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I took the June and decided to retake it again this October. Over the first part of my studying after the June test I was feeling really good about my progress. Recently however, my LR scores have been tanking.

I have been Blind Reviewing everything and taking a lot of time to really dig into the questions I get wrong. I also seem to understand most of the arguments and answer choices; on Blind Review usually end up with -1 or -2 and that process had seemed to be really helping me for a while (especially on LG and RC). I am also not pressed for time when taking sections or PT's... I have been getting 6 or 7 wrong regardless of whether I slow down and take almost the whole 35 min or go at a faster pace of around 27 min (or anywhere in-between)

Right now my plan is to go back and redo the LR lessons from the course, as my best scores came right when I had finished all the lessons. I feeling like I have such a good understanding of the test which is why I am kind of at a loss. Any advice or strategies that people have found useful is more than welcomed, thanks (... am I sleeping, eating and at least going outside now and then)

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Hi fellow LSATers!

I'm looking for study buddies for the October 2013 exam, as I'll be studying full time up until the exam.

I'm currently scoring in the 167-170 range, and would like to consistently hit 170+ by October.

Bonus if you're strong(er) in Reading Comp/Logical Reasoning but weak(er) in Games, as I am the opposite and we could complement each other.

Ideally interested in meeting up/Skyping to bounce ideas off of one another, discuss strategy, and see different thought processes to arrive at the credited response.

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So I have been studying since the beginning of August in hopes of taking the October LSAT. I work full time in a law firm and have a 2 hour commute. After taking numerous LSAT's and blind reviewing them I have only been able to score up to a 155. My goal is to get up into the 165-170 area. SO I am now rescheduling for december.

Does anyone have any advice for me? J.Y. told me to switch my studying to the morning instead of the afternoon, however I can only really get in an hour before work. Any earlier and I am looking at waking up at 4 am.

I have the powerscore bibles, kaplan drill books, powerscore class books, this resource. I am willing to put in the time and have made up a "plan" with my buddy to meet 3 times a week. However, I really want to start seeing some results and I feel kind of lost starting over again. I want to apply this cycle, but I also don't want to half-a** it.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Monday, Sep 9, 2013

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Do any of you guys try "predicting the answer" after reading the stimulus and question stem on LR but before reading the answer choices? I recently started attacking the problems this way and have since found them more manageable. I think it's because one of the most challenging aspects of LR is parsing really convulted material in a short period of time...something so verbally taxing is only made worse when trying to juggle answer choices that are all designed to tempt you. I noticed that I started employing this method naturally over time but didn't see improvement until I did so actively. Granted, you can't always predict which angle they'll take but doing so will at least give you the advantage of understanding the parts of the argument more thoroughly.

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Hey guys,

I revisited one of my old PTs and got stuck at this question because I am not really understanding what the stimulus is saying. It's about politics and yes, I have ZERO interest in politics so it is extra hard for me to see what the author is saying.

BTW, the link:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-22/

Ok, so I do understand up to the point where the author's argument begins.

Poor candidates need money from rich dudes to win elections and therefore likely to compromise their views (to align their views with their patrons).

But this sentence is giving me a hard time: "But since the wealthy are dispersed among the various political parties in roughly equal proportion to their percentage in the overall population."

In roughly equal proportion to their percentage in the overall population? What? Does 'overall population' mean literally the population of a country? Or does it mean population of the party?

And what does this have anything to with whether or not the candidate will or not compromise?

POE got me to B because the others are very irrelevant but I really want to understand the logic behind it.

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This thread might be geared more towards the instructors... Anyhow, I was wondering if there are certain benchmarks one should meet with X amount of weeks left to expect X range in score. For example, if writing the October test (t-minus 4 weeks!) where should one be today if they were looking to score a 165 ? A 170? I guess it's reasonable to expect a steadily increasing score until test day if you haven't quite reached your potential yet. At the same time, I think it could be strategically better to set more realistic expectations. Any advice?

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Currently on PT 57.

Due to time limitations I am taking every 1-2 LSATs as full length timed, and doing the in-betweens as timed sections. Devoting time to BR is also demanding so I make sure I have enough time to attend to both BR and taking timed tests/sections.

I'm currently scoring about 170-172 before BR. I managed to get 180 after BR on PT 56. My biggest weakness is still LR.

I have the entire month of September to devote towards this test. How can I make the final push for as high of a score as possible? Due to circumstances my goal is basically a 180 or as close to it as possible. This is my only chance for getting into one of the lower of the T14 schools.

I'm going over questions I got wrong and understanding what I did wrong. I'm also going over lessons from the syllabus when I find that a certain type of question is giving me a lot of trouble. Current weakness is LR where I am still getting many questions wrong.

With that in mind, how should I schedule my studying for this month? This is the final assault and I'm finding it VERY hard to increase score.

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Okay guys so basically, I wrote a pt a few weeks ago only to get a 149. So I've drilled a ton in the meantime both in LG, some rc, and lots of LR. I take one today, and I got a 145 somehow. Misread a rule on a LG, crashed and burned so badly on RC. Did terribly. However, I've been BR'ing my test, without like at the answers as we are told here, and I've been adding in the BR'ed sections throughout the day.

So, I've got my 145 from todays pt, but with my BR im up to 156 and I've still yet to do my RC BR section (which I got like 9-10 right on - didnt even make it to the last passage at all ran out of time)

i'm hoping I'll end up at atleast 160 when I finish up my BR of this PT fully tomorrow morning, but I guess I've just gotta ask: What does this really mean for me? It felt like a punch in the stomach when I got such a low score back after I've put in so much careful work, but at the same time I feel like its so unrepresentative of what I'm capable of, even with my given skill at this moment. The BR kind of just made me think this more.. but what do you guys think?

Is it possible I'm just awful with timing but my fundamental skills are pretty solid?

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I just don’t see where the author endorses anything. The author, to me, doesn't seem to reveal anything about where he/she comes down on this debate. I just can’t find one word that would do this. It seems instead, that the author is going out of his/her way to stay detached using phrases such as “she points out”, “she maintains”, “they maintain” “Gluck observes”. Could someone please point out one word that indicates the author is not indifferent?? I hate to say it, but JY did not provide much of an explanation on this question, though he is great with the other questions. (Still got much love for you bro!)

Passage: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-3-passage-2-passage/

Questions: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-3-passage-2-questions

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Hi, is there a list of which logic games are included in which homework PDFs? For example, to which PDF does Preptest 29, Game 2 belong? I ask because I have these logic games printed out (without the cover page) and now I can't remember what goes where...and somehow am not finding it just sorting through the PDFs on my computer. Help?

EDIT: Heh, well I figured out which PDF my "orphan" games are from...I still think a reverse-lookup list might be helpful, though. :-)

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Hey guys, first of all here is the link to this question.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-3-question-13/

I seem to be having a lot of problem with questions that require mathematical understanding.

I got this question right through POE, but having a real hard time trying to understand why the correct answer is correct.

So the premise is about the relative difference in the percentage of INJURY between accidents involving large and small cars within the sample of 10,000 accidents (large cars = lower, small cars higher percentage).

And the conclusion is about the general likelihood of being INJURED in large vs. small car accidents (large cars safer).

So far so good, but.. where the hell is the FLAW?

Jon explains the shift in scope by saying that the conclusion is about ABSOLUTE numbers, and it would make sense if it is indeed about absolute numbers (remember, percentage -> absolute number is flawed).

BUT, the conclusion explicitly states "one is less LIKELY," which does not seem to indicate absolute numbers.

Please help!!

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What are your tips on how to improve on the Reading Comp section?

I notice that I get a handful of questions wrong on every Reading Comp section and I'd like to hear from fellow 7sage students as to how they best tackle the passages. 7sage recommends understanding every sentence before reading on, being an active reader, feigning interest in the passage if necessary, and "pushing back".

Are there any rules that you live by for Reading Comp? What have you found to be most effective? How do you "read actively"?

I find it best to mentally summarize each paragraph after reading it and trying to relate it to the other paragraphs in the passage. I also try to stay vigilant for the author's tone and opinion. For more technical passages, I try to be extra careful for referential phrasing.

Feel free to share!

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Does anyone have any good advice on improving consistency within each section. I've been taking about 4 prep tests a week for a while now, and my score fluctuates anywhere from -2 to -8 in LR, and -3 to -9 in RC. Its super frustrating because Im generally doing well on 3 of the sections, and then all of the sudden, I get a -8 or -9 and it kills my score. I'm having trouble figuring out why this is happening, and simply going over the answers I got wrong, while helpful, isnt fully doing the trick..

anyone else have this problem with some good tips??

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basically atm my last pt a few weeks ago was 149 starting from a 140. Kinda thinking i am screwed for october, might have to push back to december. i ordered the bp lg game book so if I get good jumps in lg it may help a lot.

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I'm still getting like 10 wrong in LR and its disheartening because I've been taking timed sections out of PTs (don't have time to do full length except on weekend) and I just seem to do so badly on LR than any other section.

I'm getting -0 to -2 on RC and LG combined but LR has been a nightmare.

I need a score as high as I can get so I can beat the declining medians and get into a good school. However, this is proving hard because I'm getting 10 wrong on LR...

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Hi guys ,

I have been trying hard to improve upon my LSAT strategies for all sections and must say that have been able to do fair enough for LR and RC sections. But I am so tense as I can't happen to get most of my logic games correct. Honestly the only game I have improved is linear games, but rest all I tend to mess up in my head always, and even if I were to get it right I would take so much time that I would just be able to get through one of all 4. Please help I need serious advice on how to get hold of different types and master them. Your input is seriously appreciated. Thanks

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So, my recent PT score was 170 timed, 180BR! I'm pumped. Thanks 7Sage, everything is coming along nicely.

-0 LG

-1 RC

-4 LR

-5 LR

I missed 3 questions because of incorrect bubbling, though I circled the correct answer! Just a warning for others out there. Be careful bubbling.

I missed 2 because I ran out of time on the first LR and guessed on the last two. The lesson I learned from this, is not to vacillate on questions. There were a couple early on that I wasted time on. You really have to trust your intuition on some of the questions, and realize you don't have time to do a full diagram, etc... you just have to select an answer just because it feels right.

I missed one because I didn't know the definition of a word used. lol

In the end there was only one that I feel I "should've" gotten wrong as it took a long time on BR to solve.

All of the errors could have been avoided had I not misread details while being rushed. I felt like slapping myself on most of the errors I made.

Anyway, just a "high five" to JY. Thus far I've gone from a raw score in the 50's before 7sage, to a 66 midway through, 70's after the course, to hitting 89 on a 99point test after a few tests/BR.

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