The proctor went a little fast for me. She kind of rushed the paper work in the beginning, and before the start of a section she would start the timer a little too fast for me to be able to let my brain catch up at the end of the section. The facilities were good, the room was relatively well lighted, the clock was within a distance where I could easily discern the time, and the tables which were long wooden ones in rows with 2 to 3 people each were relatively comfortable. There were about 40 people in the room. I did not see any left handed accommodation but of course that was also because they were just desks and you had room enough to lean to the left or right in order to take the test, whichever your comfortable with. Noise level was good and minimal. I got a ride there so I'm not too sure how the parking was like. It didn't take long for us to start the test after completing the initial paperwork. Less than 20 minutes. There was one mishap, which was during my break when one of the test takers in front of me was called outside with his test because he had been in possession with a digital watch which the proctor failed to notice despite the fact that it was on the table. I'm not sure I would want to take the test there again, it was too far and everything felt too rushed. Our group was the first to finish the test and things seemed slightly disorganized. I took the test there in December 2014.

For those of us who are still having challenges with timing, I found this semi-useful guessing strategy on Powerscore’s website and wanted to share

« if you cannot finish the final questions in a section, in the Logical Reasoning section you should always guess answer choice (E). In the Reading Comprehension section you should always guess answer choice (D), and in the Logic Games section you should guess (A) »

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/guessing.cfm

Hi there!

Looking for others with advanced degrees studying for the June LSAT and aiming for 175+ and top 5 law schools. It'd be good to find other "non-traditional" applicants and keep each other motivated through this long process. Send me a private message. Thanks!

Hey guys,

I'm wondering if anyone has any advice or tips they can offer me with regards to these Logical reasoning question types. I'm currently PT'ing at around 170 and I typically get -2 on LR but it seems that these two areas are my weakest. I've watched the videos on them but it still seems like there is something I'm missing, especially since this is considered one of the easier more basic types.

I took the August test and scored much lower than anticipated. I am applying to T20 schools. Should I cancel the score? I've been scoring 168-170 on practice tests for the past 4 months but scored in the low 160s. I'm taking the October test.

Proctors: Either the proctor could not read, or it was the first time she read the LSAT instructions.

Facilities: The restrooms are close by. The building is old but it has everything.

What kind of room: Big lecture room(s).

How many in the room: 100+

Desks: Well you have chairs with tablet arms. At lease enough space to put your answer sheet there. I spread the test booklet on my lap and put my watch on the chair next to mine.

Left-handed accommodation: Didn't pay attention but I would say no.

Noise levels: Minimum

Parking: Ample parking close to the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: People were still arriving after 8:30 am. I would say we did not start till 10 am.

Irregularities or mishaps: I sat in the front row and the proctors whispered on and on during one section - in the end, I had to stop them.

Other comments: The test center is not at St. Johns Law school, but one of the main lecture hall in the university. Your LSAT instruction sheet will not reveal this till one week before the test. The proctors are not familiar with this test so they are lax about the procedure. You can bring your cell phones to the test center - they will just store the phones in a white plastic box. The bad thing is that one phone went off during the test...

Would you take the test here again? I was reassigned there (from Hofstra). I don't want to take it again at this place even though I got my highest score.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 2015 Dec

I submitted my transcripts to LSAC about a month ago. They have all been received without a problem. However, the OLSAS website shows that I have no transcripts on file. Is this normal, or do I need to call them?

Proctors: There were 2, and they were very fast and quiet throughout testing.

Facilities: Very nice and clean

What kind of room: Small classroom, not a lecture room

How many in the room: About 20

Desks: Very nice, all separate desks with a push in chair

Left-handed accommodation: yes, but it wasn't needed, all desks were separate

Noise levels: Quiet other than many people got up for a bathroom break and came back just in the first 3 sections, and you could hear the other classrooms reading their instructions

Parking: Very good, no real trouble finding a spot

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Test did not start until about 10, a lot of people to assign to classrooms

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: Pretty good testing experience, proctors were quiet, nice, professional, and considerate

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2011

Proctors: 1

Facilities: Nothing noticeable bad. Building was bigger, but was able to find the restrooms pretty easily.

What kind of room: Took the exam in one of two small lecture-style auditoriums.

How many in the room: 25-30

Desks: Auditorium seating with swivel-up desks.

Left-handed accommodation: Possibly.

Noise levels: In general the building and class room was parking.

Parking: Though parking could have been an issue given the area, I had no trouble parking on campus relatively close to the building.Did not have to pay to park. I got there pretty early to find a spot, and saw several.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Took about 25 minutes for everyone to line up and get assigned a room.

Irregularities or mishaps: None. Everything went smoothly.

Other comments: Things were very calm and went smoothly.

Would you take the test here again? I would probably prefer a place with bigger desks. I had to store my stuff on the ground or the seat next to me. Would have been nicer to be able to spread more.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:February 2015.

I got everything wrong on the three-question set. I don't know what I should to improve

Any help is appreciated

Proctors: There were 3 in my room and they seemed a little unsure of the rules. They took it seriously, though.

Facilities: Clean, nice, desks were a little small (when I took the test at another facility there were tables with 2 people per), but all in all its a nice college campus.

What kind of room: Typical college classroom. Lots of chair/desk combos, but the classroom was also quite large. Maybe sat 40 people?

How many in the room: I'd say around 40

Desks: uncomfortable (hard) and just a little too small chair/desk combo

Left-handed accommodation: don't know

Noise levels: the environment itself was quiet, but one girl had a coughing fit, a guy up and left in the middle and made a considerable amount of noise. You'll get that anywhere though.

Parking: Plenty of it! It's a college campus, and there are a couple of parking lots attached to the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Between sign in (which was done inside the classroom, unlike my last experience where you signed in and then were walked back to a classroom) and test start it took about 20 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: A couple noisy things, but mostly pleasant.

Other comments: It's a nice campus, and I think I prefer the classroom setting due to familiarity.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Feb 2016

Proctors: Three per room. All were quiet and respectful. They announced 5 minute warnings and followed directions to a T.

Facilities: Well lit, clock in room, comfortable temperature.

What kind of room: ~50 person classroom

How many in the room: about 30

Desks: Small desks, only hold one sheet of paper. Each person had two desks--one for their booklet and one for extra pencils, ID, tissues, etc.

Noise levels: Quiet, aside from people dropping test booklets off of the small desks (happened about 10 times throughout)

Parking: Parking garage on campus; street parking is difficult

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 40 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Would you take the test here again? Yes, but I would still have preferred to find a DC center with full-sized desks.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Oct 2015

Whoops sorry didn't look at the sticky,

disregard this post!

Proctors: Two proctors. Relaxed but very helpful and kept things moving smoothly.

Facilities: Felt like a high school. Clean, maintained.

What kind of room: Small classroom

How many in the room: 10

Desks:Each person was sat alone at a two person table

Left-handed accommodation: Available

Noise levels: Low

Parking: Available and fairly easy to find.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 20 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: NA

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 8, 2015

Hey all!

I just scored a 156 and BR'd a 164 on PT 82 (the Flex version) this may not seem like the best score to a lot of people but my first diagnostic last year was a 142 - so to me, this means the world because it means progress!

I am still very anxious as my goal is a 160 for the January Flex test, so I would like to be scoring between a 161-163 (or higher lol) for going into January. My weakness lies in RC, I've come a long way but just can't seem to find any consistency in it.

Wondering if anyone knows anything about this RC section (is it an easier one or is it average?) Also wondering what study tips were most effective for you in RC. I've been doing as many passages as I can, blind reviewing, and going through the answers in JY's videos. I've found this to be really helpful but as always I'm open to suggestions! I also scored -10 on this LR section which I think is unusual for me.

Yay to progress and staying positive!

Proctors: I believe there were four total. The main guy who called time each section called it 30 seconds early in one section.

Facilities: Nothing special. Howard's campus is old and not very nice or updated, but the bathrooms are fine. *See heater comment below*

What kind of room: Large auditorium

How many in the room: Maybe 100-130? There were other rooms people went to, though I'm not sure if they were also auditoriums or small lecture halls/rooms.

Desks: Seats are narrow with tiny (and I mean TINY) flip desks, about 8" across but triangular, so I had to take the exam on my lap because they were so small and one could not support or balance the booklet and pencils/eraser/etc.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Average

Parking: Highly recommend taking public transit or a cab as parking is limited and mostly zoned.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: An hour and a half or so, maybe a bit more.

Irregularities or mishaps: Howard U did not turn on the heaters until we arrived in the testing room, even though it was icy outside and the forecast had long said it would be cold. Since it was such a huge room, it took a very long time to warm up, and I couldn't feel my hands or feet for the first half of the exam. It was terrible.

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? NEVER again. Even if the location is convenient, it's not worth the inconvenience of the testing site itself. It definitely had an impact on my test performance.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015

The proctor was organized and thorough, and communication was good. She made sure everyone heard and understood the rules before carrying on in reading out instructions. The room was relatively easy to find, it was well lit. There were no windows, but that didn't make it feel uninviting or uncomfortable. There were rows of long wooden desks going down the middle of the room seating two or three people each. I didn't notice any left handed accommodation, but there might have been one. There wasn't much need for it on the rows of desks because there was room enough between test takers that one could write the test either from their right or left. There were around 40 students in the room and noise level during the test was perfect, there was no disturbances. Finding the room inside the building was relatively easy, the only downside was finding a place to park. It took half an hour to get through all the pre-test formalities. It was close to me, one of the assistants of the proctors had been really funny and friendly, and facilities were great. I would definitely take the test there again if I had to. I took the test on October 2015.

Proctors: Four proctors, two women and two men. The woman actually reading the exam instructions was a terrible reader - she was tripping over every other word, which was terribly distracting. I'm just glad I had used the 7sage proctor and was already familiar with the spiel, otherwise it would have been unnecessary stress.

Facilities: Took place in one of the newest buildings on campus, CCIS. Gorgeous building, great rooms and big tables.

What kind of room: Large theatre-style lecture hall (all four rooms)

How many in the room: ~75-100

Desks: Bench-style desks with pull-out chairs. Lots of room to work.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A, bench-style desks.

Noise levels: low.

Parking: ~$5 for the full testing time, or less depending on where you parked. Public transport available.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 45 minutes, proctors were slow to check people in.

Irregularities or mishaps: None!

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? Yes - but I don't have to :)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 5 2015

Looking to find a study buddy or maybe group, depending on interest.

Anyone here from Calgary and took the June 2019 test today?

Does anyone have any particularly open ended games with a lot of rules to recommend for practice? I find myself getting a bit intimidated when there isn't that much that one can map out up front, so more practice with these would be helpful.

Sorry this is long and I haven't proof it yet for errors, but if you would like to read my email to LSAC regarding my terrible experience today with the October Flex, here it is. As prospective law students, we deserve SO much better than this.

To whom it may concern,

I took the October LSAT flex today. After months of studying and putting in my best effort, I was positive coming into it. I got set up my dad’s office since it has the fastest internet in my house, I checked that my connection was good (about 300 megabits per second) and logged into ProctorU. Come 9:10, when my exam was set to start, I clicked ‘begin’ and the process of checking my video and microphone connection happened almost immediately, but I was told my lighting did not pass the test. I turned my light on brighter in the room and pressed ‘retry’ to recheck the lighting. This time, it wouldn’t seem to load. I waited 20 minutes, attempted to speak to multiple technicians, but nobody was responding or could help me. I was afraid of exiting out of the window in case I wouldn’t be let back in. After 30 minutes, I took the risk of closing the window and reopened, logged back into ProctorU and after only a minute, I was set up and ready to receive my proctor. I felt a wave of relief when my proctor said I wasn’t too late for the test.

My proctor was very helpful with getting me ready for the test, checking my surrounding, etc. I started the test with the Logic Games section. About 5 minutes into the section my test was interrupted by a screen saying I was disconnected from the proctor, and my test was also stopped. I opened the chat box with my proctor and told them it had disconnected. They helped me get back into the section but before they could, they had me go into the system preferences of my computer and do a lot of troubleshooting, then eventually I had to reboot my computer. This was not by choice, but what my proctor, who had control of my screen, was requesting of me. With nothing else to do, I obliged. My computer screen went black for about 15 seconds then came back on. I was terrified. The proctor then told me I could begin my test again and that my test was paused at the initial disconnect, meaning I wouldn’t lose any time in the test. But as I started the test again, I am almost positive I lost time in the section. At least a few minutes had passed that I did not get back in that games section. I finished the section, regardless, putting in my absolute best effort and trying not to think about what had just occurred.

I began my Logic Reasoning section next. 20 minutes in, I coincidentally check my time and see that I have 15 minutes left. A few seconds later, the same disconnect that happened in the Logic Games section occurs. This time, I tell my proctor I have disconnected yet again and they lead me back into the exam. This was only a detour of about a minute and I did not lose any time in the section but was sufficiently paused at the time of my disconnect. As I am working through the section, suddenly I see a notification bouncing at the bottom of my screen from my proctor, and I think, “why is my proctor messaging me while I am trying to focus on my test?” Of course, I don’t react or respond to the notification and continue, although I am very distracted by the bouncing icon. A little while later a new tab suddenly opens on my browser and disrupts my test. It is not your average pop up, but a ProctorU support page requesting that I submit a survey regarding my technical assistance. Mind you, this was during my Logical Reasoning section with about 10 minutes left while completing the most difficult questions in the section. Stunned and disappointed, I immediately close the window. Again, I see a notification at the bottom of my screen from my proctor. I ignore it and haphazardly finish the section, however the interruptions undoubtably affected my performance negatively.

As soon as the time is called for the Logical Reasoning section, I have 60 seconds before the Reading Comprehension section begins and I check to see what my proctor had said. There was a second chat box opened (I assume it was because I had to re download the zip file that allowed the screen sharing by the proctor) and in the text box it said something along the lines of, “you have left the testing screen” presumably talking about when the tech support survey screen appeared 10 minutes before. To be honest, I don’t remember exactly what the chat box told me, but I was worried my test had been flagged for something completely out of my control. This carried into my performance on the Reading Comprehension section. I remember the chat saying I had been disconnected from my proctor, but the first chat box with my initial proctor was still open. So I messaged them defending myself and saying, “I did not leave the screen, a new tab opened during the test from ProctorU and I closed it within seconds”. I now had 15 seconds left until my Reading Comprehension section began. Petrified that my months of hard work had been for nothing, I finished the third section without any disconnects, and my test was complete.

This experience has left me feeling rather defeated. I went into this test with a great mindset and countless hours of studying under my belt. I find these technical issues to be extremely unfair and unprofessional. The internet speed in my house is impeccable and has never been an issue before, so I am left searching for a reason why my test would disconnect multiple times. Luckily I do not suffer from a diagnosed anxiety disorder, because this would certainly be something to trigger a panic attack during the test. That being said, it it can be reasonable expected for any normal person to be affected negatively by the stress of this type of circumstance. Thankfully, I was able to stay composed and complete my sections, but I did so with fear in the back of my mind rather than the 100% concentrated focus I expect when taking such an important test.

This was one of the most pertinent days of my life and to go through this nightmare is beyond disheartening. I had read about technical difficulties similar to mine since the first flex test in August on the 7sage forum, and I prayed nightly that I would be luckier. Unfortunately, this format of the LSAT does not only favor those with intellect, but those who are lucky enough to not experience a technical difficulty. Where is the justice for those of us who have lost time on our sections, for those of us who have planned out an entire year based on taking a specific LSAT date and have etched out the perfect amount of time to complete applications but are now impeded by uneasiness and worry as we may have to take the exam in January and apply later than the rest of the pool, or even worse, wait another year to apply to law school? As future law students, we deserve a lot better than this system of consistent failure. I sit here, still, in utter shock and I wonder if I will be able to attend a satisfactory law school next fall.

As a reparation for my suffering today I request a full refund that I may use to take a later test, and a confirmation that my test has not be flagged.

I look forward to speaking further about this situation. Until then, have a great day.

-Lucia Izzolo

Admin Note: Related thread is located here: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/25548/october-lsat-flex-issues

I'm looking for anybody willing to meet up or at least discuss the lsat over skype. I usually study between 5-8 hours a day and have been practicing around low 170's, but have still have a lot of trouble with timing. I'm willing to help any of you with my strengths which is logical reasoning. I'm just looking for anyone who is very motivated to score very high and can make studying much more interactive by bouncing our minds and methods off each other. Anyways, if you're interested let me know at enzonabiev818@gmail.com. Thank you and wish you all the best of luck!

Hi everyone,

I am Leon, a new 7 Sager. Hope everyone did or will do well on the March LSAT!

As the March LSAT just ended here (in Taiwan), I knew I was not fully prepared so will go for a retake. I have some concerns about which 7 sage package I should choose. I am currently around 155-160 and aims for high 160s (yeah a low 170s will be great but I am trying to not give myself too much stress). As my time is ticking and my budget was somewhat limited (I worked full-time while studying LSAT). So I am considering between the basic package and the premium one.

My concern was to what extent the core curriculum was different between these two packages? (LR part only)

When I used the 7 sage schedule planner, the two schedule showed different courses corresponding to my selected package. I thought the starter also cover all the courses and the differences were more about other parts like question crack tips. (My strongest part has been LG (-2 to -4). As to RC, the result of my whole-day internet research suggested that RC was not what most people recommend when they choose 7 sage package. So for now my main focus was about the LR courses in each package.)

Should I manage to go through the LR courses or I should focus on on thorough BR reviews and doing PTs?

On a LR section, I usually got -8 on average with a 2 pt variation. In BR, it's usually about -5 (for I was sometimes overconfident for some type of questions so I even did not notice my lack of skills/understanding on certain easier questions; other times, I missed some basic level questions because I misread the given stimulus.) Thus, I felt my weakness was not on a particular Q type of question (esp. from Q 1-12, my errors were always here and there.) But it was more like an overall LR weakness.

I have finished the bible, manhattan, and the trainer. Also, I made a sheet for my attack plan on each question type. But, somehow the question stimulus can always gave me difficulties and ACs could be really confusing regardless of how much I tried to refine my attack method. I am guess it was because I was not paying enough attention to dissect and REALLY understand each stimulus and its argument types and structure. I want to go thorough all of the 7 sage LR courses, but it might cost me too much time. Then I won't have time to really plow through a good amount of PTs. But I am also not sure about how helpful the LR courses were in helping my LR scores.

Would really appreciate any advice/suggestion since no one I knew studied for LSAT here!

Thanks a lot.

Proctors:

Facilities: Tests are administered in an academic building at Salem State. About a dozen classrooms were in use.

What kind of room: Standard classroom

How many in the room: 18-24

Desks: Standard classroom desks. Wooden desk slate attached to plastic chair

Left-handed accommodation: yes

Noise levels: Beyond the occasional car horn heard through the window the room was quiet.

Parking: Street parking and school lot

Time elapsed from arrival to test: No irregularities in time

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/5

Have more test centers been hotels in recent years? Seems like maybe they used to be at universities more, but I'm not sure. Anyway, if a hotel is a possible venue, any ideas for how to take PTs in the same environment or something very much like it?