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Hey everyone! I have not yet bought a package from 7sage, but probably will go with the premium option. I'm a Canadian looking toward getting a score of around 160-163 to be competitive at Canadian law schools.

I'm entering 4th year university and was on the edge of whether I should apply for the 2016 cycle or wait till I graduate to study for the LSAT and apply for the 2017 cycle.

If I start prepping now I have around 3 months ( I know you can't reach your full potential in this short time). I would just like to hear some of your progress stories and whether 3 months of serious studying is enough to break the 160 barrier.

Thank you, and I look forward to communicating with you guys in the future.

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Since this is a diverse group of people with different expectations and ideals, I have a simple question. What do you consider a good score and why?

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So I was just poking around on the site and to my surprise 7sage has a law school course! I had no idea. Has anyone taken this course and if so, has it really made a difference in your law school grades and/or experience?

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J.Y.

Can you please give me some insight on when to split the game board. As well as making inferences, I am really struggling with this. I tend to try to fit all the rules together at once on the master game board, thus, once I get to the questions I have very little room left to see the possibilities.

Thanks.

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I had some proctor timing problems on the 6/18 exam. The proctor wasn't clear on start times for 2 sections and didn't call 5 minutes on a section.

Is this worth contacting with LSAC about? What's the best they can do to help me after the proctor mistimed?

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Is it normal when your about a month into studying for the LSAT, and you feel like for a minute your getting good at some skills, then suddenly you realize you still suck, or you think you are good at something and you really are not? Do you begin to feel some sort of demoralization? I do want to make it clear, however that by no means does this stop me from studying, it just kind of puts me in this sort of funk.

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Dear friends,

It's already week 2. Do you know where your PT BR Group is?

Wednesday, June 17th at 8pm EST: PT47

PT47 will whimper audibly when we're done with it.

Friday, June 19th at 8pm EST: PT67

For those of us who want to be able to retake and/or drill from tests up to PT71, we will have Friday sessions to BR those later tests. This is likely to be a smaller group but open to anyone.

Note on the Friday group: Please PM me and specifically ask to be added to this one; as it's a smaller group, I won't call everyone from the bigger groups unless you specifically let me know you're up for some crazy PT66+ action. And yes you can translate that last sentence into Lawgic for fun and flair.

LSATurday, June 20th at 8pm EST: PT48

PT48 will bend to our will, per usual.

Note on all groups

  • For the newbies: PM me with your Skype handle. You can also add me on Skype, using handle nikkers625 .
  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-)
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    How does everyone here feel about this concept, of studying for logic games for a week for example, and then moving onto RC, and then back to LG or LR.

    I'm just following the 7Sage curriculum and they switch back and forth a lot which I actually enjoy.

    When I'm so sick and tired of doing logic games I see RC and it seems kind of fun and new. Then when I'm tired of RC I look at LR and it looks appealing.

    I'm curious if I'm the only (group one indicator looooool) one that thinks like this lol.

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    For this problem, I nailed it down to B and the correct answer D. However, I chose answer B because I thought that D almost proved the point of B as the conclusion. In a sense, because we know that Pluto is not the sole cause of the irregularity, then we know that it is even more irregular than scientists previously anticipated. Thoughts?

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    Hi all,

    I know this is very general, but as I practice I realize that one of the most essential things on LG is to decide when you should split the game board, and how much more you want to further split your sub-boards. I wonder if people have any tips or rule of thumbs on this?

    Thanks so much.

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    I just took PT 50 and I felt like I did not even know how to complete the exam. I have familiarized myself with the test since December, but I felt like the questions were completely different than those in the 30s and 40s. I ended up circling 75% of the LR questions. Also, I could not complete 1-10 in ten minutes. Probably 4 out of the first 10 were extremely difficult. The LG was easy, but the LR was brutal. Has anyone else had this experience? Is this test an anomaly? Is this test the beginning of the drastic changes and turns that the LSAT takes?

    @amanda_kw

    @nicole.hopkins

    @ddakjiking

    @Pacifico

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    Hey 7Sagers,

    Someone sent in a question I thought you could help with! Here it is:

    I'm a 7Sager and have been loving it so far. I just have a law school related question and I didn't know where to post it on the website, hence this email. I'm an undergrad and I will be graduating in the summer (August) of 2016. My plan was to apply and start law school that fall of 2016. I will be taking the LSAT in October this year and will start applying to law schools soon after. I just started realizing that law schools may not accept my application since I will not have graduated with my Bachelor's when I turn in my application. I HAVE TO go to law school fall of 2016, otherwise I will have to wait until the following year which I cannot afford. Is it true that law schools may not accept me if I graduate next August? I am losing my mind! Please help!

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    I've seen lots of debate over whether or not some statements have the ability to strengthen or weaken arguments. The general consensus seems to be that they cannot strengthen or weaken, however, I came across prep test 29, section 1, question 16 on Proto-Indo-European languages where the correct answer to this weakening question was answer choice B, which was a some statement. I'm not sure if we can post questions in their entirety so I'll just say what the answer choice states and hope anyone with this full question and some good insight can reply "Some languages lack words for prominent elements of the environments of their speakers." My analysis is that while this may be true why does it have to apply to the group referred to in the stimulus? It could just as easily not apply to the group referred to in the stimulus, in which case it would not weaken the argument. Why should I have to make the assumption that the answer choice applies to the group referred to in the stimulus? If anyone can clarify for me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    I don't know if it is just my copy of the PT but on PT70 and PT72 the logic games are printed so that the rules are all on the front and you have to flip over to the back page to answer the majority of the questions so you are constantly flipping back and forth to look at the rules/diagram. Is there any chance the actual test be this way or is this just my PT? Thanks!

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    Since everyone is a bit confused, I'm making this thread. (I've copy/pasted this on threads that it's related to, so that may be why you might see this several times). Here's an explanation of what's going on in short form:

    -We are recreating the Problem Sets.

    -You can still access the old problem sets here: http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/old-problem-sets/

    -No, you don't have to go back and complete the new problem sets we added. They are similar to the old one.

    -If you've started with the old Problem Sets, you can continue with the old Problem Sets. That's not to say you can't look at the new Problem Sets / complete the new ones. Feel free. Just letting you know you might see repeated material amongst the new stuff.

    I also want to clarify that no one is losing content in their existing package. You still have access to all the same Problem Sets you had when you signed up here:

    http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/old-problem-sets/

    More info in this thread:

    http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/comment/18273

    @"Alan Cheuk" The problem sets are new (and packaged better), and some of it is old.

    @Pacifico

    is right on the button that we are going through PT 17-35 to extract the questions in a more systematic way. Before we had a loose selection of questions from PT 10-35 making up the problem sets.

    The old problem sets were created without LSAT Analytics data, but now that we have information available, the new problem sets will use pretty much every question from PT 17-35 (way more questions than before). They also slowly ramp up in difficulty, so the early problem sets are the easiest ones, and then you slowly get to the harder ones.

    Right now for the new problem sets Premium students get easy problem sets, Ultimate students get the easy and medium problem sets, and a TBA course level will get the easy medium and hard problem sets. The new problem sets also incorporate the LSAT Analytics data to make reviewing your answers easier.

    Existing students get to keep access to the old problem sets (under "Old Problem Sets"), and get access to new problem sets if Premium or higher level. There is overlap between the old and new problem sets, so if you try both, you will see repeats.

    We are still in the process of migrating. We've got the LR ones pretty much done, but are still working on RC and LG.

    @Pacifico noticed a bug where Analytics wasn't linking to explanations (http://classic.7sage.com/forums/discussion/3052/site-changes#latest). That's not a change but a mistake (sorry!). I'm working on it :)

    I hope this helps clear things up!

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    So, I understand why we can't download PDFs containing actual LSAC exam materials, but I can't help but feel a little cheated. I signed up after the whole download period ended. I know someone wants to reply and tell me about licensing fees and how 7Sage still has to pay all these fees for actual questions. I do understand.

    My suggestion is to change the exams and PS that come with the the bundles to PTs that are available in the 10 Actuals books. Although not ideal, they are definitely a cost effective option. Having to pay full price for individual exams that are not available in those books or high prices for books that include 6 of the 10 exams that are included in the starter course just feels like a slap in the face and certainly does not make me want to invest even more money to upgrade my course.

    I am not trying to come off angry, because I am not, but I do feel like I paid full price for half the product that other people received. It's a good product, but it used to be much better and I missed out.

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    So I understand how to apply the Blind Review method to full length PT's; take the test, circle uncertain ones, go back and review uncertain ones after the test before checking score. But when you're taking lessons and doing problem sets, and the course asks you to blind review a set of a dozen or so main conclusion etc. questions, how are we supposed to time ourselves on individual questions? Thanks for the help.

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    I am currently using 7sage methods for LG and have made considerable improvements. I still need to make gains time-wise. I was wondering if I could benefit from looking at some other perspectives w.r.t LG I am afraid that it might end up muddling things up since the 7sage method has worked great thus far for LG. Maybe I am getting impatient. Would love to hear from people that have made gains w.r.t time in LG

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