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Last comment thursday, jun 25 2015

Separate game board

I'm just now starting to do logic games, and it is completely foreign to me. My question: Do we not write on our master game board with inferences and rules annotated on it? Sorry, if it seems like a silly question; I am just super confused.

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Hey everyone,

So in roughly 2 days I should be done the core curriculum ultimate course. As I've been going along with the course I've bought the huge LR packet for LR, which has all the questions for every question type, like weakening, main point, NA etc.

While I've been doing the massive packets I've been putting every .pdf I've completed into the completed folder, and I was assuming once I'm done the 7Sage course I'll probably be done them all.

So unfortunately I have 4 .pdfs leftover. The first one is called Complete the Passage, (which one of the following most logically completes the paragraph, they have a big ____ in the stimulus). There's only 19 of these Questions so I'm not too concerned, I'll just apply the skills I learned from LR to do them.

Second one is also just 16 questions labelled evaluate, and the question stems say stuff like which one of the following would be most relevant in evaluating the conclusion of blahblah. Again not super concerned.

The third one is Paradox questions, and I've seen that term thrown about here in the forums too. There's 126 questions, and I don't see 7Sage having any lessons for them which kind of worries me.

The last one is called Principle (Identify), note that this is not the same as Principle (Apply) questions. I did those questions already, and they related to the lessons that 7Sage provides on principle questions. But these principle identify questions seem a little different, so I'm not sure how to approach them, maybe the same way I approach principle apply questions?

Sorry for the lengthy post but I really needed some feedback! I know lots of people here complement the Cambridge packets, so I thought it might help other people as well.

Also I'm guessing I'll most likely just have to use the skills I learned in LR from the other questions and apply them to these question types, but I'm hoping maybe 7Sage has some examples, especially for the Paradox questions.

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Last comment thursday, jun 25 2015

Studying.

What have people found to be the most efficient way of studying. I am almost done with my 7Sage lessons, and wondering how I should continue my studies. I have all the prep tests out there, and all the Cambridge question specific drill packets. The only drilling I have done is the drilling at the end of each section the 7sage course provides. I am registered for the December Administration, and want to utilize the 5 months that I have to drill and PT in the most efficient way possible. I am not looking to get good at this test, I am looking to achieve close to perfection, if not perfection itself. I want to know what you guys have done to dominate this test. What techniques you used to drill, PT, and overall to get really good at this test.

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Does anyone think it hurts your chances of scholarship if you only apply to one school? my question is basically: Does having multiple applications and offers out there foster an environment of competition for qualified candidates, Basically rewarding u for attending their schools, OR do u get rewarded the same way if you have good qualifications and only apply to one school?!

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Last comment thursday, jun 25 2015

Content display issue

I have the Ultimate Package. When I log in and press continue on the dashboard, it shows one set of problems for "Strengthening Problem Set 1" but when I go to the syllabus and scroll down to the same link, it shows less problems and it just looks different. Wondering if there is something wrong.

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Howdy, folks—

It's week 3 and it's hot in Texas. Let's blast these PT's with some AC (Aggressive Collaboration ... though air conditioning will also be on!).

Wednesday, June 24th at 8pm EST: PT49

It's our last PT in the 40's and contains that infamous Maize RC passage. Let's make those kernels pop.

Friday, June 26th at 8pm EST: PT68

For those of us who want to be able to retake and/or drill from tests up to PT71, we will have Friday sessions to BR those later tests. This is likely to be a smaller group but open to anyone.

Note on the Friday group: If you want to join, let me know on Skype (nikkers625) and I will add you to this one—all are welcome, some are willing. Most are trying to make valid inferences and/or diagramming these sentences in their heads right now. #so-meta

LSATurday, June 27th at 8pm EST: PT50

Finally made our way to the 50's.

Note on all groups

  • For the newbies: PM me with your Skype handle. You can also add me on Skype, using handle nikkers625 .
  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hi everyone, I just took the June LSAT. Currently, I trying to write my personal statement while waiting for the LSAT results. English is my second language (born in South America), so creating strong sentences to express my thoughts becomes challenging sometimes. I would like to know, what you guys are doing concerning advising and editing (your essays). Do you guys know any services that can assist you in this writing process?

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    This is a NA question, and I when I was doing this question I read answer choice D), and I immediately crossed it off even though when I kept reading it seemed correct, simply because it said "network television news reports" instead of PROGRAMS.

    Anyone else kind of frustrated with this question?

    Maybe JY explained it, not sure as I'm not completely done the NA old problem sets.

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    Beans.

    (via Trainer)

    Find assumption to make legit:

    Kermit is a frog. Therefore, he love green long time.

    Right: One is a frog only if one loves green. Translation: In order to be a frog one must love salsa verde.

    Wrong: One loves green only if one is a frog. Translation: All the salsa verde lovers, are frogs. (but not all the frogs love verde salsa)

    I'm struggling with translating the "wrong" statement. It just don't make no sense ricky bobby, and the worst part is it did two days ago. When I don't intentionally think about for like 2 minutes, it seems like the right and wrong statement are saying the same thing.

    I know that "if" statements read left to right and "only if" states read right to left (or you just move the if in front of the first clause), but it's hard for me to understand.

    This has probably been covered before...but advice is best only if it is fresh. (see what I did there. see it.)

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    I'm doing pretty well overall with RC, but I can't breach past the 2-5 missed average. On harder passages, I'm almost always getting 1-2 incorrect. At this point, I am able to comprehend just about every passage thrown my way, but the questions themselves occasionally leave me scrambling to find the answer.

    I realize there's really no strong consensus on RC tactics, but for those within the near-perfect range, what is your average time spent on simply reading the passage (this can include notating, note-taking, et cetera). I typically spend just under three minutes (2:40 is a relatively reliable number for reference) with moderate underlining/circling as well as minor note taking. The rest of my time is spent of the questions.

    Thanks in advance for any input!

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 24 2015

    Conditional/Or rules

    Rule: "J will arrive after M or before N, but not both"

    Correct translation: N and M arrive before J or they both arrive after J.

    (N- J) (J-N)

    or

    (M- J) (J-M)

    Question: Why can't the translation be (N - J - M)?

    Here J is neither after M nor before N.

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    I've regressed back into my plateau range of high 150's low 160's. It's disappointing as I thought I had made progress and now I have around 15 of my 21 total preptests in this range. In other words I have been in a consistent plateau my whole testing period with a few beneficial and not so beneficial outliers. Nonetheless, I have thought of a possible solution. Would it work if I took and retook preptests 62-72 until I was able able to score 175+ consistently on all of them. That way I would be able to master some inferences in LR, fine tune my RC, and increase inference making ability and speed in LG. I would keep 73 and 74 fresh to check to see if I made any real progress afterwards. I know it is highly likely I would be remembering a lot of answers, but hopefully I would also be remembering why the respective answers are correct and why the incorrect answers are wrong. I may increase the range (from 62-72 to 57-72) to encompass a few more possibilities for questions but you get the major gist. I really want to break out of this plateau and hit a higher range so that I may have wiggle room on the next test day. My new goal for myself is 165-180. Is this idea stupid or just dumb enough to actual work???

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    Yet not until teachers have the power to make decisions in their own classrooms can they enable their students to make their own decisions.

    How would you diagram this? I thought that "until" was negate sufficient, so I negated the "not" and ended up with: Teachers have power to make decisions----------->>>Enable students to make their own decisions.

    PrepTest 18 - Section 2 - question 23

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 24 2015

    What Order Has Been Successful?

    Hey,

    So I have recently started out the 7sage curriculum. My biggest weakness in the past was Logic Games so I have really been focusing on the LG curriculum and making good strides. I feel as if my PTs will be essentially wasted if I take them without fully going through all of the LG curriculum. My RC and LR are not bad, I just want to improve on my LG score for the time being. Therefore, I was planning on knocking out the rest of the LG curriculum before I start taking PTs for the October LSAT. I hope to be done by the end of June with the LG curriculum and then begin taking PTs along with drilling RC and LR through the 7sage curriculum through July, August, and September.

    Do you guys have thoughts on this approach/have others used a similar approach and been successful?

    Any input would be much appreciated.

    Thanks!

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    Ok, folks. Let's discuss options for BR groups heading towards October.

    (s)We have two matters to consider:(/s) Consideration done! Here's what we're doing:

  • PT45 Tonight at 8pm EST (PM me to join, per the usual)
  • PT46 on LSATurday, 8pm EST
  • Friday Special! PT66 8pm EST. We'll be doing PT66 through PT71 over the next several Fridays; please specify if you want to do this special session—some of us want the opportunity to take these later tests twice before the October test date.
  • Next week, Wednesday will be PT47, Friday PT67, and Saturday PT48, and so on, and so forth, until we ride into the Oct 3rd tests on chariots of fire.

    We do have a special request to switch the Wednesday session to a Tuesday session. For this week, obviously we will be meeting tonight, but I will raise the question on the call to see if everyone is ok with this change. I'll keep y'all posted with any changes.

    _______

    (Archive of original post follows)

    1) Which tests to BR

    My top priority is to get all the way through PT75 (June '15). I'm sure this is your priority, too. We have 34 sessions between now and September 30th if we meet twice weekly (with PT65 happening this Saturday), which should be the last group call for the Oct 3rd test.

    That means we have to make a choice between:

    1) Starting with PT36, making it to PT51 on August 1st, and then skipping ahead to PT59 on August 5th. That would mean we would skip tests that the group has already BR'ed (but I recognize that new people might not want to skip these tests).

    2) Starting with PT45 and going all the way through to PT75. This is better for those who favor exposure to the newer tests over exposure to older tests. On the whole, this one would be my recommendation, but I want to see if others have a preference.

    My question to you: Which course do we follow?

    2) When to do the groups

    I propose the following. Please either respond to this thread or PM me if you have strong objections.

    —Every Saturday at 8pm EST (note the time change). Our sessions have been averaging around 3 hours (shorter than previous sessions) and I do not think 11pm is too late for most of the East Coasters to wrap up the call.

    —Every Wednesday at 8pm EST (if we have a lot of West Coasters who work full time, we can perhaps find some wiggle room depending on how long your commutes are. I hesitate to set it any later as that would push the East Coasters near midnight by the time we finish)

    My question to you: Do these days work for you?

    To all who have participated or reached out to me about participating: Please make your lovely voices heard!

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 24 2015

    Progress experiences.

    Hey everyone! I have not yet bought a package from 7sage, but probably will go with the premium option. I'm a Canadian looking toward getting a score of around 160-163 to be competitive at Canadian law schools.

    I'm entering 4th year university and was on the edge of whether I should apply for the 2016 cycle or wait till I graduate to study for the LSAT and apply for the 2017 cycle.

    If I start prepping now I have around 3 months ( I know you can't reach your full potential in this short time). I would just like to hear some of your progress stories and whether 3 months of serious studying is enough to break the 160 barrier.

    Thank you, and I look forward to communicating with you guys in the future.

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 24 2015

    LR: strengthen and weaken

    Ok so am I the only pretty little law geek that finds these questions tough? Lol I'm not bad at LR overall but these questions trip me up quite often. Any advice? I know eventually if I keep doing them I will get better but I am interested to know if anyone uses a different strategy or notices a characteristic about these that distinguishes them from other flaw questions and makes them a little easier to solve. I simply identify the argument, find a flaw and attempt to find the answer that strengthens or weakens that bond between the support and conclusion (not always easy to discern even when I understand the argument).

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 23 2015

    Extra time on LSAT

    I'm prepping for the exam with a friend who has a pretty serious chronic illness. He has applied to get 25% extra time on the LSAT. Although I think that, given his illness, he deserves the added time, I'm confused whether that extra time can be of significant help. If he's approved, he'll get 8 extra minutes per section.

    I haven't taken the exam yet but I understand that time constraint is one of the biggest challenge that the exam entails. However, I also believe that if you're not familiar with the exam by test day, those 8 extra minutes will never be enough. Him and I had a mini argument on this topic.

    What're your thoughts on this? Especially the folks who have taken this dreadful exam previously.

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 23 2015

    Percentage, # questions in LR

    LR questions of this type give me such problems. Not insofar as getting the question correct, but with timing. Not really a big math guy, so I guess it makes sense why I'm struggling with them.

    With level 1 & 2 questions I never really have a problem, but when the questions get more difficult my brain freezes and I don't really know what to focus on. I start playing around with the percentages and numbers and am usually able to arrive at the correct answer through brute force/process of elimination. Problem is that they typically take me around 2:00-2:45.

    I make flashcards for LR that gave me a lot of trouble and I'd say around 60% of them are questions that involve numbers and percentages. Getting these questions right QUICKLY would help me out immensely. I realize that this is something I must work on and so I'm looking for any advice on how I can get better with these questions. If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it. TIA

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    Last comment monday, jun 22 2015

    7Sage Course Levels

    I just finished going through the entirety of the core curriculum (ah if only that was all it takes). I have the basic course, and I'm looking for input on the whether upgrading is worth it given that all the tools, so to speak, are provided with the basic version. The price isn't an issue, nor is my cognizance of the potential ROI; just curious what you all think.

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