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I've been putting in so many hours and the progress is slow, I'm going to say its THERE, but slow!! And that's the challenge to push through the slow progress, because it's easy to get distracted. I have multiple crying sessions throughout the week while studying for it, I'll just have mini breakdown every couple days. How is this journey affecting you? Does anyone else have crying sessions while studying for the LSAT? LMAOO. For me, time is such a killer, I feel like only adding 10 mins to the exam would make me do so much better.

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Hey all,

My internet cut out the last 30 seconds of our LR section review. Apologies for the confusion it caused anyone. In any case, thanks for all in attendance and see you guys next week!

P.S. I'm still looking for cat name suggestions.

Julia

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Hi!

So I had just finished my Nov test and luckily I am signed up for January, but I definitely felt that nasty feeling after finishing it. Now I’m super motivated to do way better for January! I’m looking for some buddies or accountability groups in DFW area (texas) who want to come together and help each other out for the next 2 months!!

let me know!!

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I know there’s a lot of similar posts on here, but I was able to increase my score from a 155 on my initial diagnostic to a 171 on my first LSAT with 2.5 months of 7sage, so I thought I’d share which strategies helped me the most. Figure this will be most useful for anyone else out there who speeds through tests and reading, as that was my biggest Achilles heel.

History – I decided to apply to law school over the summer, in early July, so I was already very under the gun in terms of timing. I mapped out the studying and application process and decided that I would need to take the October and November tests, and could maybe take the January test to help get off a waitlist. That left me exactly 3 months until the October test. The first thing I did was order the Kaplan LSAR Prep book and then take a diagnostic test – which was a 155. Like many people, Logic Games was my kryptonite – I think I truly finished the first 9 questions before time ran out and guessed on the rest. I started studying via Kaplan, and started to pick up on the games a bit, it sort of helped, but not enough. I took a second PT via lawhub and got another 155, and was not feeling great about the progress so far. Then I spoke to someone who recommended 7Sage. I’d already been thinking something interactive and digital would be more helpful, specifically for explanation videos and being able to pay attention to what I did wrong, and so the timing lined up perfectly. With 2.5 months to go, I started on the 7sage learning paths and started triaging what of the syllabus I would be able to cover in that time frame. I was studying about 20-30 hours per week, and so I figured I could do most of LG (since that was my weak point), pick and choose my way through LR, and do the RC one if necessary (ended up being very necessary, which I’ll get to later).

I started with, and probably spent the most time on, LG. I think with LG, it really just comes down to reps. You can’t shortcut that. The more games you do, the more you start to memorize the inferences you have to make, and I could literally catch myself remembering an inference from a similar type of game mid-section. However, I definitely have a bias for speeding through things – a theme throughout my LSAT studying. I had to learn to slow down – practice doesn’t make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. For me, that meant that I needed to stop and review each game (seems obvious but like I said I speed through things) and TRULY understand each inference, and make sure I understood each question (why the correct answer was right, and why the wrong answers were wrong). One thing I started doing towards the end was printing out 5 copies of each game I got a wrong answer on, and then completing them and reviewing each one in depth afterwards. This really helped, and if I could go back and do it again I would absolutely have done this from the beginning. I’d probably just start out printing out 1 star games early, move to 2 star games, 3 star, etc – and use this to supplement the syllabus work. This process allowed me to get to the point where I was consistently around -0, -1, 2. I truly learned to enjoy the LG section, and as weird as it sounds I think I’ll miss not doing those games every day. Sort of sad to see them go too.

Initially, I felt very solid around RC. It’s just reading right? But, like I said I have a tendency to speed through things. I eventually realized my scores were not improving, and I was anywhere from -6 to -9 on most PTs. That was when I dove into the RC syllabus, which absolutely helped change the way I looked at RC. But the biggest mindset shift for me was just slowing the hell down while I was reading. Shifting from finishing the passages in 1:30 to finishing in 3:30-5 minutes is what really helped. It felt like I was wasting valuable time that I could be spending returning to the passages to hunt for details and to rule out incorrect answers, but the scores just spoke for themselves. This way I was consistently able to get around -3, and there was just no arguing with results. I was better able to remember those details and where they could be found, and understand different perspectives and tones throughout. JY’s syllabus material about the low-res summaries helped a lot too – for me, when I first heard this, I started focusing too much on the detail of the passage in the low-res summaries, before shifting to focus on the argument format. Focusing on how the argument was structured helped me answer the questions around the main point and structure of the argument, and slowing down already helped a ton with finding the specific details. I also limited how much highlighting/underlining I was doing – I read somewhere online that sometimes we use marking up passages as a method of saying “I”ll come back to this later,” but when you’re reading a timed passage like this, you don’t have the time to do this. So I tried to focus on just reading, the only other thing I let myself do was write down the 1-2 word low-res summary. Also, RC is another area where reps matter a ton. I absolutely hated doing them everyday, but doing a few passages a day paid off. Doing entire sections at a time was too stressful to do daily for me, so I started doing one passage at a time (timed), and then 2 at a time, then 3 at a time. This got me much more comfortable with the timing (I would also time how long I spent on each passage just reading), and the volume helped me start to pick up on trends across passages. By the end, I was much more naturally acknowledging, as I read, changes in tone or who’s argument this paragraph’s is. I also think re-doing passages from PTs was a worthwhile exercise. I don’t think you can truly understand where you went wrong on an individual question unless you re-do the whole passage. Time consuming, but worth it.

LR was probably the section I spent the least amount of time on, to be frank. I used the syllabus to cover most of the question types (but didn’t really finish any of them after the first few). The biggest bump on LR for me came as a result of the changes I made in RC. Slowing down, and really engaging with each sentence of a passage made a world of a difference. Your work on RC and LR really aid with the other, so I guess the new LG-less LSAT will be at least a more focused study. I never struggled with time on LR like I did with RC and LG, and I found myself consciously forcing myself to slow down. When I realized how slow I could go, I started picking up on things I wouldn’t have otherwise picked up on, eliminating all 4 wrong answers (previously I’d speed through and eliminate 2-3 wrong answers and rush through, ending up with time remaining at the end). Reps were huge in LR for me too, just re-doing all of the PTs I did made a big difference. Like the rest of the test, there are trends in right answers and wrong answers they like to throw out. You really can’t beat just doing and re-doing hundreds and hundreds of questions.

As far as my testing methodology, I was extremely impatient and struggled with the blind review because I wanted to know my score so badly. Eventually I realized if I just looked at the score to satisfy that urge, I could then go set up each section as a drill and re-do it, and that was totally worth it. So, long way of saying blind review is great and totally works, I just needed to see the number, so I found a work around.

All in all, this is just what worked for me, I realize some of this may not provide much help to others. I think if you’re someone who naturally moves quickly through tests and has a tendency to skim while reading, this is probably more relevant to you than to anyone else. That’s the biggest moral of the story for me, forcing myself to slow down made a crazy big difference. Even if you don’t move too quick, the repetitions of the same games in LG will be helpful, that helped me speed up on some of the tougher games. So anyways, go slow, do a ton of reps, and review each wrong answer very carefully. And 7Sage is awesome. Hope that helps!

One last thing – don’t ignore the mental hurdles you go through. I bombed a PT 9 days before the October test and freaked out, felt like I was having a full blown panic attack. I realized I was studying way too much, specifically timed sections, and was just constantly stressed out. I took the next few days off, and didn’t do any more timed work before the test, and it turned out pretty well. So as much as you absolutely need to work hard and push yourself, when stress is really creeping in, take the time off. Do something fun and de-stress. I pushed myself HARD in those 2.5 months, and wouldn’t necessarily recommend it. My strategies were solid, but they would have been way better over 3-4 months instead.

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So today I took my LSAT Writing and felt so lucky with the prompt I got. However, a bit into writing, I realized my grammarly extension was on and I accidentally opened one of the suggestions.. I avoided it for the rest of the exam, but now I'm worried my sample is going to be flagged and cancelled because it'll consider it cheating. This was my first time using proctorU and unlike proctortrack, it didn't tell me which softwares to shut down before the test, so I didn't even think about it. I'm so upset because I got so lucky with my prompt and now I'm thinking I'll likely have to write it again. Does anyone else have any experience with this happening? if so, what happened?I

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I plan to retake the LSAT in January and am wondering how hard it is to have accomodations approved and if law schools will see if I had them?

For those of you who've experienced this already, what materials did you need to provide to the LSAC? I had accomodations in college, would that make it more likely for me to have them approved for the LSAT?

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official November 2023 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the November 2023 LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, November 14th.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

Some examples of typical comments:

The following comments are okay 🙆‍♀️

  • the section on Cambodian woodworking really had me second guessing everything.
  • a few of the games had me confused but think I was okay.
  • overall fair test, struggled on a couple of RC passages (damn you polymorphic molecules) but think I was okay hoping for a -2 or -3
  • The following comments are over the line 🙅‍♂️

  • the passage on Cambodian woodworking didn’t count.
  • I had Cambodian woodworking, Fireflies, and rice farming in Iowa so Lithuanian Lithograph Libraries was experimental.
  • fair test but struggled on a couple RC passages (polymorphic molecules anyone? Thankfully it didn’t count). Don’t want to take again in June
  • Anyone know if Polygamist Societies in the 1880s was real or experimental?
  • Please tell me that polygon dice game didn’t count
  • Good luck to everyone taking the November 2023 LSAT!

    **Please keep all discussions of the November 2023 LSAT here!**(/red)

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    "INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY" in AC B is such a strong claim, I picked AC A bc the stimulus states that in previous decades the estimates are close to each other??

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    Hi, I'm looking for some advice. My test is on Friday the 10th and I'm at the point where I think I'm experiencing burnout. I started a PT today but have no motivation to finish it. I'm PT'ing around where I want to be but the test I'm doing right now is not going well. What's the best approach before my test on Friday. Any advice would be appreciated thank you!

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    Hey 7Sagers,

    Exciting news! We've upgraded our testing platform to include the option to practice the newly structured August 2024 LSAT format (LR/LR/RC). Now, when you're taking a preptest, you can choose from the following versions:

  • Legacy - The classic Preptest format (LG/LR/LR/RC).
  • Current - The modern, 3-section LSAT (LG/LR/RC), which will remain in use until June 2024.
  • August 2024 - The upcoming, revised LSAT format with double LR sections, set to become standard starting with the August 2024 exam.
  • We're thrilled to offer this enhancement to our platform, ensuring you have the most relevant and up-to-date tools for your LSAT prep no matter which version of the test you're targeting.

    Warm regards,

    The 7Sage Team

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    I am scheduled to take my first LSAT this weekend. I can't seem to break a 150, however, and am thinking that I definitley will need to retake it in January. I want to get my applications in before the end of the year, which is why I am conflicted about taking the LSAT in two months. Because my UGPA is way lower than I'd like it to be, I want to show law schools a higher score, though, and feel like that should take priority.

    I have been studying for months now and I feel like I have hit a plateau, which is pretty discouraging. If anyone has advice or has been in a similar situation, I'm all ears. Thank you!

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    Hello!

    I'm wondering, for those of you who have taken the latest PrepTest released by LSAC, #94, how you went about answering Question 8? I don't understand how the student can't take Geology and History in Semester 2? I'm probably messing up my Conditional Translations, and DeMorgan's Law somehow... Can someone help?

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    Hi folks,

    So, I have two letters of recommendation on file and assigned to schools. I have asked three people to write me letters, and I am still waiting on the third. I should get it this week (I would hope), but then again I also thought I would have gotten it by now.

    My question is: If I submit applications now, without the third letter received (and therefore without it assigned), can I assign it to schools once I do receive it even if I have already submitted the applications for those schools? Or is it impossible for me to assign a letter to a school, so that ideally the admissions committee then looks it over at some point, if I have already submitted the application for that school?

    With the utmost respect to all my fellow 7Sage users, I am not interested in advice about whether I should or shouldn't wait to submit applications until I get the third letter. I am interested in the answer to the specific question I asked. Thanks!!

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    So I have a pretty nasty sinus infection/cold. I'm kind of freaking out about how this is going to affect me on test day on Friday since I can't really focus through fatigue and my symptoms. I took the LSAT in September and REALLY didn't get the target score I wanted. I'm planning on submitting my applications in December but if I do as bad on this one too then my plans are kind of messy because I would consider taking the January one but applying in January seems like a bad idea from all that I've seen, so November kind of feels like my last shot. Any thoughts? Please?

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    I been having a hard time overcoming this plateau I been in for the past 2 months. I finally saw a difference in how I engaged with the material with my lsat PT and saw a small increase. What I been doing has been making sure I have a strategy for every LR question, but I still have a hard timing getting those level 4-5 questions correct. I know the way to get better at logic games is to just do them everyday. If anything has helped anyone overcome a plateau I'm all ears. I been studying for 5 months now and taking the January exam and I'm just becoming frustrated because feels like anything I do isn't helping. Any comments will be very helpful even if it has to do with a strategy for a question type.

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