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Last comment wednesday, aug 26 2015

Norms of Break Time

What are the rules for what I can't do during the 15 min break?

- can I exit to use the bathroom?

- can I do some exercises in the hall (such as shadow boxing and pushups)?

- can I do some exercises in the test room (such as shadow boxing and pushups)?

- can I make noise (yet not enough noise to he heard in another room)

- can I leave the room to get some water?

Thanks in advance!!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-3-question-18/

Between Answer Choice A and B. I am having some issues.

I am looking at this question thinking ok, Historians do not take the playwrights serious because they exaggerate how bad their own socieities are compared to other societies. So Shakespeare will say English society is evil and french society is meh or good.

This makes A look attractive but B too.

A is a good answer because if playwrights are more critical of their own society than others then they are being inaccurate of their portrayls and it would explain why Historians do not want to use them.

B is good because he is saying playwrights exaggerate the bad for dramatic reasons. The reason I eliminated B was because we do not really know that they exaggerate the "Weakness" of a society or that it is even viewed as a weakness. It does resolve the discrpenancy kind of but I felt A was way way stronger answer.

A says explicitly why historians don't take it serious and it resolves both issues. Historians don't take it serious because the playwrights are just more critical and the playwrights want you to empathisize so they are more critical of their own society.

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Last comment tuesday, aug 25 2015

Pt 54 section 4 question 24

"Downtown petropolis boasted over 100 large buildings 5 years ago".

By poe I kind of am able to get to the answer E , bUT I don't understand why that is the answer.

Why "significantly fewer than 60"?? Is 100 the staple number of buildings for a healthy economy?

This question is the only one I do not understand...and I have seen it before!

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Last comment tuesday, aug 25 2015

Highest PT score ever

Just thought I'd share some great news. Took preptest 38 yesterday and scored 166 and a 170 after BR, which is my highest score ever with 7sage or PS. I barely broke 160 with PS and I scored a 165 on 7sage on Preptest 36. Not that I had doubts, but this really just reinforces my love for 7sage and their techniques. For anyone having trouble or stressing out, just know that you will get better as long as you put in some effort. Just for reference, I scored a 156 on the June LSAT using PS after having studied for 3 months. I work full-time and was concussed in April playing hockey so the concussion symptoms and post-concussion symptoms made it tough to focus (which I didn't realize until just recently, I guess I now know what to sat to schools when I explain my one LSAT is higher, hopefully, than the other). Again, the reason I am sharing is just to encourage others, even if you have a lot of obstacles, a job, injury, etc., you can still score well, just work hard. Good luck!

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Last comment tuesday, aug 25 2015

Silly mistakes

Hey all,

I've been doing pretty well on my PTs, but I'm finding that on the logic games, I'm consistently making 1-2 silly mistakes on the section. I know that test taking anxiety and feeling rushed are causing me to misread questions or answers, and it's painful to see these mistakes when I correct the section. I'm wondering how frequently others are making these kinds of mistakes and what they are doing to fix it. I've been getting better - taking more time reading the questions and answers, but it's still a problem. I'm wondering what your experience has been.

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I was wondering if anyone is familiar w/ any subtle differences between the two? (I did my LR through the Trainer, where the 'justify reasoning' questions are known as 'sufficient assumption', while the 'justify conclusion' ones are known 'supporting principle -- they're in the same chapter, and for both types, you're supposed to "fill in the logical gap").

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I started 7sage's lessons on RC today and I still feel clueless/helpless. First, I'd like to ask if anyone has seen dramatic improvement using the memory method. I gave it a test run today and I'm a bit skeptical (not counting it out, just my $.02 at the moment!). Fwiw, prior to 7sage I did a lot of practice sections and I would miss over half of the questions... In addition, I'm thinking of incorporating ideas from the trainer into 7sage's ideas, would you recommend this? They're not that drastically different.

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So I've been at this LSAT thing for a while. One aspect of test-taking I am really struggling with is consistency. On my last round of testing leading up to June 2015 my PTs regularly fluctuated between 162 and 171. This round of prep honestly hasn't been much better, with scores ranging between 165 and 178. I've controlled for repeated content as well as testing conditions like location, noise level, etc.

What I am coming down to is that most of my issues are around focus and consistency. I'm trying a few new things to address this, and I was wondering if anyone with similar problems with test taking can weigh in here - what have you done to "get in the zone" and perform consistently on your PTs?

What I'm doing:

-Big Picture: Trying to be aware of how my week is going at work and in life in general, and proactively preventing any issues or concerns from creeping into my prep by getting really proactive about keeping work and life separate from test prep

-Routine: For my weekly practice tests, making sure I get a good night's rest on Friday night, wake up on saturday and go biking, then eating and get ready in my workspace for test. Usually start testing around 11am each time I test.

-Mindset: try to do a mini-meditation where I completely clear my mind before I actually start the test - this is usually only a 2-3 "quick meditation" exercise where I try to get absolutely clear in my head, then snap into test-taking mode

-Logic Games: Creating a template for how I will lay out every game, its game pieces, rules, etc. and stick to that setup for every game

-Logical Reasoning: Forcing myself to focus and spend adequate time on every question by instituting a mandatory "1 free skip" rule

-Critical Reading: Focusing more on text and less on marking my passages, although working on how to make this a consistency thing I can bring to my test taking

-Also crushing my flashcards to make sure I don't slack on fundamentals

7sagers - what are you doing to get in the zone and ready for your tests? How do you deal with, uh, absurd fluctuations in your score that you are pretty sure are not due to repeated content or bad test taking conditions?

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Just wondering how valuable a retake score is. I took some later PTs (60s) back in March/April long before I discovered 7sage. If I thoroughly erase any writing on those tests, would I be able to get a decently accurate score? Should I give myself 30 mins per section instead of 35 to account for maybe remembering a question?

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Hey 7Sage,

When I was practicing some of the logic games, I found that a few of the video explanations had additional videos attached. When I watched those videos, I saw that JY was narrating them as the people in the videos were doing the questions in real time. I found this to be super helpful. One distinction that I struggle with are the techniques that I will actually be using when working through questions, versus the techniques shown in most explanation videos which are sometimes (for the purposes of teaching) drawn out and include way too many things being written to the side. I would love it if there were clear instructions as to what I will actually underline and actually note to the side when taking the real test. Also, seeing someone working the questions in real time and seeing how they do them is an awesome and very helpful perspective. I would love if every one of these problems sets that contained those videos was identified somehow on the syllabus, and I would love it even more if those videos existed for every problem set. Any chance that some of these are coming soon????

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For all of those taking the Dec. LSAT tomorrow evening we will start with PT 42.

If you would like to join please PM me your skype handle. Thanks!

@nicole.hopkins

said:

Note on all groups

  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Last comment tuesday, aug 25 2015

    Dealing with Struggles

    I just wanted to open a discussion on how everyone is dealing with struggle when in comes to studying specific sections. I am a self study and I find myself getting very emotionally attached when not performing well when studying. It then makes me feel discouraged, but the opposite is true. If I do well I will spend extras hours studying to boost my confidence. How do y'all handle this struggle? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

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    For all of those taking the Dec. LSAT on Sat. evening we will BR PT 43.

    Note on all groups

    • For the newbies: Please send a PM with your Skype handle.

  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Last comment tuesday, aug 25 2015

    Help for Law Passages

    Annoyingly (worryingly???) I have the most trouble on the law passages in RC. I'm not great with the law vocab and pretty terrible with the history of law. Especially those ones with things like the history the medieval British legal system. I'm like...what? I heard a great recommendation for law podcasts, but I really need something I can read and carry with me. Digital is fine too! Thanks in advance!

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    Hi all!

    I just started taking timed practice tests at the end of July and have noticed that I need to improve my speed in all sections. In logic games, I'm usually able to complete 3 games and then am able to complete 1 or 2 questions on the last game before time runs out. In logical reasoning, I'm usually able to complete 23/25 questions and then have 1 minute or so to split between the last two questions. In reading comp, most of the time I can complete the whole section in time, but sometimes I run out of time at about 25/27 questions.

    Any suggestions? I plan on taking 2-3 practice tests per week until the Oct test (I know... it's approaching so quickly, I'm terrified) but does anyone have anything concrete I can do to make sure my pace picks up before the test?

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    I just redid the logic games for preptests 75 that I took live and panicked over causing me to cancel my test. I scored a 20/23 and 2 of the misses came on the ridiculous last game. Things I thought were difficult on test day were likely just missed inferences and overthinking. Good luck to everyone in October.

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    Last comment monday, aug 24 2015

    Discouraging

    Hi,

    I have been studying for the Oct. 2015 LSAT since (essentially) July 1. I work a full-time job, and have recently moved to a new city, and have been adjusting to that.

    I had a very high GPA in college, which is why I am putting a lot of pressure on myself to do well this October. I feel like a score under 167 is unrepresentative of myself as a student.

    That being said, I have taken 5 practice tests (I realize this is few, I plan to take 30 in total), and have scored two points lower each time I take them (162 down to a 158 yesterday). This have been PT 52-56.

    I have been studying on my own, using resources given to me by friends who have scored in the 170s. I just recently found 7Sage, and have done only one BR.

    I can't afford to sign up for the entire 7Sage program, and feel at this point, it is too late. I am a month out of the test.

    I would really, really appreciate any feedback/reality checks. Because I work a full time job, I would REALLY like to be finished with this test after October, and get my applications in for this year. If December is necessary, so be it. I already feel burned out on studying... which is probably absurd giving how little I've.

    Thanks for such a helpful community!

    RW

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    Hi guys!

    Just a brief comment on the "trends" page of the score tracker.

    You recently changed the score tracker so that instead of showing a wide range of scores and graphing your scores within that, it shows your maximum and minimum score as the maxima and minima on that page, and then graphs all other scores within that range.

    I don't like this change at all. The reason for this is that it creates an artificial level of volatility in your scores. So, for example, when I graph my last 15 or so scores, the maxima and minima are 173/179. Therefore, with that limit on the graph, a score even decreasing from 178 to 177 (much less 179 to 175) looks like a huge leap, and honestly makes me feel a little bit anxious when I am looking at the page.

    A much better way to show the graph would be how you had it before. If you don't like that (which I understand, given that it can be near-impossible to show slight variations in scores) a better way to do it is make the range based on your maximum score+10 (up to 180) and your minimum score-10 (down to whatever the minimum LSAT score is -- 120?).

    Otherwise, I feel like it is very easy to lose perspective when you see an "abrupt decline" on the graph from whatever to whatever, which is easy when your range is within only 6 points.

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    Last comment monday, aug 24 2015

    Am I BRing wrong?

    So with about 6 weeks left until test day, it's time to start cracking down.

    Now I am happy with my current PT average. However, it seems like a waste of time to just hammer preptest after preptest for the next 6 weeks, especially if I have no problems with timing and stamina. So I've been taking more time with Blind Reviews to try to bring my score up a couple of points.

    But I think that I'm doing it wrong.

    So, I'll write my preptest, and circle any questions that I hesitated on. I'll then use a clean PT and go through the questions thoroughly, writing down "A is wrong because ____, B is right because _____, C is wrong because ______". Im consistently BR'ing in the 170s (I don't BR my Reading Comprehension, because I don't really see a point as there is no consistency to the types of questions I get wrong. Perhaps this is a problem too).

    If my BR is wrong, I'll watch an explanation on it. If I change my answer, I'll also explain to myself what I was thinking at first, and why it was wrong.

    ...but then once it's done, I don't really feel like I'm getting much out of it. I've done a BR like this for the last 4 tests now, and my scores have stayed relatively the same (165).

    Should I save the questions and come back to them again on another day? Perhaps should I only save the questions I still got wrong after a BR (as it's probably not the best way to spend my time going through all of them over again)?

    I just keep getting around the same score every time for every test. LG: usually 0 or -1, LR: average of -5/section, RC: average of -7.

    I think I've hit a window with RC, but I'd really like to bring my LR up 2 points/section. Am I BRing right? Should I add something else to what I'm currently doing?

    Thanks :)

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