i did it already but now i heard about the new core curriculum for the august test and beyond. i want to take the test after august so i will be taking the test without logic games

Hi everyone!!

I would love to create a welcoming group for LSAT studying. I am in greater LA area near West Hollywood/Burbank. Please let me know if anyone would like to join!! I can create a discord/Group Me. Currently studying for August but that may change due to my scores lol.

Shoot me message if interested!

Hi everyone! As I am anxiously awaiting my November score, I have been working hard on my personal statement and am seeking a few fellow 7Sagers to swap with! I am applying this cycle and want my apps in by the end of 2019 so please reach out if you are interested. I am applying to all of the schools within the Chicagoland area also.

Hi everyone, I'm currently struggling with RC (mainly timing issues). I'm working with standard time and it's just not enough for me. When I'm practicing with a little extra time or just untimed, I tend to write out my low-res, view points and all that stuff and I ZOOM through the questions missing no more than 1 or 2 at the most on the passages. When timing constraints are on, my note taking is shit and I can't comprehend the text as much as I should be and I rush. Do I just need to slowly get rid of the physical note taking?

Hey all,

I created a group (community) in WhatsApp for those of us doing the new format and want some accountability.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/KZTJNqTs3rWJGDsXxjp5ET

Let's do it!

Hey everyone,

I am planning on taking the January 2024 LSAT. I have been studying for quite a while now, and am scoring in the range of 152-155. I recently just decided to purchase 7sage due to the overall positive results it has produced for students. I have been PT'ing using 7sage as well scoring within that range, however, I have been scoring between 166-168 on my blind reviews. Here are my averages for each section:

LG: -6/-7 (-1/0 BR)

LR: -9 (-5/-6 BR)

RC: -10 (-5/-6 BR)

One of my overarching issues is pacing. I can't seem to quite get to where I want to be given the time constraint. This usually forces me to skip a LG section, and forces me to miss a fair amount of questions on both RC and LR. Sometimes, depending of difficulty, I may skip a LG section while being about 50% on each answer for another.

From all of this, I would just like to know what I should do going forward with studying. Should I go through 7sage's modules and work each section out? I work about 30 hours per week, and since my graduate classes are completed for the semester, that is really my only obligation as of now. My goal score is to get around a 160. Thank you so much!

How vital is it to have more than 2 letters of rec if a school takes up to 4? I've heard that if the school takes 4, you should submit 3. I have another recommender in mind but he would not be able to complete my letter until beginning of next year, so would it be better to submit my application with 2 letters earlier, or wait for 3?

I am aware of sites such as Rate My Professor and Above the Law, but does anyone have any other websites to look at? I assume Reddit is a popular option as well.

Hello 7sage hive mind!!

I have a few questions re: Character and Fitness section.

Every school asks if you have ever been disciplined for academic or non-academic reasons. Do university parking citations count as being disciplined by the school? Does anyone care? This was 7+ years ago.

Along a similar vein... If schools want to know about speeding tickets, should I disclose written warnings? Also, should I disclose when I was pulled over but not issued anything?

I'm clearly down the rabbit hole here lol.

Thanks in advance for your advice

Curious what people think about this question. The second rationale is essentially that a punishment should fit the severity of the crime. Applied to the answer choices, we are to understand that we are not looking for an exact match, but rather a consistent parallel form of reasoning.

So, rationale: punishment = severity of crime.

A: Correctness = fairness

B: Correctness = what society deems correct

C: Correctness = consequences + inherent fairness

D: Correctness = consequences + intuitive rightness

E: Correctness = consequences

Curious on why A is the best answer. Fairness? Is this because attaching fairness to the correctness of an action is consistent with determining the severity of a punishment on the severity of the crime? There's no clear linkage.

I am just happy that I have finished the test today and got sort of valuable experience for sure. A bit lost for some time out of panick. Remote testing at home. No technical issue encountered, proctor was very friendly. Had a ten-minute intermission for the restroom, came back and went through security check.

Honestly, LG was not that hard, and it was the only reason I rushed to take the test this time because I have practiced a lot over a long period.

My goal is 170+, which I know, is only realistic with tons of efforts, at least, for myself.

I will continue to study for the next one in Aug.

I've noticed that a huge issue I'm having right now is drawing way too many boards on logic games. Whenever a question introduces new conditions, I can't just picture it in my head- I need to be able to visualize it. I've always been the same way with numbers, I've always been terrible at mental math. What should I be doing to help this? Will I make better inferences in time? I take the LSAT in like a month and would love to address this soon.

I am trying to figure out how I can better understand negating conditionals. For that I tried to start with truth tables for conditionals. But I found that I am unsure if I understand the truth tables for conditionals.

“Princeville is a city in Quebec. If you live in Princeville (P), then you live in Quebec. (Q).”

In what situation is the conditional relationship P→Q true and in what cases is it false?

In other words when is P sufficient for Q and Q is necessary for P. There are four possible outcomes:

1)  you live in Princeville (P=T),  you live in Quebec (Q=T). (P→Q applies & is true)

2) you live in Princeville(P=T), you do NOT live in Quebec(Q=F). (P→Q is false)

3) you do NOT live in Princeville (P=F), you live in Quebec (Q=T) (P→Q is F?!? why?)

4) If you do NOT live in Princeville (P=F), you do NOT live in Quebec (Q=F). (P→Q is F?!? why?)

The last two rows do not seem to be very clear for me if we look at set/subsets.

If I replace the conditional statement with subset symbol P→Q =P⸦Q the truth table does not seem to be very clear.

However, the following (from https://courses.lumenlearning.com/frontrange-mathforliberalartscorequisite1/chapter/1-8-truth-tables-conditionals-and-biconditionals/) makes more sense to me.

p → q where p is I live in an apartment and q is then I pay rent. 

What are the outcomes?

1. I do live in an apartment and I pay rent, then the situation is true (no eviction!)

2. I live in an apartment and I don’t pay rent, then the situation is false (eviction, broken promise)

3. I don’t live in an apartment but I do pay rent, then the situation is true (though why would you do it?)

4. I don’t live in an apartment and I don’t pay rent, then the situation is true (no promise broken)

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The truth table makes sense if we define and look at conditionals so:

"If P then Q" simply eliminates the possibility that both P is true and Q is false.

P⟹Q  ≡  /(P and /Q)  ≡  /P or Q

For the inverse:

It would be nice if there was a clear example of how to do the same for an inverse please. I can do it if /P→/Q = / [/(P and /Q)]  = P and /Q. However is there an easy to understand example for this?

I want to re-do all of the Logical Reasoning Problem sets from the curriculum. I believe that much like Logic Games, Re-doing these problem sets can benefit me from a skills standpoint in identifying either why the correct answer is correct and/or why the 4 other answer choices are incorrect for each question type. As I do this, I will take notes of any and all trends I discover that will help me attack each question type quickly and accurately. I am wondering if anyone is also doing this and if so how do you schedule this review in your study schedule? As of now I am considering adapting Pacifico's Logic Games Attack strategy. Link provided below.

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy/p1

Were y'all able to use the control F or command F function on the ProProctor LSAT platform?

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I am so stress with this upcoming test. First, because it will be the last with LG, so I am expecting the worst, to have the most difficult games ever. Second, I am getting loose in LR cause my focus is LG that I am getting incorrect responses, and when I do the blind review i get them correct, and then I think why I cannot think when I am under time pressure. Can someone give me an advise ??? I know my Core curriculum fundamentals are there.

Hi everyone.

I have been using analytics to try and determine where my weak points are with regards to question types but I have noticed that tricky stimuli seem to trip me up more than the actual question type. Analytics claim that strengthen and weaken questions are ones I need the most improvement on but I have been nailing them in recent PTs and I feel like the questions I do get wrong on both timed and BR differ greatly from one PT to the next. There doesn't seem to be a consistent trend. Has anyone else come across this issue?

Most of the time when I watch JY's explanations, I will have that "ah I get it moment" which usually comes about because I didn't consider something in the argument, but of course there are those very few questions I need to really dive deep to figure out why my AC was incorrect or how a seemingly wrong AC is actually the correct choice.

Taking the June 2024 LSAT and I've put up some pretty good scores on each section. I've hit -1 on LG, -2 on RC, and -5 on LR. The only problem is that I've never come remotely close to doing all of that on the same test (for example, when I got a -5 on LR, I got my worst ever score on RC; the very next practice test THE NEXT DAY, I got a -2 on RC and put up my worst ever LR score). I'm done with practice tests before test day, but does anyone have any tips on what I can do to brush up and prevent splitting so dramatically?

Hello all! Who else is taking the JAN2024LSAT? How we feelin?

Can someone explain PTC, S2 Q08? I am trying to understand why A is the right answer and why the other answers are wrong.

Thank you for your help.

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I am looking for someone to hold be accountable for the November LSAT and for me to do the same. I am hoping this is someone I can really use for advice, sounding board, and all things LSAT/Law School related. I promise to do the same, no one in my life is preparing for law school so this would be super helpful! Message me! Preferably a girl and my location is Austin, Tx, but I see this being more of an email/text thing.

Hi, I've been studying for the LSAT from July this year. My target is 170+ in the Jan 2024 LSAT (ambitious, i know). But my study schedule has not been consistent. It has seen breaks because of a couple of days because of me being sick or vacation or just my mental health. I have been cognizant of the fact that I would have to take a second attempt and the first one is just a trial run to be more familiar with the exam, but what can I do to maximise my score in the Jan (first attempt) exam itself? My RC and LR sections are strong but I'm PTing in the late 40s because of LG.

My confidence is down; its seems like my score is worse after the blind review because i chose the answers that I was conflicted about. how do i make myself sure and confident its the right answer; I chose E instead D; whats the difference between cautious vs skeptical