Pretty much what the title says. I've consistently gotten 168s on the past 5/6 PTs and it's so frustrating when my BR score is in the 175+'s. Any advice on how to get over that hump for the next 2 weeks? I've been drilling my weaknesses using the cambridge packets which have been helpful but any other suggestions would be grand. In particular, I'm missing question types that I never used to miss (like resolve, parallel structure, etc.).

Thanks guys and happy studying!

Hey 7Sagers, got a question I thought you could help me answer! Here it is:

Would you please give me some suggestions on how to improve my score on timed PTs. When I take timed PTs, my score ranges 140-145. However, when I do blind review or take double time (such as 70 min instead of 35 min), my score goes up to 155-160. I have already taken about 15 PTs.

Since English is my 2nd language, I don't rush to under the stimulus better. If I rush a little bit, I miss a question for a little mistake, which I can avoid if I don't rush on it.

I post quite a bit, but I really do appreciate the advice.

I am deciding if I should write a prep test this evening.

I work full time, so right now I'm taking an old, timed, RC section every morning before work. On lunch I do one old, time, LG section and I review the 2 questions given as an intro. Yesterday I did both grouping questions.

My LG is usually 0 - -3 wrong, and I usually only get any wrong because I'm rushing... but I usually have like 10 minutes left at the end, so I know I can improve by taking my time.

My RC is anywhere from -3 - -10, but I find I consistently sit at a 7 or an 8. I know I can improve, which is why I drill them daily.

I know LR is the section that needs the most work.

Monday and Tuesday I went through old question types and drilled them by section (approx. 20) per SA, NA, PSA, Flaw, MC, MSS, MBT, MBF, ect.

I was planning on writing a prep test today after work, take a break, review 1-2 sections of it (most likely RC and LG since they take less time for me to review), review the rest Thursday, do some more review, and Friday (I have the day off), spend the day drilling concepts again.

I find that Flaw questions, and identifying the flaw, are the fundamentals of these arguments, so I bought the Cambridge package of 200+ flaw questions and planned on drilling them on Friday.

My question is.

Should I wait. Should I do some more drilling of the flaw questions tonight, Thursday do some more review, and then spend Friday writing it?

I know now that writing prep test after prep test isn't THE best study method, but I have quite a few left before the LSAT, and I view taking them as a good way to increase speed.

I don't know. :( I guess I just came down with a cold yesterday, so I don't know if waiting is best. But weekends are usually the old/best time for me to write practice exams, and I was already advised not to write one F/S/ and S.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-3-question-18/

I had a lot of trouble with this question picking between A/C (reasons outlined below) and am hoping someone could point out the error in my logic.

The stimulus states activities that pose a risk are acceptable if and only if they satisfy any of two conditions

1) the net benefit outweigh the risk

2) the person bearing the risk does so voluntarily

Starting with the answer I chose first

(C) A motorcyclist rides without a helmet and the RISK is acceptable because he's doing so voluntarily. At first glance this seemed to definitely fit as an application of the principle stated in the stimulus. The motorcyclist is choosing to ride without a helmet. However, the answer states the risk is acceptable while the principle is talking about whether the activity that poses this risk is acceptable. One might argue that an acceptable activity necessarily implies the risk is acceptable. However, here all we're told is the necessary condition is satisfied and we can't conclude anything about the sufficient condition.

Therefore, I changed my answer to (A) though I had a lot of reservations:

(A) a salesperson voluntarily and therefore this activity is acceptable. This didn't seem to fit the stimulus too well. How do we know the risk the salesperson, by not replacing his old car with a new one with new safety features, is imposing a risk on his life? I felt (C) was blatantly wrong (stating that the risk is acceptable rather than the activity) while (A) seemed a little less wrong since it didn't seem too large a leap of faith to assume his old car may pose a risk on his life. After all, isn't driving always posing a risk on your life?

Between these two, I ended up picking (A) which happened to be the wrong answer of the two. Could anyone point out what I'm missing here?

Thanks in advance,

Peter

Where do I start? I began my LSAT studies in April of this year, with a diagnostic of 146. I felt discouraged but I felt hopeful. However...after taking TWO LSATs, the highest score I received was a 149. I haven't been working full time for almost a year and a half trying to get into graduate school..not necessarily my choice but lots of pressure from my parents to get in and not worry about work. I had a decent work history before the big gap in employment, but now I feel like...just low. I am not dumb by any means, and I don't think that the LSAT is an indicator of intelligence, but I have always struggled on exams and in school in general, my SAT score was on the lower end and my GPA from UG is sub 3.0..mostly b's and c's. Right now I am completing applications that I am not confident about and I don't feel as though they reflect my true potential, but I feel option less-given you can only take the LSAT 3 times in 2 years and family pressure to get into school asap(I am also an older student-over 25). On the flip side, I do well when on the job front. I am desperate for advice and I'm sure from the outside my problem seems very clear cut- but I struggle to get past the fog.

PS I FULLY committed when prepping for the the LSAT- I took a in-person prep course and I studied for a minimum of 6 hours a day-most days I averaged 8-12 hours. I PUSHED. During this time, I tried to be discipline-no drinking, parties, lots of meditation/positive talks and very light volunteer service. The highest PT I got was 156- 2 days before the exam on the most recent test. Like I mentioned earlier, I struggle with confidence scholastically so I tried to prepare myself in so many aspects for the exam. On the night before the exam I made sure to go to bed at 9pm- and woke up almost 2 hours before the exam- ate a light breakfast..stayed overnight in a hotel for the test so walked to the test location. I completely skipped 2 questions on the exam...so I'm sure I was anxious. I feel like I did everything right--except the fact that this exam may just take time that I don't feel like I have. I took the most recent exams in case anyone is wondering. I don't want to give up on law school, as it was my dream in undergrad, and most of the jobs I've had since UG in would benefit from a JD. Please please help..any advice would be great.

Does LSAT REALLY measure your success in lawschool?

Can someone explain to me the implication of this statement? I know it sets up a two way street between the two terms but why is that the case???

Hello, everyone!

I have been spending a lot of my time really grinding and mastering the LG section. I felt this section needed the most improvement, but I need some help with LR questions. Some sections I may get up to 12-13 wrong, while in other sections 3-5 wrong. I know the December LSAT is around the corner, and I really want to iron out some kinks. How did you get better at the LR sections? What was your approach? How much did you improve?

I also plan on implementing your methods with J.Y.s double blind studying. Cheers!

So I am taking the December test, I have studied all the material. I am not burned out but I am mentally tired. I want to take a break but I am little fearful that taking a couple of days off will take away from studying. Any thoughts?

Hey guys, so when I first took my first ever LSAT Diagnostic 4 months ago I got an embarrassing 127. However I'm now scoring around a 144-145ish. I've improved in both Logical Reasoning and Logic games obviously not to the point where I'm great at it but to the extent that I get about 15 questions give or take correct on each section. With all of this being said, My reading Comp section is by far the worst. For instance on some exams I get -21 and on others I get -18. My goal is not to get a 160 plus but rather to score atleast in the low 150's. Is there anybody that can give me some advice on how to tackle Reading Comp? I just flat out suck at LSAT Reading comp. I plan on taking the the Dec LSAT.

Why does this question trip me up?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-14/

I go so caught up in the relatively or seemingly complex diagramming that I overlooked the question stem I read initially (violates) and screwed it up.

I find myself doing that once in a while - I read the Q Stem first, then go to the stimulus, get caught up in that, then screw it up because I lose sight of the the Question Stem....

Is it just a matter of quickly re-reading the stem - since I have to focus on applying info from the Stimulus it anyway?

BTW - what's the question type for this Question "violates the rule..."

Thanks in advance!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-11/

This is a challenging question - largely because it hinges on 1 word - permanent.

It's a weaken question, but the word permanent is crucial to it.

If I didn't see that word, I dunno what would happen...

I feel like this may be a pattern for challenging LR - where it comes down to a subtle distinction based on one word....

Any thoughts on how to be vigilant about it?

Perhaps... if you're having trouble with a question, double check for hinge words?

I've reviewed JY's lessons for Sufficient, Pseudo Sufficient, and Necessary Assumptions twice, but I'm still struggling a lot with these question types. I frequently get them wrong, particularly Sufficient Assumption, and it's really frustrating. Any advice on how to overcome this stumbling block? I feel like as soon as I improve on these question types, my overall LR score will improve immensely, so any help/suggestions would be immensely appreciated.

Hello guys,

I am currently 3 weeks away from the LSAT and started self-studying in September. I decided to self-study due to me not having to the financial means to afford a tutor or enroll into a course. I am currently using the PowerScore Bible games for studying. My biggest downfall is second guessing myself and not fully grasping the concept of logical reasoning as it pertains to quickly identifying how to select as answer choice that caters to the particular question type. Do you guys know of any strategies I can use to improve my Logical Reasoning Section of the LSAT. When I took a diagnostic for the first time, I score an 135. When I took one 4 weeks later, I scored an 151. However, that declined once I took one yesterday in which I scored an 131. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Please guys could you provide me with some feedback and strategies. Thanks in advance!

Hi Everyone. I started studying LSAT by using 7sage since June in the summer. I just started doing Prep Test last Monday. However, my first prep test is only 149 and my second prep test is only 147. I knew that I just started prep test, but 149 and 147? That almost broke my heart. I am usually good at logical games but I only got 15 out of 23 right in these two prep tests. I don't know why. Am I still hopeful to get over 166? Thank you guys. I will appreciate any advice.

I just ordered the LSATMax Analog Watch. Can we use this watch during the actual LSAT test or is it just for when practicing at home?

Regarding valid & Invalid arguments is there a list that outlines "Not flawed" arguments? For example, I know that conditional statement i.e.

A-->B

A

-----

B

if structured properly makes this a valid argument,

but are there other ways that the test-makers are testing for such as

causality...

The reason I ask is that from what I can tell so far, is that causality is a method that the test-makers use in the arguments, and yet, they are also flawed causality arguments and we are to find an answer choice that shows their error in the causal relationship.

So I'm using the term valid argument in this post loosely to better clarify my question.

Are there other methods the test-makers use to construct arguments or are there all going to be just conditional or causal?

Thanks

I feel like I know what everyone is going to say but please help me. I was scoring in the low 170s. I had worked my way up there, finally breaking the 160s. My last two tests have shows serious drops. This last test I took saw me at a 167. Now I recognize that this is a good score, I know that, but it is not my target. I am shooting for 170+. This was the worst reading comp section I have ever had. Normally I do extremely well there. I am not sure what I have done differently or what I can do differently. Should I take the week off? Should I double down on studying? Has anyone had the same thing happen to them and can recommend a course of action because I seem to have fallen back into the high 160 range and I desperately want to pull up from that.

The table game in PT 41 (Game 4) is pretty brutal. Anyone come across other super tough games? Want to be ready for this harder LG trend.

Hi Guys,

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered! I can't find the answer. I know for logical reasoning questions that you should read all answers to make sure you got the right one, but let's say you have your logic game board and you can see the answer is B, should you just circle it and move on? It would really cut my time down. On the other hand, I know sometimes it could be a confidence error. Some advice would be great.

Thank you!

It seems I consistently make 1-3 LR confidence errors per test. If any of you have had this issue, how have you fixed it? Thanks for the help :)

To prepare for study abroad, exactly five students- M, N, P, R, and T- will learn at least one of four languages: French, Hindi, Italian, and Spanish. No student learns any other language. The following conditions apply:

No student learns all four languages.

At least two of the students learn French.

Any language that is learned by R is not learned by N.

If French is learned by any student, then that student learns Italian.

If Hindi is learned by any student, then that student learns Spanish.

P learns French.

5.) Which one of the following is a pair of languages that CANNOT both be learned by student R?

a. French and Italian

b. French and Spanish

c. Hindi and Italian

d. Italian and Spanish

e. Hindi and Spanish

Book says D. I say B and C are also possible. The only way those answers don't work is if R no longer has to learn the accompanying language with N still does. It DOES say pair which may mean the rules for him can be broken. If true, this is a thinly veiled modifier that I would probably have gotten wrong, possibly i just have to familiarize myself with this test more.

With the December LSAT approaching, I have yet to reach the 170 mark. I sit between a 161-165. I know that's not ideal, but I'm still working to improve.

My LG is between 0 and -3.

My reading comp and LR suffer the most.

I'm just wondering if people have tips on how to best study for these from here on out.

For Reading Comp, I'm going to go through a full 35 minute 4 passage a day to improve upon technique/skill.

For LR.... I'm unsure. I consistently get from 4-7 wrong on each LR section. When I go through BR, I can get that number down, but I'm still consistently at least 3 wrong.

Should I focus on reviewing the question types (to which there is no specific pattern of *most types wrong*), or should I focus more on doing old, timed, sections? So I can work on under pressure circumstances. I think that's where I lack most. My mistakes are not reading correctly, rushing, ect.

I think I haven't grasped the whole "you should try and answer them right instead of answering them all" concept. Does anyone have a strategy for this? I find I'm weakest at NA, PF, and PR... should I just circle the Q when I see them, not attempt, and come back if I have time, or try to attempt?

Thanks!!

Hi All

Just made a mistake on a PT that cost me a personal best score - because I switched the choices when bubbling.

I'm already pretty vigilant and I do bubble in groups.

Any tips to avoid bubbling errors?

I'm getting worried about my Logical Reasoning performance since I've discovered a negative trend in my preptests. I tend to do well in the beginning of a section and then do much worse later on in a section. For example, in preptest 63 section 3, I got one wrong in the first 16 questions and then from questions 17-26 I got 6 wrong. A similar phenomenon happened in the other LR section on that test and has happened on other tests as well. I'm wondering if the questions tend to get more difficult as the sections continue or if something else is happening. I also do have diagnosed attention problems and am worried that my attention is slipping as I get further along in the section. Has anyone else experienced this? And does anyone have any advice?

What question types and exams should I ignore?