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Okay. I'd like to say that I've been lsat prepping for about a year / year and a half or so, however, during this time I've been working full time hours, (multiple part time jobs) raising my daughter, finishing my bachelors degree and combating never ending family issues and unnecessary stresses. To be perfectly clear, I've been doing all the above (i.e. raising daughter, working fulltime ect.. for at least the past ten years) Yeah, I just turned 30 too....

What I am getting at is this, I feel so burnt out, depressed and stressed that I have little to no time to "properly" study and raise my scores in time for the October Test date. I've already pushed off the June Test to October. I plan on enrolling Fall 2016 and really stress about pushing the test back any further.

Time restraints are only getting worse. My primary work is starting up along with this upcoming fall semester ( I work for a local University ) and as a Liberal Arts major who studied criminology, sociology and psychology, my kids 4th grade algebra is a nightmare for me; go figure.

I want to say all the (lack there of) improvement is due to the stress and time restraints, but I've dealt with this for so long. I manged to graduate with Latin Honors in a difficult curriculum all while doing the same juggling act; however, this TEST is killing me.

As the title suggests, this is likely just a rant. But, are there any others out there who are in this boat?

At this point, I'm not sure how to study anymore. I've completed the Course/ albeit hastily in some areas; and I've been PT'ing as often as physically possible - which in my case turns out to be once a week! Usually a Sunday, then I sporadically BR throughout the week whenever I can.

Understandably, there isn't a real clear cut and dry answer to woes and restraints. However, there has got to be someone out there in the program who understands this and has something valuable to add to this.

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-43-section-3-question-21/

I am not sure if this is the right place to post question. But the video explanation was missing something to me.

So you have

Spring Cleanup

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Certificate

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Not Active in the art circle (some but some can mean all as well)

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Now there may be some kind of implicit assumption that Spring cleanup too place at the same time as the art fair. And some people at the spring cleanup are not active in town's artistics circles. So the assumption here is that if you did not go to the art fair, then you are not active in the town's artistic circles. And if you are active in artistic circles, you did go to the art's fair. It is also (seems) to be assuming that art fair and spring cleanup are mutually exclusive. We aren't really sure.

The answer choice makes no sense, we actually know nothing about people who ARE ACTIVE in the art circles. Which makes D impossible as an answer choice. You simply cannot conclude NOTHING about it. It Could Be True, but this is a MUST be true question.

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I enrolled 7sage ultimate course and learn a lot of efficient methods watching videos. But sometimes I found it very difficult to truly understand most of LR and RC problems in timed constraints.

So I bought a Trainer book and it arrived yesterday to get more personalized support . I would like to supplement my weakness especially in LR and RC after carefully reading it. I plan to take an exam in December, I want to decide the best available plan covering both 7sage and trainer. If you are using the above materials, what should I consider in order to get the most desirable outcomes?

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Last comment thursday, aug 20 2015

Careless Mistakes

I usually get -2 to -4 on LG but I feel at least a good 75% of these are from careless mistakes. They're often really easy questions, so as one can imagine, this is really frustrating. I'm not sure why I was so careless most of the time. Perhaps I relied too much on memory/instinct and didn't explicitly check the answer against each rule I diagrammed. Any tips or words of advice?

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I was looking at another forum and saw this hilarious post. Thought I'd share:

"This questions sucks. It makes me want to start a forest fire. How do you even go about breaking this down and then how do you justify D? I didn't like any of the choices. I see how the genetically malignant minds of LSAC rationalize D as the correct answer but it's a tough sell. I don't see how the argument hinges on this assumption and how I would even attack a similar question. Any insight would be much appreciated. IF I don't get an answer within 48 hours a tree will die . . . then another until I am appeased. I'm getting my Leatherface on."

I like how creative he/she was in said threats. I hope a tree didn't pay the price...

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Hi all,

I recently started 7sage with my main focus being on games--I did do the conditional lessons and a few other previous lessons and am now working a ton of sequencing problems. When should I move on to "sequencing with a twist?" after I can pick up any random new game I haven't seen and can do it perfectly and in time? Or after I am substantially faster and better (though not perfect and on exactly time) on sequencing? How many questions would you go through with the practice-make copies-review-process before moving to the next games lesson? I'm worried I'll just be practicing some games forever without learning new techniques ever...studying for the October but most likely will change test date for December, but still want to be studying at a decent rate as if taking the october (in case a miracle happens and I decide I want to take it)

Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-47-section-3-question-19/

When you encounter the word "contributes" on the LSAT, do you take this to be a "causation" word? For example, if I tell you that "high cholesterol contributes to heart disease". Would you say that high cholesterol is a cause of heart disease? I always have assumed so, but PT 47, S3, Q19 threw me off by equating "contributes" (which I thought implies causation) to "is associated with" (which I thought implies mere correlation).

The word "is associated with" was on the stimulus, and the word "contributes" was in the correct answer (C). I did not choose this answer because I thought that I would be making an assumption from correlation to causation by picking it.

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Last comment wednesday, aug 19 2015

Panic after preptest

So, my LSAT story is that I basically started studying on and off last summer. I finally decided to commit to the October LSAT this year and got really serious about studying this summer. My original, cold diagnostic was a 155. I have used the LGB and self-studied. Panic soon set in, and I decided to sign up for a 7Sage course. I love it so far, but I just took the June '07 test and scored a 146 and a 149 on BR. So far in my 7Sage curriculum, I have been through general lessons like intro to arguments and grammar.

How lost of a cause am I? At this point I don't even know if law is for me if I can't even improve after studying. Do I just keep going through the 7Sage course?

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Last comment wednesday, aug 19 2015

Valid Argument Forms

Hi Everyone!

I am currently working on memorizing the valid argument forms and I was just wondering if there were any study methods yall used to help you memorize them aside from the curriculum. I have had a bit more trouble with this section than I have with others so any feedback or suggestions that may have helped yall master these concepts would be greatly appreciated!

Best,

Liz

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Last comment wednesday, aug 19 2015

Thank you, 7Sage!

I would like to thank all the staff at 7Sage for not only helping me, but the rest of us. I would also like to thank the community for all of its help, with a special shoutout to @Pacifico who helped me a lot through PMs.

I don't have much time to write this, because I was admitted to the law school of my choice! I could not have achieved this without the help of 7Sage and the community. The only downside is, I was admitted 2 days before the semester started. The workload is hitting me like a brick wall! Classes are extremely interesting, and the readings are very interesting. The only difficult part is getting into rhythm, learning to outline, and stay 40-60 pages ahead of the assigned readings (recommended by the law professors.)

I hope all your studies are going well, and I hope to stay on this forum whenever time permits.

Even in hard times, whether it's studying for the LSAT or anything else in life, remember, the carousel never stops turning (kudos if you get the reference)!

Thank you, guys and gals!

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Last comment wednesday, aug 19 2015

LSAT dates

Does anyone know the 2016 dates? I found a PDF online that appeared to be from LSAC (last updated Nov. 2014) that had the date set for late September and not October. Could this be correct? Has a test ever been administered in Sept? Thanks.

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I eliminated B and D and chose C. I am really stumped on the reasoning for this. I picked C because I thought the loss of teeth and traveling at the back of the herd could be correlated with: groups they live in-->diets--->size and shapes of face.

Can someone help me understand this reasoning? Please!!?

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When JY is explaining not ( group 4 Logical operator) he does not apply the not to the come home idea. i understand its function as a logical operator but why doesn't not affix itself to /CH as in the description of Group 3.

if not is the L.O. and u have to negate the second idea, but it seems to me the the properties of not should apply to the ( 1st idea) come home idea!

Obijuan, please explain!

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Last comment tuesday, aug 18 2015

Logical negation

The logical negation of "At least some rhinoceroses whose horns are periodically trimmed off will be able to attract mates," is "none of the rhinoceroses whose horns are periodically trimmed off will be able to attract mates." correct?

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Hey guys! Just wanted to ask what you think the best resources for Logical Reasoning are out there. I would especially like to work on parallel reasoning/ flaw, and logic heavy questions (they tend to slow me down when I diagram them). I have read the LR Bible, seen the 7Sage videos, and done PTs. Thank you!

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Last comment tuesday, aug 18 2015

Logic Games Bundle

Hi All,

I think I'm good with the Logic Games theory and I'm about to start the Logic Games bundle.

For those who have already done it, approximately how long did it take you to get through it all, including the fool proof method?

Thank you for your time.

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Wednesday, August 19th at 7PM ET: PT63

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    Last comment tuesday, aug 18 2015

    TONIGHT! PT74 BR | 7pm ET

    PT74 BR Tonight at 7pm ET

    This is how I feel right now.

    Someone come pull me out of my pink plastic prison. Oh and join us for PT74 BR group tonight.

    Note on all groups

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Last comment tuesday, aug 18 2015

    Guidance Needed :(

    BLAH.

    I took prep test #62 today and had to stop when I couldn't complete the Logic Games section. I just couldn't move past it. That has never ever ever happened to me before in the entire time I have been practicing for the LSAT.

    I don't know what to do at this point. I've been studying for an entire year. I took the December LSAT and received a 155. I decided to take the October LSAT of this year, so I've been studying consistently since December.

    I started PTing at the end of May and I started with 1 a week. Since then, I've taken 10 exams and my average is 165 with a BR average in the 170s.

    I took a mini vacation for a week and a half and managed my first 170 at the end of July.

    Since then, I've felt.......... burnt out. I tried to take a few breaks last week (after scoring a disappointing 161), but today I had a panic attack and couldn't even finish the exam.

    I don't know what to do at this point. I took some advice and stopped drilling LR sections, as that was probably contributing a lot to my burn out, but if my mark keeps plummeting I don't know if it's in my best interest to write in October?

    I just feel lost.

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    Hey guys,

    so i started doing prep tests today and i really need help with RC. I scored a 149 but my LG and LR are doing not bad, still definite room for improvement, but what killed me was my RC i got 7/26 (timed) like WTF!!!!! if i would have gotten 10 more answers correct i could have got a decent score. This is the lowest ive ever scored but i cant have this problem during my October test otherwise its bye bye law school hello becoming a janitor....ok maybe not that drastic but you get the point.

    Anyways i really need help with this section obviously and i am looking to you beautiful people to help me out. My biggest issue is definitely timing. I am guessing on average 10 questions each timed section.

    Also, i have been hearing about this LSAT trainer. For those who have this, is this better than the method JY teaches? Would anyone recommend this? Do you think i would have enough time to figure out this method before the october LSAT

    If you guys have any tips or recommendations for me it would be greatly appreciated

    Best Regards

    The Chupacabra

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    I learn best by explaining to others. Is their anyway that a feed can be created that automatically adds the newest comments on videos/the coarse to a list that provides the link to the problem and comment.

    Say you are working through the LAWGIC chapter and you comment that you don't understand contrapositive on slide 34/55. Your comment would automatically move to the #1 spot on a list with a link to the slide, that way you could get an answer within minutes instead of 3 months later.

    Just thought it could help people like me really concrete the ideas and also get new studiers a quicker response.

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