Really felt like I blew it on games. I expected this to be my worst section, but I don't think anything could have prepared me for how tough that was gonna be. I'm leaning toward canceling my score. I was testing in the mid 170's, and I'd be very surprised if I broke 170 with this test.

Hello!

I've been reading around to see if there's a reliable way to see which section of the exam is the experimental. Apparently in today's times it is incredibly unreliable to tell which section it is. It could be any of the 5 sections, because they no longer default to keeping it in the first 3 sections. I feel like my test score is going to be made or broke (overall I think I still did better than last time) by which LG section was the experimental (If I am disclosing too much info then I'll quickly delete/edit this post.) One of the sections felt no different than any other LG section I had done, then the next one felt extremely foreign. I was able to figure out the games, but my confidence in some of the answer choices wasn't very high. Also, the formatting is extremely shitty when it comes to reading the answers in some LGs. I mean, we are already pressed for time, and having to take even a couple of extra seconds to decipher what is being read can throw people off. I kind of get it in the sense that it can weed people out (i.e. not let any average Joe who didn't study much easily read it) but still.

Yay it's over! For now...

Do you feel that it can be helpful to sometimes view strengthen questions as weakening the opposite of the conclusion, and vice-versa? And when I say opposite, I mean the logical opposite.

Everything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong.

On RC I just could NOT get in the zone. It's easy to practice getting in the zone where you understand what you read easily and spit it back out, and it's easy to get good RCs on your own time. On test day, COMPLETELY different ballgame. It was nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get in that zone. For me anyway.

The only thing preventing me from cancelling right now is that my backup school only requires like a 163. I'm also holding out on the remote shot that my "guess" answers were right.

At any rate, the answer to the question I've been asking for the last 3 months: Will I have to re-take the LSAT in October? Is a resounding: You better.

So you'll be seeing more of me, 7sage :-)

I have been studying for the LSAT with 7sage since March.

Today, I finished the core curriculum. Now, with less than 4 months left, should I bother going through all the questions from PTs 1-36 (got them as part of Cambridge's LSAT bundle) for drilling, before taking full PTs? Do I have enough time?

Please share your thoughts!

welllllllllll people June is over and time to partay.... woot woot

I just got home after taking the lsat. After 4 months of preparation, the test is finally over. Thank God:) But i can't can't really tell if I did well. For some reason I am feeling very insecure. Is anyone having the same feeling?

Hey Sagers,

I am taking my test in CA and my ticket says report no later than 12:30pm. I am under the impression that that is east coast time? please help clarify :-D

Hey fellow 7sagers,

This is my first post and it may be long (and more of a cathartic blog-like post), but I wanted to throw this out there for anyone who is also having similar feelings. I am signed up for the June LSAT (aka tomorrow) and am NOT taking it.

You may be thinking, "Oh this is just stress/anxiety." I'm sure that has some part to play, but I'd like to believe my reasoning is more logical than that.

I began the 7sage prep course back in January. When I say began, I mean more like I signed up. I thought, "I have a little less than 6 months. That should be enough time." I started off well, keeping on my schedule, but then LSAT prep took a back seat to all my other activities. As a full time student and part time worker who also attempted to have a social life, it didn't seem like there were enough hours in the day to also make time for LSAT prep. Then May hit. I had not yet finished the prep course nor had I taken any PTs. I thought, "I'm a smart person, I can just dedicate this month to the LSAT and I will be golden." I did spend tremendous amounts of time studying (like 8 hours a day, 6 days a week), but little did I know that wasn't good enough. It's true, you cannot cram for the LSAT. As it got closer and closer to the test date, I felt less and less sure about my ability. All of these posts that JY or any of the other 7sagers posted about the June LSAT would say things like, "You've done your prep tests, you know what you're likely to score. Don't worry so much." The thing is, I've only taken 2 PTs. My first one I got a 154 (158 with BR) and my second test I got a 158 (165 with BR). What a range! Who knows what I'll score on the actual test. My main issue is timing. The LG section kills me. Without blind review I was getting -11, but with BR I was getting -2. From this I learned a few things. My foundations were there, but I need to have practiced more to get the timing down. To put it simply, I am not ready. I've known this for some time and was hoping that by some miracle come today I would feel ready; that maybe in my last week of studying something would finally click. It hasn't. I know that if I were to take the LSAT tomorrow, I would not be performing at my best.

With this feeling, I looked to my parents for validation of my decision not to take the LSAT. My mom said, "What harm can it do? If you don't do well, just take it again. Law schools will see an improvement. You've spent so much time on this. You also can't get a refund. Why don't you just take it and see how it goes?" She makes a good argument and almost swayed me. But the thing of the matter is I don't want to take a test that I don't feel confident about, that I am not ready for. This is not anxiety getting the better of me. This is not a fear of that I won't do well (well maybe just a little) This is me taking an honest look in the mirror and knowing I can do better. I know where my strengths and weaknesses lie. I know what it takes to truly study for the LSAT. Maybe I'll never feel fully ready for the LSAT, but I do know that with more preparation I can go into the October's LSAT knowing I'm going to do the best I can do.

Of course you are. You're about to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one is called the October LSAT.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your last three recent properly administered LSAT PrepTests (e.g., 72, 73, 74) and average your scores. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

There is nothing separating you from that score except the mere passing of a few day's time.

You are as prepared as you can be. You have already seen everything those crafty LSAT writers will throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond with craftiness of your own.

Monday will be just another PT day and the June 2015 LSAT will be just another PT. PrepTest 75, in fact, when the LSAC releases it. And how different could that be from PT 74 and PT 73 and PT 72 and on and on and on.

You're ready.

That's not to say, of course, that you won't encounter a few insanely difficult curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You will encounter them (again) on Monday. I am telling you this now, so you will be prepared. Skip them. Keep moving. Maintain your rhythm.

You got this.

I've been checking my admissions ticket regularly and even today, it still only gives me the building name and says "Room #'s Posted on Test Day" So I have to wait until the day of the test to even know what room I'm going to be in? Talk about stressful. Are all the test centers like this?

PREPARE FOR GLORY!!!!

First of all, good luck to all of those writing tomorrow!! You WILL kill it!!!

I started taking prep tests again after my dismal December 14 LSAT score. I studied from December to May lightly, about 2-3 hours a day, and, I have to say...... today..... I got a 168!!!!!!!!! Which is my highest score to date :D

Last weekend my score was a 164 with a crappy BR score of a 167. I haven't BR today, but I just wanted to express my happiness. Consistency really really really pays off. My score in December was a 155!

:D

Imagine the LSAT would materialize into a physical entity that you could deck clean in the nose. It would run toward you screaming various arguments and asking you "what must be true," what would strengthen the argument," et cetera. You're sporting a pair of boxing gloves that say Sufficient and Necessary, bedecked in shorts displaying the 7sage logo in a shade of royal blue. Your appearance? Regal. Your demeanor? Hungry. As soon as the bell rings, you come out swinging. Down goes LSAT. Knockout in the 4th. J.Y. is your bookie, he's collecting bets. Ok, I'm done.

I'm taking the LSAT outside the US so I have a couple more weeks to prepare but I just had a total meltdown on PT 71 yesterday. Worst score I have gotten thus far and when I reviewed the exam I saw many silly mistakes (misbubbling, ignoring the EXCEPT in the stem, entirely misreading the stem). I was taking the exam in a classroom where there was a lot of noise and music playing (?)...I want to chalk it up to these distractions but since I am so close to test day I want to nail down any issues I have now and now overlook them. Is there something bigger going on or do you guys occasionally have "off" days? How do you recover? Is there any value in retaking this exam this close to the test day? Thanks guys!

What is everybody doing to warm-up on Monday?

So I checked out my test center, and the desks are TINY. Like maybe the size of a piece of paper. How should I deal with this?

There are some larger desks in the front but they are handicap accessible but I wouldn't really feel right sitting in one of those. I bet people are going to try to sit there though. Maybe I could ask a proctor if they are spoken for by people who need them? There are 2 desks that each fit 2 people.

Hi - so I postponed my test for October but I'm just curious if anyone has taken an exam in these locations:

CUNY School of Law or Pace University? Which one is better?

I've been missing many "Parallel" (both flaw and not) because of, say, a credited response containing "most" while the passage does not. Am I to generally ignore quantifiers with these question types?

Talk to me people, how are you all feeling for this Monday?

A fascinating essay by Lewis Carroll about learning that I feel mirrors our experience in training for the LSAT. : http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/06/13/how-to-learn-lewis-carroll/

Ok so I couldnt help but stick it out with Mike's method for LG since a few of you said it was actually beneficial to you in some ways and it's finally coming together! The use of his shapes are not bad. Although unpleasing to the eye, lol in a matter of a day I got used to it and I am already doing a LOT better on diagramming drills.I suppose it was just a matter of being too overwhelmed by the appearance of the diagrams combined with extreme fatigue that caused me to go crazy last night. I ended up re-reading the chapters that confused me last night (proof that studying when you are mentally and physically exhausted is an absolute waste) and I understood it much better today. I have a good patient load at work tonight and I don't have the emergency room so I will be able to get in at least 5 hours of studying! Thanks to those of you who continue to give me advice and inspire me to do my best. If anyone else is using The Trainer and is a little baffled by the LG section I will be more than happy to help clarify.

Not sure what I'm looking for here...Probably pity points if I'm being honest with myself. Just a heads-up, this is a long one. I know writing can sometimes help vent frustrations, and since I can't repeatedly punch the drywall to combat my stress and fleeting moments of panic, I'll give this a shot. Today I took what I planned on being my last pretest - hopefully ever (PT-73) and notwithstanding the fact that I haven't graded it yet, I know it was a total bust. I completely bombed a Logic Games section and --for me in particular-- this hits especially close to home. Logic games have always been a bit problematic for me. On the december 2014 administration, I sat for the exam and did higher on the logical reasoning sections than I've ever done otherwise, but completely botched a logic game (getting about 7 wrong). My experimental was logic games as well, and happened to be the first section so it was literally back-to-back games and I essentially came out being ambushed by 8 games. Consequently, I received a 164 which is pretty solid but I decided to commit my time to more study, and give it all I've got for June.

"170 or bust," served as the ideological truism to which I --among others-- subscribed. From early Feb until now I've been studying consistently, logging 380 exact hours hitherto (can corroborate with Excel spreadsheet). This doesn't include the hours from Oct-Dec. To combat my weakness in logic games I purchased the cambridge bundle which includes all the logic games sections from PT1-70. I've been doing several logic games sections a day 2-4 which ranges from 8-16 games a day. Scoring perfect very often. For some reason my reading comp has plummeted lately, I feel like I can't register and process what I'm reading at times. Not sure if this has anything to do with the stress or not. I've also taken 24 PTs from Feb-Now. All have been 5 section save for one (the free preptest offered on the LSAC site). I feel like I've paid my dues here. Going back to today's pt, it was a total farce. I felt brain dead for my 2 sections of reading comp. Section 4 was games, which made me so irate, I broke 3 pencils and contemplated ripping up my test and just stopping there. In spite of my lapse of self-control and anger, I decided to continue but couldn't focus much on my last section (LR). Not sure how I did but for the last few tests I've taken Logical Reasoning I've been in a sort of auto-pilot mode. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, I'm at that point where I'm reading questions, even ones I should diagram and just feeling out the answer. Sometimes I can't even successfully diagram the question but my mind scans the choices until it finds what feels right and I move forward. I know this strategy sounds like an incarnation of LR Russian Roulette but oddly enough I've been getting them mostly right and relatively stay in the same range of LR questions missed.

I don't know if this autopilot mode is the result of some intuited conditioning or just my total apathy and disillusionment with the test. I've become sloppier, fancying myself a lone gunslinger, secretly wishing the gun I've put to my temple is loaded -- or in my analogue, the question is wrong. I know many would advise to reschedule but that's not an option. Should I take a day or two off? It might help but I'm scared of losing precious minutes that could be utilized for studying. I feel as if I'm in some LSAT limbo swimming amongst concepts, games and ideas. I literally can write questions for the LSAT at this point. What is most strongly supported by the statements above? B) I'm tired of the LSAT. What would most undermine my argument above? C) User Dgelf321 is known to be a drama-queen who over-exaggerates academic related endeavors. This argument rests on the assumption that? E) The stress related symptoms Dgelf321 has reported are not the result of other non-lsat related obstacles, or medical issues. The argument above is most vulnerable to which of the following criticisms? A) The author implies causation between stress and the LSAT, when only correlation has been shown. What would most explain the dip in scores despite the amount of studying? C) Studying harder isn't necessarily studying smarter. What is the main point of the argument? D) I feel like I'm losing it. The sentence " From early Feb until now I've been studying consistently, logging 380 exact hours hitherto (can corroborate with Excel spreadsheet)," figures into the argument in which of the following ways? It is a premise to support the sub conclusion "I've paid my dues" and acts to establish sympathy for the writer. Which of the following can be concluded? E) Overstudying is a real thing. Which of the following assumptions would allow the author's argument to be properly drawn? You get the picture.

For people who have taken the LSAT alrwady, what is typical as far as the difference between your average practice scores and the actual score from the real test? I'm averaging around 173-174 right now, and I'm curious to know if that is what I should expect on test day

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