Just took the nondisclosed test overseas. Had LG as experimental. Trying to sort which games was real. Anyone else take nondisclosed version? Thanks :)

Ok, folks. Let's discuss options for BR groups heading towards December.

We have two matters to consider:

1) Which tests to BR

I think the top priority is to get all the way through PT75 (June '15). We have approximately 15 sessions between now and November 30th if we meet twice weekly (with PT61 happening this Wednesday), which should be the last group call for the Dec 6th test.

That means we have to make a choice between:

1) Staying the course and doing PT60s all the way to 75 in sequential order.

2) Something else? I’m not sure if there’s a better course, but I’m open to ideas.

My question to you: Which course do we follow?

2) When to do the groups

I propose the following. Please either respond to this thread or PM me if you have strong objections.

—Every Saturday at 8pm EST (note the time change). Our sessions have been averaging around 3 hours (shorter than previous sessions) and I do not think 11pm is too late for most of the East Coasters to wrap up the call.

—Every Wednesday at 8pm EST (if we have a lot of West Coasters who work full time, we can perhaps find some wiggle room depending on how long your commutes are. I hesitate to set it any later as that would push the East Coasters near midnight by the time we finish)

----Friday Special! We do PT70 through PT75 over the next several Fridays; please specify if you want to do this special session—some of us want the opportunity to take these later tests twice before the December test date. Maybe after that, we can play with some older tests in the 40s to switch it up??

My question to you: Do these days work for you?

To all who have participated or reached out to me about participating: Please make your lovely voices heard!

And as always ... If you want to join in on some BR fun, PM me with your Skype handle.

I started studying for the LSAT in Mid-July and studied intensively till right before the October test. I was pt'ing at about 170-173 range for a long time. I took about 30 times PT's. I noticed that as I got up in the PT's to the 70s my numbers slightly dropped to the lower end of the spectrum 170 and some 169's. Regardless I took the October LSAT and while it seemed relatively easy while I was taking it. I feel extremely uncertain. If I get below a 170 I am 100% retaking. Should I continue to study from now until I get my score? I've also burned through all of my PT's. How should I prepare? My score breakdown has been remarkably consistent across all tests with

LR at -0 to -4 (combined)

RC at -0 to -3

LG at 0 (in the easy pt 40s) to -7 or 8! Usually around -3 to -5.

I've been through the trainer (not the logic game section) and the entire 7sage curriculum.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

So I know I'm not quite doing things the 7Sage-approved way: I registered for the October LSAT and started 7Sage late this June because I need to get my score back in time to apply this fall. I've taken the test once before (February this year, to be exact), and I didn't do so hot. I got a 158 on the actual day of, and I had heard of the blind review method beforehand, so I wasn't surprised because my best BR at the time was 161. (This was with three weeks of studying after having been back in the country less than two months after a year-long, overseas assignment. I said I haven't been doing things the 7Sage-approved way, okay? I got it!)

The point it, I've gone through all of the 7Sage lessons (exempting some problem sets because I'm also working full time right now, and there just wasn't enough time for all of them if I was going to get a decent amount of PTs in), and I started taking full, simulated PTs last week. I've done PT41-45 so far, and I'm a bit nervous. At first, I was doing really well. For PT41 my actual/BR was 160/171, PT42 159/171, and PT43 164/172. However, my last two weren't as good: PT44 160/167 and PT45 159/167. It's mainly the drop in the BR scores that's making me really nervous (that and the fact that the best I've done in logic games was a 60% accuracy and today was 46% accuracy). Does that happen? Does score improvement typically look more like a straight incline, or it is common for it to be more like a roller coaster with just a general upward trend? How many PTs do I need to go through before I'll be able to tell the difference?

I should probably add that after I do the blind review, I go back over all the ones I got wrong and try to figure out why the correct answer is right and why the wrong answer is wrong in my own words before I watch J.Y.'s explanations to confirm/correct my reasoning. It takes freaking forever, but I know that's the best way to learn. I'm just nervous that I'm not doing something correctly since even my BR scores have dipped, and I only have a few weeks to figure this out and avoid burnout at the same time. Words of advice/comfort/anything-of-an-anxiety-reducing-nature, someone? Anyone? Please?

Let's help each other?

Hi 7Sagers,

It's David, the editor who's writing 7Sage's new personal statement bundle. I'm still looking for a couple "Why X School?" and addenda essays. Send them to info (at) davidbusis (dot) com. If I choose your essay, I'll edit it for free so long as I can use an anonymous version in the course.

Happy studying.

I made a Scantron mistake that led to me to correct about 4 pages worth of LR answers. I didn't have time to erase very thoroughly and make strong, new marks, but I was able to erase and make new marks... How sensitive is the Scantron? Can it tell the difference between old and new marks if the old marks were erased but not very well erased?

There it was, staring back at me, a giant albatross of a mistake. As I confidently marked down the final LG answer as time expired, I look and realize, I'm marking bubble on row 24. This section only had 23 questions. Where did I go wrong? Did I skip a line? No. Did I double up? What happened?

And thus ended my chances at enjoying the possible post-LSAT high. Months and months of work and studying and prepping and a Scantron is going to be my doom.

See you all again next year.

I don't see how "H will go before G if and only if H is after F" translates to

G-H-F as one of the two possibilities.

(The second one was: F-H-G and I understand this)

Halp plz!

I'm scared that maybe I bubbled my LG section wrong, simply because I needed to skip around between games, and I can't remember if I properly ended on #23. It is probably just my OCD side acting out, but I guess some reassurance would be nice. Do other people have this same worry?

Does anyone else feel completely uncertain about how they did? I feel like I could have a 10 point band in my score.

I took my first LSAT exam in Hong Kong (the test was different from US tests) today and got panicked in the first section since the last game was EXTREMELY hard.

I found that it was experimental afterward, but at that time I was so panicked and hardly focus on the next LR section in early questions.

Thankfully I could manage myself to become a usual pace as time passes, but due to initial panic I was running out of time in the LR section (2nd section).

The 4th section was LG again. It was very difficult (although not insanely hard as the first experimental one) and I made some silly unusal mistakes in the first two easy games so couldn't have enough time at the last game and made a random guess for four to five questions.

Since I usually kill LG section (I got all questions right nine out of ten and got wrong at most two), this unexpected situations in LG screwed up my exam.

Unfortunately I did only a few full time tests as practice and I think this was a big problem for me.

Well, at least I learned lots of lessons from my first exam and now know what I should do for my second lsat exam in February.

So I just need advice for score cancellation.

I am ultimately targeting 176+ and I have solved about 20 PTs and for recent 10 PTs my scores have been from 172 to 177.

For this October exam, I was targeting 170+.

But since I did very bad in LG, which I usually kill, and panicked in one LR section, my expectation for the score is mid to late 160s .(can be worse if my panic was worse than I am thinking now...)

In this situation, I am feeling it might be better to cancel the score since it is definitely not reaching my target score.

Can you guys give me some advice on this? Would there by any drawbacks in canceling score?

Also, just curious, is LG getting more difficult in very recent exams?

I just wonder I failed it because I wasn't in usual pace or just LG is getting way harder.

I couldn't solve PTs from 71, but for PTs in 50s and 60s I feel the difficulty level was lower than the actual exam.

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy

I found this useful for games, is there some post or thing similar for reading comprehension?

i just took October LSAT and I have no idea what happened. I found 7sage to late in the game so didn't have time to use a course. Is it bad to take Febrary LSAT? Will this give me enough time? I am only scoring around 151 so do I need more time. and take another year to study. (I am 25 -26 in February. - so is that too old to wait another year?) --sorry freaking out a little

feeling pretty uncertain about today's test, especially on two sections. i did OK first time and was confident about 3 sections instead of 2...

Hello everybody,

I was wondering if anybody could help clarify something for me. I am a little confused about diagramming the sentences with two "if (or unless)". How could I translate the following sentence into the formal lawgic?

"no plant is worth growing unless it bears fruit"

I tried this way " - bears fuits ----> (P ---> - WG) " but this structure is not helpful.

Is it okay to translate this into either one of the following?

" -bears fruits ---> P ---> --WG" or " - bears fruits + P ---> - WG"

Can anyone shed some light on this?

P.S: Please helpe me with the next one too

"New investment that takes place while interest rates are falling cannot lead to the huge growth"

Because having a social life is overrated.

SATURDAY, October 3rd at 8PM ET: PT70

Note:

Most of the time, my deductions and diagramming are the same with 7sage's, but it still took me average 12 mins to finish each section. What are other ways to improve speed?? Have you successfully overcome similar problem and do you mind sharing your experience?

Of course you are. You're about to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one is called the December LSAT.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your last three recent properly administered LSAT PrepTests (e.g., 73, 74, 75) and average your scores. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

There is nothing separating you from that score except the mere passing of a few day's time.

You are as prepared as you can be. You have already seen everything those crafty LSAT writers will throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond with craftiness of your own.

Saturday will be just another PT day and the October 2015 LSAT will be just another PT. PrepTest 76, in fact, when the LSAC releases it. And how different could that be from PT 75 and PT 74 and PT 73 and on and on and on.

You're ready.

That's not to say, of course, that you won't encounter a few insanely difficult curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You will encounter them (again) on Saturday. I am telling you this now, so you will be prepared. Skip them. Keep moving. Maintain your rhythm.

You got this.

I hope everyone does extremely well! Let's do this!!!!!!

Are there 7Sage mods/reps commenting on students answers reported below videos to correct any mistakes students make when they attempt to solve problems? If so, do these reps/mods have an official avatar or a 7sage sign so we can quickly identify them? One of the reasons why I ran away from the Manhattan forums is that it took a good amount of time to weed through incorrect answers/explanations. Please help 7Sage?

Also is there a way to print one's notes or save them in a PDF format?

Thanks

Hi everyone! Does anyone have a good study guide or cheat sheet tip(s) I could use when making my own? Or possibly an example of their own that I could use when making mine?

READY.

Unequivocally. Joyfully. Aggressively.

READY.

Can someone break this one down? I don't see how B is incorrect, and I don't see how E is correct. Isn't one of the flaws in the argument a past to present flaw (line 6)? Doesn't B call this assumption out that an education party could be different than what has been historically true?

Also, for E, I eliminated it because I thought it strengthened the argument! Isn't the conclusion that the education party isn't going to be viable in the long run? The percent of people is too low for historical standards, and stating that even fewer people would join the party would strengthen that support right? Isn't that what answer choice E does?

I'm registered for Saturday's administration. I am not ready but if I score at the highest end of my PT's, it will be acceptable if I somehow bomb December's administration. The biggest problem is I am quite sick with a viral chest cold right now and it is not improving. I have a cough that I cannot suppress and I pity anyone who would have to sit near me.

On the other hand, I am definitely applying for this cycle. I just am not going to wait another year... and so it seems like I don't have much to lose from taking it Saturday.

Please advise?