Has anyone done the older practice tests (10-40) and compared them with the newer ones (59 +). I found that the older ones are much harder and my score is usually 4-5 points below what I score on the newer ones. Is it just me or do some of you also notice this?

Thanks!

Improvements do happen! Post them!

My Improvements:

First Un-Timed LSAT (#7): 158

Most Recent Un-Timed LSAT (#18): 175

+17

First Timed LSAT (#43): 148

Most Recent Timed LSAT (#57): 162

+14

I have been studying for 1 year and 2 months. I will take the June LSAT.

This February, I am devoting every day to Logic Games.

In March, I will review all sections, taking Un-Timed LSATs.

Beginning in April and into June, I will begin taking Timed LSATs again.

Improvements do happen, but you must be realistic.

Happy Studying,

Bret

Hey all,

So I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on how to improve timing? My timing is okay but sometimes I go over and I miss the last end of a section and it bums me out because I'll go back and I'll get most of them correct. I heard that some people reduce their time while PTing (33 min. instead of 35 min.) to train yourself. Has anyone ever tried to reduce their section time to like 30 min. to train with that more intense pressure? Or is that not enough time to be accurate?

I appreciate any and all comments, thanks!

as a general rule of thumb, what do you guys do regrading watching video explanations after a PT? I know you watch videos you missed on BR. What about the ones you changed and got right under BR or the ones you didn't have time to get to but got correct? In the interest of time you think its okay to not watch those videos... I know the BR instructions says we don't need watch those videos, but the little cursor msg in the PT thing says that I should sometimes lol

These are my scores, as follows:

First ever score (no studying done, ever:) 155

Second Score: 158

Third Score: 161

Fourth Score: 164

Fifth Score: 157

Sixth Score: 153.

The following information is vitally important.

For my first to fifth scores, I did them all timed and proctored, and only did 4 section tests. Meaning I didn't add an additional section to replicate test-day. All of these tests were taken either in the late afternoon or the evening, alone.

For my sixth test, I wanted to simulate actual test day.

However, literally all of these things I don't normally do.

*note*I know JY says to get into a 2 month pattern, but I lack the time available. I started studying only 3 weeks ago, because I found out on January 10th that I was being forced to take the February LSAT due to overwhelming circumstances.*end note*

I woke up at 7:30, Saturday morning.

Made some normal breakfast, had coffee with sugar, swallowed 25mg of Adderal (bad idea? I read a story of a 150 scorer getting a 175 and the only difference was that he took some Adderal. I bought some, just to experiment. I am not normally on Adderal, but I used to take it as a child.)

Put all of my belongings, 4 penciles, a sharpener, etc. into a ziplock bag.

Got to the official test site where the February test will be taken next week, on time.

Sat down. Started playing the 5section proctor audio file.

The sections were LG LR LR break RC LRexperimental.

During the break, I stretched out, walked around, did one or 2 slow pushups, massaged my eyeballs, looked at my phone (im sorry, 15 minutes was a long time to wait doing nothing,) and then sat down for the last 3 minutes.

I did my writing portion and then scored my test.

My first 3 sections were about average, but I did especially poor on the Logic Games: -9, -7, -7.

My 4th section, RC, I did worse than I ever could imagine was possible for me. I'm an English major, I've been reading nonsense for 4 years, how could I score a -14 (out of 27 questions) on this section?...

For the 5th section, I got -6, a little better than average for LR.

I ignored the 5th experimental section score, and my resulting LSAT was a 153.

Worse than I did even before I began studying.

What the hell happened.... I want to give up.

I can't find the Logic Games Bundle anymore... Is it still on the site?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-2-question-24/

i'm having a hard time understanding the answer for PT 54.2.24 ("there are 1.3 billion cows worldwide, and this population is growing....")

the answer is A (that cows given good quality diets would produce more meat/milk than they would otherwise), but i got this wrong because i thought it had nothing to do with the conclusion (i.e., methane production would be kept in check if cows were given better quality diets). i kept looking for a connection between diets and methane production, which led me to B (although i still had qualms about it since it didn't address the differential quality of diets). i can understand that A would potentially eliminate a counterargument to the conclusion, but why exactly is this the best answer when it doesn't address the methane issue (i.e., it doesn't directly address whether methane production would be "kept in check")? could you go over what exactly we should look for when strengthening the conclusion?

this question just threw me off -- the stimulus itself doesn't seem difficult but the answer choices just sucked! ;)

thanks as always for all your help!

jane

Hi,

New student here. I wanted to see, does anyone know of an easy to way to print out all of the materials for an upcoming lesson? If I could see and print all of the attachments (quizzes and such) that are part of each section, that would make the logistics much easier, because then I wouldn't have to spend as much time planning around access to a printer.

Prest Test 56 - section 2 - Q25.

Question removed. Please see video for question:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-2-question-25/

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Now, before I list the answers, please read my thought process so you can better understand where my head was at.

"In the long run... to use insecticides." --> Main Conclusion.

"Because insects... with insecticide use." --> Premise.

", farmers have to... to control insect pests." --> Sub Conclusion / Conclusion to the Above premise.

That's what I was thinking.

A.) It is the argument's main conclusion, but not its only conclusion.

B.) It is a CLAIM for which a causal EXPLANATION is provided and which itself is used as direct support for the argument's only conclusion.

C.) It is the argument's only conclusion.

D.) It is a claim that is used as direct support for an intermediary conclusion, which in turn is used as direct support for the argument's main conclusion.

E.) It identifies a phenomenom for which the argument's main conclusion offers a causal explanation.

*spoiler*

The second choice is the correct answer. Which implies that my labeling was wrong. The answer states that it was a claim (what i would consider to be a conclusion) and that it's accompanied by a "casual" (what the heck is that supposed to mean, LSAC,) "explanation," which is supposed to be the premise. It further states that this "claim" is used as direct support for the argument's ONLY CONCLUSION.

How is this the only conclusion!?? When the LSAT says Claim and Explanation in the answer choices or question stems, does it mean Conclusion and Premise or are these two phenomenon something different entirely?

I apologize if JY explained this in one of his lessons, but i seemed to have missed it and tracking it down seemed more time consuming than asking the forums.

Hi everyone,

I am taking the LSAT next week (Feb 8th), and am feeling very discouraged and losing a lot of confidence in myself. I'm from Canada and want to apply to a law school in Halifax, Nova Scotia, where they accept mid 150s-160s. So my goal for this LSAT is around those scores. I've been planning to take the LSAT since last August (2013), with the intention of taking it in October, and then December, and eventually delaying in until this Feb. I'm in my last semester of undergrad, and I have been struggling with keeping up my GPA and studying for this exam (but who isn't?) I don't want to further delay the exam because the application deadline is the beginning of March, so this is my last chance to take it. I've been studying consistently since the beginning of Jan (having already taking a PowerScore course and 7sages course previous to that), but my scores are not where I want them to be. I haven't gotten above a 150, and took a PT yesterday and scored a 146 (the worst I've ever scored). This is really destroying any confidence I have for the LSAT and am honestly just embarrassed because I have been working really hard at this. I've tried different strategies and approaches to see if my scores would improve, but to no avail. My LSAT is in a week, and it's completely unrealistic to think my scores will improve within a week. So I'm at a stand-still because I have been studying very hard, I've been focused, and following the routine that 7sage recommends (waking up at the same time everyday, exercise, eating healthy, etc). Has anyone else struggled with this? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated! I'm totally panicked.

**Please note - I am ONLY applying to Canadian law schools!

I’m writing the exams a week from tomorrow (February 8th).

When i have all the time in the world, i’m perfect on the flaw family questions (All assumptions, flaw, weaken and strengthen) but with timing, i freeze on them and get stumped, it significantly hinders my performance.

Should i be worried? I would prefer to write tests everyday but i’m scared i’ll burn out?

Can anyone please offer me advice on how i can possibly work on getting better?

Hi everyone.

My brain tends to go on shutdown during the latter half of the Reading Comprehension sections, and the last quarter of the LR sections.

No matter how many times I read, I get tired.

Will this go away during test day due to adrenaline, perhaps? I'm just so tired of taking practice tests and thinking to myself "screw this."

In my last LSAT Prep Test I missed EVERY QUESTION for the last reading passage, my brain just says "screw this" and starts day dreaming. Even with this mentality I've been scoring in the low 160s.. I really think if I can fix this problem I'll score in the 164-170 range.

Hey guys! I am taking my second round of the LSAT on Feb 8 and my studying is going well, but on the prep test I took yesterday I lost at least four points in my best section because I completely freaked out. I had taken the first two sections of the test completely fine, but by the time i got to section three its like my brain just wasn't reading anything. I've googled stress relief and have done basic stuff like exercise to get the jitters out, but does anyone have stress relief tips that you guys use during the test?

Hey guys,

I don't know if I am the only person having this problem but when I click on to my syllabus to continue my course it takes me to the page that says "Enroll in an online LSAT prep course" but I'm already enrolled and my course doesn't expire until June!!! Please help!

can someone please confirm this is how logic games are set up now http://imgur.com/DtBikmY. There have been multiple posts and understandably so. I believe a picture speaks 1000 words. If this pic is correct, it appears to have like an elongated horizontal 3/4 length of blank page under all the questions ( making flipping between a game unnecessary). does anyone think incorporating a page folded like this to logic games (http://imgur.com/saO3sxV) while P'Ting would be a bad idea. Although it is lose, it seems to give a semi-representation of an actual situation. I don't think having the same amount of space though on the actual age on the actual test day will be that much of a negative difference, how bout guys. If someone has a better idea i'm opening to listening to it. wat do u guys think?? any thoughts?

I find myself often finding something very helpful within the comments and discussion for different lessons.

It would be nice if students could bump up / like / upvote / etc comments so that the most relevant and insightful comments/discussions can be seen.

A feature of this sort will help most later in the site's existence when there are hundreds or thousands of comments on one video.

Hi 7sage(rs),

Should I be following the syllabus as is? I'm starting it now and I am a little bit ahead of schedule based on the syllabus. I noticed that the practice tests aren't until the very end. Should I be following it completely straight through and back to back by taking the 4 exams listed at the end of my syllabus or? Sorry if this question has already been asked. Trying to get the best of this program.

Last time I took Power Score and hardly understood anything that was going on. This time around I'm changing my study habits to studying in the morning prior to work given that I work 40 hour weeks and dedicating my weekends to studying also. Any advice on following the syllabus or not would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to score upper 150s. Thanks!

If anyone is able to explain any of the above questions, I'd be very grateful.

To be more specific:

Q13 - stuck between A and D

Q16 - was able to eliminate C & D, but chose E

Q22 - really didn't understand this one... I chose A under timed conditions, and E during BR...neither of which were correct

Thanks in advance.

13- http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-4-passage-2-questions/

16- http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-4-passage-3-questions/

22- http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-4-passage-4-questions/

Quick poll:

How much of an increase in your score have you seen with the 7sage program. I personally have a +12, which puts me in the 160s. I am wondering though what is the general consciences .

What are people's thoughts/preferences on bubbling? Do you bubble as you go or at the end of each section? Also is it safe to roughly fill in the bubbles(by roughly, I mean a quick dark scribble), I have this paranoia of having my answer sheet misread, so I find myself wasting a lot of time filling in the circle "properly"..

I plan on taking the June 2014 LSAT should I not receive my ideal score on the Feb. 2014 one.

I have inadequate knowledge as to whether or not having taken the LSAT twice adversely affects my shot at getting into a good law school. Any thoughts?

I teach quite a bit, and have a number of close friends who teach all over, from ESL teachers in other countries to teachers in high schools and universities -- and depending on the community, but especially in university, one thing that constantly comes up from students is this idea that we are living in a post-racial society.

It's hard to imagine anyone really feeling this way -- but what it suggests overwhelmingly is that so, so many people of this and the adjoining generations are completely sheltered from their own privilage.

I spend a lot of my time thinking about and writing about gender and race issues, and when stuff like the link I'm sharing below comes to the surface, it's hard not to feel sick to my stomach for days -- but it's also why this career choice of ours is important.

It doesn't even matter really what type of law you plan to go into. If you want to be a BigLaw partner and do corporate law, great. If you want to do PI work, double great. But on the road to obtaining that job, we will all be living for three years surrounded by the laws of our country. We will come out of that experience at the very least with a deep appreciation for why law is important, and most especially, the POWER that it has to do both great good and permit great evil.

Check this link out. Get angry over it -- please. Add it to your list of reasons why you want to go to law school: whether you want to work actively to end this kind of bullshit or not, one day after graduation you WILL bump into an opportunity to be a part of righting a wrong. This is the world we live in -- and we are going into one of the few professions that has a shot at changing it.

Let's kill the LSAT. Then, let's dominate in law school. Then, let's be the kind of lawyers and citizens that we want to be surrounded with -- and when opportunities arise to make a difference, let's use that education and experience to PROVE that's what we want.

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In a full LSAT, which games are usually the easiest and which ones are the hardest? I thought it was usually the first one is the easiest, then the remaining 3 are a combination of medium games and hard games (2 medium 1 hard, or 2 hard 1 medium). It's always better to start with the easiest ones so I'm wondering if there is any definite order to the level of difficulty of the games.

is there a short cut key that allows you to pause a video while you're scrolled down below the box the video is being played in (say b/c you're taking notes but after the answer choice of interest has stopped being talked about you want to pause the video). this is a very particular and perhaps unnecessary question but it would probably save a me several minutes over the span of a couple hours.... lol

Hey everybody,

I've been going through the curriculum for a few months now and have just taken my first timed PT. I did not do as well as I had hoped. Introducing the timed element to the questions really through me off, which has slightly discouraged me since I was getting most questions right when going through the syllabus. I know it's only the first test, but I would like to maximize my efficiency from this point forward, can I get some feedback from fellow 7Sager's on how you guys handled the timed element once you started taking PT's, and what method you used from this point on to review and enhance your score? Thanks so much everyone.