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Not only is this extremely embarrassing but the worst part is that I really felt I had improved. I wouldn't mind if it was a high score but I got a 156 three times. Now I'm worried because this looks worse than if I would have taken it just one or two times. Should I add an addendum to my application? I am a URM and have close to a 3.97 GPA and good softs. However, I realize that does not make up for my lackluster score. Now the admissions committee for each respective school will have a reminder of this 3 times. I've never been good with standardized exams. For undergrad I applied to a full tuition scholarship and due to my SAT score was initially not accepted. However, the program director liked me so much that he saved me a seat and told me to retake the SAT to try to meet the cutoff bar they had set. I retook and met it and was then offered admission. I got the full ride and while in college I was able to graduate with the second highest GPA in that honors/scholarship program. I explain this to highlight the difficulties I have had with standardize exams and at least in undergrad, did not reflect the ability I had to excel . With this in mind, I realize that law schools will most likely see that as an "excuse" as LSAT does offer some fair representation of how I will perform and wanted your opinion on whether or not to add an addendum regarding my LSAT score or just let it be. I'm also not sure whether I should apply for some of the top law schools, now with my last LSAT score. :(

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June Test Takers! We’ve got 5 months, so let’s make them count by getting our fundamentals down!

Here’s the schedule this week:

BR GROUPS

Tuesday, Jan. 5th at 8PM ET: PT 35

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

LSATurday, Jan. 9th at 8PM ET: PT36

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

Note: these tests (PTs 29-35) are part of the 7Sage curriculum and, for all intents and purposes, are retakes. That being said, I think it’s a great way to build up our LSAT fluency by taking an actual PT without having to use the modern tests until we absolutely have to. Another way of thinking about this is we are essentially going to do BR groups of the 7Sage curriculum, something I know a lot of students have requested. Some people might disagree with me, but I don’t think it wouldn't be a waste of time or effort for someone who is still working through the curriculum to do this PT, BR it and then meet up for the call.

NOTE: Great News! Starting now, we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs. (It’s also why we’ve already released the link to the workshop!) More details to come!

HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

Be sure to announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Last comment tuesday, jan 05 2016

    WTF happened.....

    All of my pt's were in the 156-160 range/I studied for six months & got my score last night (1st time taking was december) and I got a 148...............

    Suggestions for February???

    Sincerely,

    Plz wake me up from this nightmare

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 05 2016

    LSAT Study Buddies!

    Hey study buddies, post your thoughts about your meetings here! Suggestions welcome!

    Here's the general idea guys. You're all studying for this horrendously difficult test. Better to do it with someone else than alone. How? Blind Review your LSAT Prep Tests or Problem Sets with someone else (in person or over Google Hangouts). Try to find someone 1) on your schedule and 2) at your level.

    Edit: We now have a Study Buddies app on the dashboard! Check it out here:

    http://classic.7sage.com/dashboard/

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    BR Group!!!! The road to PT 36 is almost here!

    Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR

    Tuesday, Jan. 5th at 8PM ET: PT35

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

    EVERYBODY GETS A GOTOMEETING! YAY!!!

    June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

    I’ll be there. :) Hope to see YOU there!

    Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

    Note:

  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Firstly, thank you thank you thank you 7Sage! I scored above my expectations and even beat my PT average which I was already happy with. This was my first time taking the LSAT so I busted my back with 7Sage every day for 8 months and it was worth it. So everyone dragging their feet through this preparation process, keep going and don't give up. You're with the best.

    Secondly, does anyone know when LSAC officially releases scores? I've been getting emails from schools I've applied to saying they're still waiting on LSAC to release December scores before they can review, even though I got my score back last night.

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    As the Feb deadline looms I am asking myself if I will be able to achieve my target score by Feb . I am in the high 60s now and aiming for low -mid 70s.. say a 5 point gain in a month ? Has it been done ? The only reason to register in Feb would be to get it done with. LSAT seems to have taken over my life . At the same time do not want to risk my score. The worry with June is that it is so far removed from Feb I risk losing momentum that I currently have. Thoughts ?

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    So I took the December LSAT with no preparation. I'm torn between getting an MBA and going to law school, so I just wanted to see how I'd do. I managed to score a 154, which isn't terrible, but I really need a 160+ to consider law school a serious option.

    I did pretty well on the reading comprehension and logical reasoning portions of the exam, but the logic games absolutely killed me. I missed 11/23 questions.

    Ideally, I would like to retake the LSAT on February 8th, so I have time to apply to a few schools for the Fall. I graduated in December, and I do not want to wait until the Fall of 2017 to start working on my JD/MBA.

    Is it possible to increase your score 6+ points in one month? I would focus primarily on perfecting the logic games section because that's where I have the most room for improvement. I don't have work or school, so I can give LSAT prep my full attention. What do you guys think? Should I go for it?

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    Hi y'all,

    I'm just getting started with 7sage and really love it.

    But I'm a little confused.

    First, for the curriculum question videos (example: Holes in the Ozone - MSS Question) before the problem sets begin, are we supposed to just watch and learn or attempt the problem befor JY explains it to us?

    Second, I know it's really early (planning on taking June), but I'm a little nervous about my results so far. Doing both timed and BR, I struggled with the final two Main Point problem sets (on Ultimate+).

    Any advice or words of wisdom to either calm my nerves or improve my strategy?

    Thanks,

    Benjamin

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 05 2016

    Retake question..

    Alright, Dec 2015 was the first time I sat for the LSAT and I ended up getting a 165. My PT average was a 167 near the end (having started at a 155). I'm not applying this cycle (owe a few more years to the Air Force first) but am trying to knock out the LSAT now while I have the time to study.

    My GPA was, unfortunately, only a 3.31 (I had too much fun freshman year), so to get to any schools I'd like to go to, I need to be scoring at least a 170-173.

    I spent about 3 hours a day, 5 days a week for 5 weeks studying for the December test. So, my question is: do you think I have any shot getting to the 170s by June? And if so, how do I go about studying at this point, since I've already finished all three powerscore books and PTs 62-71?

    TL;DR: got a 165, want a 170. Should I retake in June, and how do I study?

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    does anyone have any test anxiety tips? I just took the last for the second time and completely froze as soon as the first section (rc) started. I'm usually good at that section but was so nervous that I completely froze on the first reading and couldn't process anything. This happened to me last time with logic games! Any tips from anyone who has overcome similar experiences with last anxiety??

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