Hi all, so I'm taking the test Saturday. In the past 5 PTs I've done, I've scored in the 160-163 range which I'm not thrilled about but I'm not hating it either because an LSAT score in that range plus my GPA would get me into my target schools. BUT Sunday and today I PTd again and scored a 158 and 154 respectively. 154!!!! Someone please tell me this is just my nerves getting to me.

Did LSAC do anything weird on PT76 like a new type of game or different type of RC/LR questions? PT76 is the only recent PT I haven't done and I'm just wondering if I'm missing out if I skip it.

Is there a clear reason about why B doesn't weaken for 76.lr2.21?

It can weaken by suggesting that those who completed the program were better to begin with but perhaps i am missing something. the credited choice only refers to "many" may not necessarily undermine the argument which uses most children as evidence. My only issue with C is with the phrasing of "many children".

It's because those "some/many children" may not be the part of the support in the argument which was only based on "most children" and these two are compatible. An observation about some/many people shouldn't weaken an argument that is based on "most" children.

Anyone planning on taking the Dec 2016 LSAT? I'm starting to study.

Good luck to some on Saturday!!

I just withdrew from the upcoming test and I decided to apply next cycle (I did not hit my target score and decided to fold). I'm looking to work with and interact with LSAT go-getters and ultimately improve with one another. I'm also looking to construct a study plan with someone's experienced insight. I can provide all the necessary details of my lsat adventures to someone that extends a hand.

For the Saturday writers: Stay strong! Stay focused! You got this! Believe in yourself!

I was going to apply for this cycle, but I realized that I want to finish up my master's degree and have more time to perfect my LSAT. So I am applying next year and I have another whole year to study for the LSAT!

I took this year's Oct exam and I cancelled. I know what you guys are thinking.

But, no, I didn't cancel because I felt weary after the test. I was having a mental breakdown during the exam period and I think I literally guessed 15 questions on one of the sections because I couldn't focus. Bad idea to have taken the test.

So I have been studying since late May and right now I am scoring in the low 160s with an average BR score of 171-175.

I eventually want to score 170+.

Currently, I have exhausted most of my PTs and have 10 fresh ones left.

I want to be taking my LSAT when I feel ready. (Dec? probably not. Maybe Feb or June)

What do you guys suggest that I do in terms of study plan?

Retake the PTs? Drill more questions from pre PT 39? or Review the curriculum?

Thanks and sorry for the long post!!!

Hi everyone. Like all 7Sagers, I will be crushing the test on Saturday. :) However, I was wondering if, under the scenario that I am waitlisted with my December score and then take the February exam and score a few points higher, it would be a significant boost in my waitlist odds? In other words, is it worth it to study a little more and retake in February if I suspect I could still boost my score some? I am definitely applying for this cycle. Thanks!

We've got this!

17.4.2 #15 The author is primarily concerned with…

So this is what I got from the passage.

Paragraph 1 presents as intro about the law’s completeness or its lack thereof when it comes to had cases.

Paragraph 2 details Hart’s model.

Paragraph 3 is about Dworkin’s view that’s contrary to Hart’s.

Paragraph 4 refutes Dworkin’s views and reiterates why hart’s theory of hard cases is still the most persuasive.

After hearing JY’s explanation, it’s become quite clear why the answer is E; my guess is the point of the whole passage is to convince the reader that Hart’s model is still worthy of respect and refute an argument(dworkin’s) that attacks it; “It would be a mistake, though, to dispute Hart’s

theory of hard cases on this basis alone.”

So, where I went wrong it seems was with the way I understood the question stem. How do you tend to interpret :”The author is primarily concerned with?” For the sake of simplicity, could we rephrase it and understand it as “what is the purpose of the author writing this passage? Why did he/she write it?” “what is his/her objective or goal?” “what is he/she trying to convince us of?”

For this question, I chose D. When I looked at E- I did want to choose it because I got the author’s position; siding with Hart and not Dworkin. I went with D because, the amount of “real estate” -if you will- occupying the passage is bigger for Hart. (silly reason, I know. It reflects my difficulty in distinguishing the way I go about doing main point/idea questions from this kind of question) I also figured “ critiquing” means to evaluate objectively in this context and not necessarily to take a critical stance on a view. By mentioning Dworkin’s views, could we say the author technically does (D) but it’s not what he’s primarily concerned with? That is, he does (D) in order to do (E)? Also, does he in fact do (D) ?

Thanks.

How can we be sure (for answer D) that a farm consists of a single CMC? Because if there is more than 1 CMC, Whatley's recommendation would not necessarily be violated.

Thanks in advance.

This is it!!!!! Let’s do this!

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I feel like I'm psyching myself out for Saturday by looking at all these trends that show the RC having gotten harder over the years. I'm worried that I'm scoring well on most PTs because they were administered while the section was easier, and having taken more recent tests does support that. Does anyone have any advice to combat this mental block? I'm trying to go into this all "c'mere, RC, let me slam the everloving shit outta you," but I can't stop thinking about my RC going from -4 on older tests to -7 on the newer ones.

Help.

Can someone please explain how answer choice (D) strengthens the correlation between people being overconfident and starting their own business.

Hi everyone, I initially planned on taking the December LSAT. However, I recently decided to postpone the test until June 2016 to better prepare for the exam. My recommenders have already submitted their letters for this cycle via the LSAC website. I am going to let them know shortly that I will be applying for the next application cycle. Do you know if the letters are saved in my LSAC account for use in the next cycle or do they need to re-submit for the next cycle? Thanks so much for your help!

Hey guys,

I was going through Advanced Logic: Quiz on Mixed Conditionals and got mixed up on #20. Hopefully someone could help me out here.

Except for the days where there is a zombie apocalypse, every day is a good day to study for the LSAT.

JY diagrammed it as

GSLSAT ↔ /ZA

Contrapositive: (/GSLSAT ↔ ZA)

However, I thought that "every day is a good day to study for the LSAT" is a conditional statement (embedded conditional), so you would instead diagram it as

(D→GDS) ↔ /ZA

Contrapositive: /(D→GDS) ↔ ZA = (D←s→/GDS) ↔ ZA

When I translated my diagram back to English it still makes sense to me.

Please let me know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks!

Hi all,

I have been seriously studying for the LSAT since about the beginning of July. I joined 7Sage pretty late, at around the beginning of August. I hurried through the curriculum and due to parental demands, took the October LSAT and scored a 155. Since then I have been PTing and BRing but have not seen an improvement in my scores.

I desperately want to go to law school; I have some exposure to the field and I loved every minute of it. However, my parents simply won't allow me to postpone the test/application process any longer. At least, not with their continued support.

I have a good GPA (can disclose if needed) and I know what a good LSAT score could do for my future.

I suppose my question is this: Do I suck it up, get a mediocre score, get into a mediocre school and try to transfer? Or is it really worth it to postpone the test again, disappoint the parents, but put myself in a better place for the future? I am currently in my gap year (graduated in May), so this would mean taking another year and waiting until Fall of 17 to enter school, as I understand it.

Hey Everyone!

I will be withdrawing from the December test by Monday. I will likely register for the June or October test. That said, I think a major problem for me, and likely part of the reason I have to withdraw from the December test, was burnout.

I studied for 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week, for around 4.5 months. By the 4th month, I was drained. I did see a decent improvement (20 points, +-5), but tanked on my last PT.

That said, how should I plan out my breaks? 1 day off per week? Half day off on Sundays? Other suggestions are welcome.

When using the fool proof method for LG, should I be doing the games in groups? For instance, 6 grouping games on week 1, 6 hybrid games on week 2, etc. Or, pick a few random games and do them, then use the fool proof method. The latter makes more sense, since the actual test is not ordered by game-type.

Random question: When you guys grade your PTs, do you count the questions that you guessed on? In other words, do you input them into the grader, and count them towards your final, scaled score? It makes sense that you would, but then again guessing is hit or miss - for instance, on 1 test I blindly guessing 9 questions right, on another, only 3 of my blind guesses were correct.

Thank you!

I know it's important to play earlier--the sooner, the better. However, ultimately, could it make or break admission decision. For example, if I took the February exam, and submitted my application earlier, will this have any bearing on admission decisions? For example, I if applied in December, would I have likely received a different admission decision if I had applied in February or during the last cycle?

Hello,

If I applied late in the cycle, does this significantly decrease my chances of getting into a particular school? For example if i applied earlier or later, would that significantly impact my admission chances. So if I used the same profile I applied for which I applied for October for February, would I likely be rejected or waitlisted if I had applied sooner?

I usually score 166-168. My lowest PT has been 161. I just took the June 2015 LSAT (75) fully timed and tanked it at 156. I'm taking the LSAT this Saturday and I'm freaking out because this will be my last shot at this test. Is it possible that it was just PT 75 in particular that was so difficult or is there a noticable trend among newer LSATs? I feel like the answer choices have gotten significantly more tricky, RC is more time consuming/tricky, and that 72 and 75 both had at least one odd game (the fourth game in both). Did anyone else have particular difficulty with this exam? Are June LSATs harder compared to others?

I don’t get this problem. Please tell me where my logic flawed.

JY's explanation is here FYI, http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-1-question-24/ and yet I still don't get this.

So according to the explanation,

X—Y= Z

X= the amount that’s been mined.

Y= the amount consumed

Z= the remainder , that is what was mined but not consumed

I plugged in some random numbers and I couldn’t get the logic to follow satisfactorily.

So if we say the Z is 1990 is 50 and the Z in 1991 is 30, then couldn’t the following scenario be possible?

X in ’90= 70

Y in ’90= 20

Z in ’90= 50

Let’s say

X in ‘91= 200

Y in ’91= 170

Z in ‘91= 30

It doesn’t seem 170 is greater than 200. My set up must be wrong.

What I am missing here? Is there something in the "Furthermore, Country Q has not imported or exported coal since 1970" that I am not picking up on? Thanks in advance.

So I got frustrated about three weeks ago because I had plateaued, and in the past two weeks I did a total of maybe one LR section and one RC passage (so nothing). Seeing as the exam is on Saturday, the panic renewed itself and I took PT 62 today. I got my highest PT score ever -- a 178. I was averaging ~174 for the 6 PTs before that.

I know other people have asked about this, but I feel that burnout is not really gonna happen to me in the next three days because I already took two weeks off. That being said, are these real gains? Am I gonna get anything from 3 extra PTs this week? Or should I just cross my fingers and take it easy until Saturday? (By taking it easy I would do maybe one PT and a couple of sections)

Also this: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/3un7d3/i_ate_at_chipotle_today_im_taking_the_december_5th/

Hi all,

I guess I'm looking for some encouragement, but I'll gladly take advice too :)

I've gone through the LG curriculum on Sage, and proofed ~70 games (mostly the ones in the curriculum and problem sets plus some extras from the first 35 PT's). I can do the games I proofed and new "normal" games with very good speed and accuracy. I've now started going through the rest of the games sections in PT's 1-35, by section, and while I do OK on games similar to what I have done before, I freeze badly on games that have an unexpected twist. It's like my mind goes into panic mode and everything just jumbles in my head. I usually end up -4/5 for the section because the freeze up and subsequent brute forcing causes me to run over time. The thing is, once I'm finished, before looking up anything, I go back and redo the whole section, timed, and get -0/-1 with time to spare. It's like a veil lifts from my brain when I look at the game a second time, and the setup and inferences become clear. Anyone else feel like this, and do you think it's curable with practice? Any tips on achieving the "clarity" at first sight?

Is anyone interested in checking out my personal statement and giving some critiques/advice? It is still in fairly roughish form, but I'm having internal conflict about what to change/improve/take out etc.