Hi, I've been studying for the LSAT since 5 months and I've recently broken into 150s. I always miss a game in LG, almost a whole passage in RC and 2-3 questions in LR, which is why I score much higher in my BR. I want to work on my timing and break into 160s by the Jan exam. Any advice/tips? #help!!

I wanted to share an observation and concern that has arisen for me while working through the Core Curriculum Version 2, specifically about the Drill Generator. I'm about 70% complete with the LR section of the Core Curriculum V2. I started after V2 was launched so its my only point of reference for studying with 7Sage. I have, for the most part, generated a drill at the end of each section as outlined in the Core Curriculum to test my understanding of each topic.

After looking at the 'Show Existing Drills' tab of the Drills page, I noticed the drills generated while going through CC have been pulling questions from PTs as high as PT 76. The only way I see to restrict what tests are pulled from is found in the Drills section of the website; I do not see a way to restrict what PTs the Drill Generator pulls from when the Drill is generated in the Core Curriculum part of the site.

My most basic question is what tests should be pristine coming out of the Core Curriculum? I realized today I don't know the answer to this question. Ultimately, it is not that many questions that have been generated off of these tests, but my observation is that it is not intuitive that the drills at the end of each Core Curriculum section are pulling from a large number of tests. By default, the drills in the CCV2 diminish the number of pristine tests available when we complete the curriculum, which seems to be in opposition to major tenet of proper LSAT prep.

Short version - What tests are we supposed to keep pristine while in/coming out of CC? Do you use the drills feature in the CC on the first pass or start drilling after finishing? Is it set up different in V1?

Thanks!

Okay so I have gotten above a 170 twice now, (171 and 176), which is cool and fun when I see the score, but should I pay attention to them in analytics? My average score is a 162, and with the exception of those two scores I haven't broken 165 in any of the 20 tests I've taken.

I finished PT 77 yesterday and left my screen on the Blind Review section for the night. After I refreshed the website again this morning, all of my progress was lost and the website is starting me again on section 1. Is there anything I can do to get my previous progress/attempt back?

Good Afternoon everyone!

I have my LR down to -4 on average but am not confident in SA and NA questions no matter how much I practice. Any tips on how to do them without diagramming? I get more confused when I diagram and do not find it helpful in the least.

Thanks!

Hi y'all. My struggle is timing, and I am consistently scoring between a 158-161, but I can't seem to break into mid and solid 160s. Any tips? I am shooting for the January LSAT with a 165.

With BR, I range between a 174-178, so I know that I've got the material down, but I think it's really just timing :(

Anything helps! Thanks you!

Hey, everyone.

I never thought I'd be back at square 1 again to redo this exam. I took it in 2021 and got a 154 which was a huge jump from my 137 in 2017. I started my first year at law school from 2022-2023. Unfortunately, since I was not eligible for any loans, I worked full time and overtime throughout my 1L to pay for tuition, and attended school part time. My grades suffered and ultimately my health, too. I was dismissed just at the start of the Fall 2023 semester with no permission for an appeal, though the school was aware of my financial circumstances, and the dismissal letter stated that I was 'facing significant non-academic issues that placed tremendous demands on [your] time'. I tried to apply to a few schools just a few weeks ago after I finally got over the initial shock of being dismissed and having a tarnished record, but none of them allow me to even put in an application for another 2 years after this dismissal. I signed up for the June 2024 exam to see if I can get a higher score, with the intention to try and apply again in Fall 2024 with the hope of returning to law school in 2025 [not my previous law school and ideally a higher ranked one]. Have any of you been in this kind of situation?

For the record, I am not a poor student, but I am financially poor. As an immigrant, I am not allowed to ask for loans. I have paid out of pocket for all my education and even relied on TAP for my undergrad and grad degrees. I graduated from Harvard University with a 3.25 for my Bachelors [took 6 years] and later on with 3.69 for my Masters [took 3 years], and I have 9 years experience as a certified family law paralegal. I'm currently self-employed as an educational consultant and I prepare legal documents for low-income clients with family law cases. My hope was that I would finish law school by my late 30s so I could still commission for JAG and help military personnel going through family law cases, since military and veterans are under-represented in family law courts due to stereo-types associated with their experience, careers, and health.

I'm not saying I'm a great candidate compared to others who already hold multiple degrees and other doctorates, or those with higher LSAT scores, but this dismissal is making me doubt if future law schools would even care to consider these circumstances in conjunction with my experience and note that I am not a bad student.

At this point, is it even worth re-taking this exam and starting from scratch?

Hello 7Sagers!

I'm looking for some tips to help improve my reading comprehension score. I am currently scoring around -12 which is of huge concern given I take my second LSAT in January. While practice is, of course, key to improving my RC score, I need to see lots of improvement in a relatively short amount of time. At present, I seem to be struggling the most with my speed. I take too long answering the questions, which indicates to me that I need to spend more time analyzing the passage. Perhaps some tips on low resolution summaries might help? Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Hi All,

I am looking for 1-2 people who would be interested in free tutoring for an hour or two a week over the next two months. After what has been a valuable experience working with @Sami, I would love to use the opportunity to pass on and personally solidify the strategies I've learned. I am currently scoring in the mid-160s after seeing a 7+ point increase working with her. I've taken the actual test a couple times already and am familiar with the fun that comes with test day.

I am based in the US Central time zone with a very flexible schedule. Shoot me a message if you're interested! Thanks!

I have taken three practice tests now, and have gotten within the 163-167 range each time with similar trends. I am missing 3-5 LR and 3-5LG questions and then roughly 8-10 RC questions. I feel like RC is holding me back from my goal score of 168/170, but I am unsure how to approach my last couple months before the February test. Should I double down on LR and LG, or do my best to try and save a few points on RC by studying that even harder? I know that RC is generally the hardest section to improve on, and I dont want my time and effort to be wasted. Just want to make sure Im using my time as best as I can. Thanks in advance for any thoughts and advice, and good luck to everyone studying.

Need advice figuring out if I messed up on admissions lol. I took the November LSAT, and one of my top choice schools still accepted early decision applications with Nov LSAT scores, but the application would be submitted before you saw the score and populate with the score after. Flash forward to release day, and the score I got was one point below the school's median (1 point below 50 percentile, but above 25 percentile). The day after, I decided to sign up for the January LSAT to boost my score and since it's so close to the median for my goal schools.

I just checked on the status checker for my ED application, and noticed that it unchecked the CAS - No Future LSAT box. I know this is because I signed up for the January LSAT, but is there some kind of rule where you can't sign up for a later LSAT after your ED application has been submitted? I called the admissions office today to ask as much, and they told me to send them an email. But does this affect my application in anyway?

Can someone explain PT13 S2 Q18 to me

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Hello everyone,

I would appreciate it if you could provide insight into some potential questions I have received from various applicants with similar/repeated questions. Here they are:

If an applicant has gone to 3 academic institutions: two in US/Canada and one outside US/Canada, will all 3 transcripts be included in LSAC's GPA? It's worth noting that one institution attended outside US/Canada had a 4.0 GPA grading scale with a US/Canadian-based curriculum.

A course was taken twice/repeated. The transcript shows both grades along with course credit however the 1st attempt is marked as an "extra" course meaning while it does have a credit shown, its credit value is equivalently 0 as it does not count towards the institution's cGPA calculation. Hence, would the 1st attempt need to be mentioned/ will count towards LSAC's GPA calculation?

Would meeting a law school's 75th percentile GPA allow you to get in if you meet its 25th percentile LSAT score? Kinda like a reverse splitter per se.

Thank you :)

Going to start by saying I know very little about how this works... I hear that some people's GPA are raised by the scale that the LSAC uses. The highest grade at my college was an A, an A+ wasn't offered. I have a 3.6 (I think?), therefore would that be raised at all by the LSAC? Assuming I need more information to calculate this I just don't know where to start (lol, as you can tell the grades that brought me down were the math-related courses).

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Hi y’all,

I am taking the Jan LSAT, and I am trying to decide which day to take the test. I’m testing remotely and am fortunate enough to be completely available for all offered days (Wednesday through Saturday).

Is there an optimal day to remote test to avoid issues from Prometric’s end? Does the system run into more difficulties on Friday or Saturday? I’m assuming more people take the test on those days. Are there more glitches on first day?

I took the Nov test on the 2nd day, early in the morning, and didn’t run into any issues.

I understand testing/proctor interruptions are ultimately random. Just wanted to see if anyone had some hunches?

At the end of the day, whatever happens, happens. Best of luck to everyone studying!

Would anybody be able to put me in touch with someone who went to UCI Law? I am applying there and would like to ask them some questions about their experience.

I couldn't find a good explanation for this question.

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Hi Everyone!

Head’s up: later this month, LSAC is doing a system-wide upgrade that will affect some of their online services. It will begin at 5 p.m. ET on Friday, December 22, and is expected to end at around 5 p.m. ET on Saturday, December 23. During these 24 hours, certain LSAC services, including candidates’ online accounts on LSAC.org and LawReady, will be offline.

During this time, people will be unable to complete transactions such as registering for a future LSAT, submitting fee waivers or accommodation requests, accessing their accounts, or submitting applications.

Services on LawHub.org will remain available during the upgrade window. Scheduling for the January 2024 LSAT will continue through Prometric. However, information on candidate accounts will not be updated until the upgrade is completed.

If you have any further questions, you can contact LSAC via https://lsac.zendesk.com/, email them at lsacinfo@lsac.org, or call them at 215.968.1001.

if my parents have received a bachelor's degree in another country do i say yes or no to being a first generation college student? i just wanted to clarify if it matters where they got their degree from

God has really blessed me! I took the lsat 5 times and finally got a 150! I know its not much but im so happy! I want to thank 7sage for all their support!!

Which laptop would be the best one to take LSAT?

I now have a MacBook and updated to macOS 14 Sonoma before the announcement that it is not supported was made. I checked with Apple tech support that it cannot be downgraded. Thus, I’m going to buy a new laptop (I had to buy one anyway) and would love to hear your suggestions! (No MacBook please though)

Also, would love to know if touchscreen laptop is allowed, such as Microsoft Surface Pro 9 or etc.

So I'd like to give some background regarding my current life situation and my statistics applying to law school. Last year, my LSAT score was 148 and I have a 3.4 GPA. I had an amazing personal statement and letters of recommendations were great. I also had a couple months experience working at law firms at the time. However, I was naive and chose not to retake the LSAT and really was on the shit end of the stick. I was waitlisted everywhere and didn't get in to any law school. There is nothing I can do except to look forward and move on and learn from my mistakes. So, I retook the LSAT for November 2023 and I got 154 LSAT. Now, I spoke with my law school advisor and he is telling me that I absolutely need a new letter of recommendation (preferably from current employer which is a law firm) and to add what I have done in the past year in to my personal statement. I'm skeptical on how much this really matters in comparison to my LSAT score jump and I'm just not sure if it's worth going through the hassle of getting a letter of recommendation from my employer, who is a pain in the ass tbh.

So here are my current stats - 154 LSAT, 3.4 GPA, bachelor's degree in philosophy from UCI, 1 years and 10 months experience working at law firms, great personal statement, letters of recommendation, and resume, a re-applicant, I've attended a few schools law school events and have gone on campus tours, and I'm applying in December.

I'm applying to local schools in Southern California - Loyola, Southwestern, California Western, USD, and Western State.

Now my questions and concerns are as follows:

I understand that an updated personal statement definitely matters and I will update it within this week. However, is it really worth getting a new letter of recommnedation when my old letters of recommendations were already solid?

As a re-applicant, I'm very unsure how these law schools will look at me and my application. I know my LSAT score is a big plus but do law schools really care about the other things in my application compared to my LSAT score?

Is the fact that I applied with my previous LSAT score and chose not to retake it until a year after I got denied a bad look? After all, I have a +6 boost in my score.

I could just be overthinking and need to chill tf out. If this is the case, please drop a comment telling me to do. It would be much appreciated.

Thanks to all who took the time to read through my post and current life situation. I look forward to seeing your guys comments.

Based on an examination of three types of rates (small, average size, and large), a recent study found that in rats, SIZE↑ correlates with HEART PROBLEMS↓. In other words, the study found that the greater a rat is, the less likely it is to have heart problems.

RRE EXCEPT. Four of the answer choices must be able to CONTRIBUTE to an explanation of this correlation; one does not. I did not do a pre-phrase here and went straight to the answers.

(A) Compared to large rats, smaller rats are more likely to have fatal diseases that strike earlier than heart problems. Under timed conditions, I took this to suggest: Small rats generally are more likely to die before heart disease strikes, so that heart disease will be overrepresented among the surviving small rats. However, this inference does not follow. If small rats tend to die young, the total NUMBER of surviving small rats that gets heart disease might be smaller, but there is no indication that there would be a corresponding increase in the PROPORTION of small rats that gets heart disease. This answer choice thus does not contribute to an explanation the observed correlation and thus must be right.

(B) Small rats are more likely to have blood vessel issues that causally contribute to heart disease. This helps to explain the correlation.

(C) Larger rats have less stress than smaller ones. If you assume that stress is causally related to heart disease, this contributes to an explanation. Under timed conditions, I thought that this assumption was too big of a jump, but compared to (A) this answer choice still is better. (A) does not contribute to an explanation at all, (C) does so if we make an additional assumption that seems fairly plausible from a common-sense perspective.

(D) The most common cause of heart disease in rats also causes them to be small. This explains the observed correlation by identifying a joint cause of small size and heart disease among rats.

(E) Larger rats do more exercises than smaller rats that causally contribute to heart health. This contributes to an explanation.

(C) is right, (A) is wrong. Under timed conditions, I had taken (A) to lead to a sampling bias making smaller rats not afflicted by heart disease less likely to survive such that heart disease becomes overrepresented among the surviving small rats. However, this inference is false. Just because small rats might be more likely to die for reasons other than heart disease, heart disease does not have to afflict a greater proportion of the surviving rats. I made a mistake here in assessing the implications of this answer choice and then switched to (C) because (C) requires an additional assumption to be explanatory ('Stress causes heart disease').

Takeaways: I originally had chosen the right answer (A) but then switched to (C) after mistakenly making the above-described inference. I likely was overthinking (A). I need to keep an open eye for the distinction between NUMBERS and PROPORTIONs. If unsure, close my eyes for a couple of seconds, do some deep breaths, calm down and reflect. I definitely felt uncomfortable in selecting my answer but could not quite identify what went wrong. NUMBERS vs. PROPORTIONs is a crucial distinction here, similar to e.g. POSSIBILITY vs. ACTUALITY, INATE vs. ACQUIRED, or MENTAL STATE vs. REALITY. Be vigilant, stay alert to these commonly used distinctions.

Hi! just wanted to know how everyone's improvement was after just one month of studying! Starting score and what it was after a month!