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I just took PT 50 after going through the syllabus and I did TERRIBLY on the LR. I just blanked out while taking the test because some of the LR questions were SOOO much harder than the questions I drilled using Cambridge packets.

I got 1 wrong on RC (ran out of time on the last question... but I got it right during blind review! still I did run out of time...), 14 wrong on LR (S***!!!! Even after blind review I had 8 wrong :/), and 2 wrong on LG (missed an inference... thankfully got it during blind review).

I couldn't even understand some of the LR stimuli and wanted to cry lol.

How do you suggest I go about getting better at LR? My plan was to do PT's every 3-4 days in August and September starting from #50 and hope to hit 175+ but after this I feel like an idiot. I followed JY's methodology (I think 7sage is the best course I've taken to prepare for LSAT) but there is something wrong with my comprehension level that I am still struggling. How can I improve? Please I have just two months to set LR straight.

I scored a 16x something on the 2007 june PT.

tl;dr My comprehension level is lacking when it comes to LR questions and I am unable to understand some of the stimuli. I know I can do the questions because 7sage's methods have been VERY helpful but I was unable to answer some of the LR's on the PT in time even though I did reasonably well when going thru cambridge drill packets answering each question in less than 1.5 min.

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Hello, I am planning to review the course, so I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of the green check in front of each lesson, which really gets in my way of doing this. Thanks!

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Some classes of animal are so successful that they spread into virtually every ecosystem...

Answer: the argument is flaw because "what is true of a whole is also true of its constituent elements"

However, It seems to me that the argument is quite valid. All insects are so successful and ants are the most successful among insects, we can conclude that ants are also successful, which means is not a threatened species. I can't find "whole" "part" flaw here. Anyone help me ?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-48-section-1-question-17/

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I don't know if anyone has this problem and I know the obvious answer to this question would be to just slow down and take more time but I was wondering if anyone finds themselves repeatedly mis-recording rules - messing up something very simple - such as replacing one variable letter with another. I am finding I don't miss infrences as much as I make a dumb mistake such as mis-recording a rule under timed conditions. It is problem, i believe, directly related to trying to get down the rules as fast as possible in order to give myself the most amount of time on the game. However, one slip in the smallest detail while recording the rules can destroy your timing if you have to go back once its been noticed (which is almost always the case, lol). If anyone has had this problem and had any specfic drill, exercies, w/e, that they used to over come it, I would be more than willing to hear them out about it.

Thanks

Jake.

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Hello all!

Just out of curiosity, can you guys/gals list a few of your prep habits/exercises that you do or have picked up from someone else (other than preptests, timed preptests, the obvious, etc) that you feel are effective? Example: reading The Economist to stimulate comprehension skills, waking up every Saturday and taking a test at the time you are scheduled to take the LSAT, etc. Thanks and Good Luck!

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Wondering for the LR, if J.Y. suggests us doing them (IE: drilling them) in the order they are given in the syllabus, due to their nature of building on one another? Or am I wrong in this thinking?

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Just came across a discussion where LSAT takers were saying they start at the middle of the LR sections, essentially getting the hardest questions out of the way first. then working on the easier ones last (1-10/11), since you can speed read those quicker. Do you recommend this approach? I've never heard of this before, they say this is where they saw their biggest jumps.

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* Premise:

- TV news watchers have NO expectations of careful discussion of public issues.

- newspaper readers have the expectation of careful discussion of public issues.

* Conclusion: In contrast to regular newspaper reading, regular watching of network television news programs increases the tendency to think of public issues in oversimplified terms.

*** WEAKENING Answer: Regular watchers of network television news programs are much more likely than other people to be habitual readers of newspapers.

(PT 11/Section 2/#18)

I can see how the answer overlaps the two demographic groups(newspaper readers and TV watchers), but can't the conclusion still stand? Even if the same people watch the news AND read newspapers, the action of watching news itself(=the subject of the conclusion) can still have its impact. Whether they do read the newspapers or not, anybody who watches the TV news are still subjected to the influence of watching TV.... No?

Can anyone point out the critical flaw in my reasoning?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat11-section-2-question-18/

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Hi all, this question comes from PT35, section 1, question 23, i chose E on this one. Can anyone share your thoughts on why E is incorrect?

I thought the author makes assumption that in order to survive, you need to have many beliefs, and then the statistician's rule is all about overall correctness of the total set of one's belief. So the author is implying if you want to survive, you need to have many correct beliefs, right? given the statistician's rule, this is not going to happen, so that is why they are incorrect.

Thanks in advance!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-23/

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Today I do PT46, which is the first PT I do after diagnose.

I got actual 159(76 right), BR 167(87 right).

Actual Reading 19/27, Game 20/22, LR 19/25, 18/26

Blind review: Reading 23/27, Game 21/22, LR 23/25, 20/26

Time management is still a big problem, I can't finish every section except games.

Is it possible for me get 170 on October? I plan do 3 PT a week with Blind Review.

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Hey a little background info for me on my LSAT life

Started studying in May - May and June were mainly LG stuff ,and I wasn't studying properly really. I started studying properly in June, and July is almost done now. I diagnostic at 140, so In about 2.5 months I made a 10 point jump.

My breakdown was about : RC - 15, LR:13, LR 15, LG 14 (these are the amounts I got correct)

I also feel I did not perform as good as I could have today, I felt really tired and not focused but was anxious to see where I was at. I think I made some dumb mistakes here and there that probably cost me a few points. For example, one of the questions I was looking over said only 1% chose the answer I picked, which was wrong. This tells me its a really dumb error on my part, and this was in LR which is usually my best section.

What is everyones opinion? My goal is to get LG's down to at least just -3, but preferably to -0. LR, strangely, didn't show much improvement although I have been drilling it a lot lately which kinda of sucks. Hoping to get that score up as well.

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Hi all!

I'm looking for someone/some people to write preptests with Toronto. I think that the social pressure will make me take it more seriously and give me a bit more discipline. And then after we can do blind review together. Let me know if you're interested. I will most likely write the tests at Robarts library at U of T as I can't think of anywhere better to go haha.

Caitlin

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Hi everyone,

I live in the Chicago area, and I'm studying heavily for the October LSAT administration. I'm looking for someone who is scoring in the low 160's right now so that we can both learn together. I'd prefer someone who actually lives in the Chicago area so that we could ostensibly meet up once in a while, but I'm also fine with skype/google hangout/facebook/whatever.

As another poster put it, I'm "gunning for a 180," and I'd really love to collaborate with someone who is similarly motivated.

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Hello all,

I've just started taking full length timed tests, starting with preptest 42 and plan on completing 43-69 up to the October test. I am currently scoring around the low 160's. My big issue is timing with the Reading Comp. I'm consistently scoring -2 or less on games, and around -4 or -5 on LR. Can I improve my score enough to get around a 170? I feel if I can just improve on my RC timing within the next 25 or so preptests I take, I should be all set for October. Thanks for your help!

Chris

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Passage: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-2-passage-3-passage/

Question: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-36-section-2-passage-3-questions/

The selection is the one about hormones and influences on behavior. The intro/background says that "discussions" about hormones and behavior have only talked about sex hormones.

16 has given me a lot of trouble. The right answer is C, but I have a problem with that because the passage does not say anything about "earlier research" at all. It only says "discussions," and therefore I eliminated that answer choice because it seemed to be adding claims that aren't present in the passage.

I'd really appreciate it if someone can explain to me why this shift in term is acceptable here, since generally answers can be eliminated for being out of scope if they use different types of terminology.

I'm especially worried because this seems to be a serious confidence error--I was sure that C was incorrect, since it seemed to be using more specific language (in my opinion, language indicating something that is uniquely different), than what the passage says.

Thanks!

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Taking in October. Doing great on games, and really love In/Out games. But one of my biggest concerns for test day is that I won't recognize an I/O Game as an I/O Game right away. I say this because there are a number of past games that JY runs as I/O Games (genius), but that others don't run as I/O Games because the cues aren't that obvious. When we're practicing, we usually know it's an I/O game because it's in a bundle or part of a quiz. But once or twice on prep tests, I've hit a game and only a few minutes in did I realize it was an I/O game.

This is a very long way of asking if there is a lesson that I missed, or if anyone has some good cheats, for a foolproof way to spot an I/O Game instantly.

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So i'm going through the LR practice questions and I get about every Strength question right. But, I do awful in the weaking questions. And I know both are so similarly so I cannot understand why. I am also very strong in MSS section so maybe I am just taking the same approach. Would like some ideas or help to improve.

Is anyone else having the same problem?

Chris

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I feel kind of hopeless on LG. I've improved since I've been studying, but I figured after a few months I'd have them down, but its not the case. I still get trouble with some double layered sequencing games, and I havent really done much grouping yet. I do the games - watch the 7 sage video - memorize the inferences through printing a bunch of copies out. I duno what to do now. I practice them for hours a day and I feel like I am not gaining much progress on them. (I have both the LGB and MLG)

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Friday, Jul 12, 2013

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I recently just took a proctored practice test and on my first try I only scored a 140. This was without any studying except for about an hr looking at 1D games (which I got correct on the exam). Is there any way I would be able to achieve over a 160 then? I hear so many people saying that they have gotten 160s on their first practice test, but if that was with studying, Idk? Anyways... I think fear of failure is setting in for some reason. What do you guys think about the first PT marks? I am writing in October.

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Hi! I took the June 2013 LSAT and got a decent score but I know I can do better. I did the Kaplan online class, which didn't really help me all that much. I was wondering if this is different enough from Kaplan to help raise my score? I don't live close to any in-class options so I can only do online anyways. Any suggestions on other study material would be great! thanks!

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Is anyone else aiming for perfection? I realize this is a very remote possibility, but I feel like it's really helping my prep just to have such a lofty goal, and I'll benefit from it even if I don't actually pull it off on test day. It's forcing me to address every possible weakness.

From Dec '09 to Dec '12 the frequency of the most questions missed to still hit 180 was:

-1 (30% likely)

-2 (40% likely)

-3 (30% likely)

Obviously, this is would take a confluence of skill and luck on the actual test, as well as not getting stuck with a -1 test. I have scored 178 three times over the past 5 tests, but these were PTs in the 20s, and those were raw scores of -5,-7,-4. On the Dec '12 test, those raws would have only been 177,175,178 respectively. So, I still have a long way to go to have a chance at accomplishing the impossible dream. I've got just under 2 months of prep under my belt, and I just signed up for this site a few days ago. I already feel like the "Lawgic" lessons are helping me. Thus far, I have not been diagramming conditionals in LR. I think that is going to net me a question here and there. I'm going to go through the entire curriculum to see what else I can pick up.

I am scoring -0 or -1 on most LG sections, anywhere from -0 to -2 on each LR section, and consistently -2 with a few -1 on RC sections.

In order to pull this off, I will need to first not pull a -1 test, and then on test day come up with a -0 LG and -2 over both LRs and RC (-3 if I am lucky enough to pull a -3 test)

Again, very unlikely, but a handful of people do pull this off every cycle.

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