I began my LSAT journey last year and ended up deciding on a gap year after a few months of studying because I wasn't hitting close to my goal. Took a break till around May 2023 and enrolled back in 7sage with the goal of getting a 171+ by November! Thankful for this program as it was the majority of what I used over my time studying. I am enrolled in November (did it as a backup) so I will probably be retaking again just to see what happens now that the pressure is off.

Huge thanks to @RaphaelP for the help cleaning up my RC... his methodology brought me down to -3 on test day which was fortunately enough for my score. Highly recommend him as a tutor!

For those of you that have questions about the LSAT feel free to PM me or leave them here... I am a pretty active member of this discussion board and would love to answer any questions.

Because the v.2 CC is a lot shorter, according to my study schedule I would be finished months earlier than my intended test date (August 2024) I don't want to step back and stop studying just so my study schedule lines up with my test date (taking it in Aug b/c no logic games, so I don't want to take it sooner either) so what is best to do with this major amount of extra time?

So I just got my score for this October LSAT. Got a 150 after having spent the last 4 ish months PTing around 160-166. To say i'm quite devastated is an understatement but I'm going to chalk it up as a really bad fluke because I kind of let the nerves get to me on test day. I guess I just want some advice on what people do to help them on their actual test days to get their scores to mirror what they're actually capable of. Also, I'm scheduled to take January as the schools I'm applying to all accept the January test as the latest and my applications are already submitted. Is this going to hinder my chances of getting in anywhere because I understand admissions are on a rolling basis. Do you guys think they'll truly wait on my January score if it says thats the latest they'll accept?

Can you please bring back the Logic Games section in version2? I understand the new LSAT does not have Logic Games after August, however I think that this is a disservice to those taking the LSAT before August. I'm taking the November LSAT and was relying on the Version 2 lessons, and now my study schedule has been interrupted as a result. It was brought back then removed again. Version 2 is shorter than Version 1, I do not have the time to go through Version 1. Please let me know if you can help!

🔢 I'm currently scoring: 155-160

📆 My planned test date: June 2024, potentially taking again August 2024

📈 To study, I have been: Haven't studied for the LSAT in a while, but want to take it before they remove logic games!

🔑 My goals for this group are: Hold each other accountable, help high scorers cement understanding by helping lower scorers, & schedule time to take PTs, also networking with other legal professionals.

🔍 We'll focus on: Getting Logic Games down to -1/0 is my personal goal.

👥 Study Group Name: TBD

📚 When we'll meet and what we'll do: TBD

✅ How to join: Comment below with your username in your preferred group chat system. We'll make a group chat in the preferred app :)

I have been studying for about three weeks now and feel like it is still slightly ineffective to take a PT each week this early and would benefit more from getting through most of the lessons initially. I took two diagnostics so far and feel as though not having really viewed each section, yet my score is most likely not going to improve. I know the benefits of blind review but would have to imagine taking a test each week after not enough practice is not going to yield as much growth opportunity as studying for maybe the first month or so. By the way I have a target test date of April but may push to June depending on how I am scoring on PTs when I get closer to that date.

Hello Everyone. I decided today that I would push back my LSAT date to August rather than June. I decided to do this because I am not that good at Logic Games and would rather spend more time practicing the LR and RC sections. With this being the case, I was so excited to see that there was a v2 of the core curriculum that focused on LR and RC. However, when looking at the “Learn” section of 7Sage, I noticed that there is only 94 hours of content instead of the hundreds of hours of content that was there in v1.

How do you all feel about the v2 Core Curriculum and more specifically do you think it will be a better option than v1’s Logic Games and Reading Comp sections?

I am not sure if i should cancel or not. the percentiles and score bands are very different. Has anyone here cancelled and had a good outcome?

Hi!

Does anyone have any engaging/useful/motivating podcasts related to LSATs that they recommend? My commute to work is an hour and I need something to help me feel productive. Would greatly appreciate it! :)

Hello, I have been studying for a handful of months now after I rushed way too early last febuary and bombed the test with a 139 7 lower than my diagnostic.(I hate tests) I was aiming for this February to take it again in hopes that I could achieve a score in the mid 150s. Except it just seems that no matter what I do I cannot figure out this test. Lately I have been slowly going through the course and just drilling question types as many times as possible in hopes that I slowly start to develop strategies and then take another PT. Ive been told this is not hard to do multiple times from people but I just feel lost. Any advice or a breakdown of what your study schedule was I would appreciate. Mid 150s would get me into a decent law school :) but as of now Im basically just losing hope :/

After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

Hello!

The title says it all, but I have been studying for about 10-15 hours / week on my own with 7Sage, The LSAT Trainer, and Loophole while working part-time for the past 5 months. I used to PT around 160-162 since August, but since moving to a new house in September, I started scoring below 150-155. On the October Test, I thought I did better on RC and LR than usual, but on LG, which was the last section, I completely panicked and had to guess half of them, whereas during PT's LG was my strongest section, where I missed 0 to 1 every time, and what kept me motivated. I know I could have put in more time and effort, and although I am not a super genius, I was pretty despaired and depressed to not see any increase at all (combined GPA is 3.94, graduated from top 10). The 150 score is highly making me doubt my aptitude in this field and question if I should continue studying or if it would be wise to give up now. Studying and practicing the law has always thrilled me, but I have often felt like I am not really the type of person for the LSAT. I thought about getting a tutor or attending a class, but am not in the right financial situation to be able to afford that..:/ If I should continue, should I cancel my score, or will that play against me? I would love any advice, as I am very stuck in making this decision. Thank you so much in advance!!

Hi everyone,

I was hoping if anyone can give me some clarity on a situation I am in.

I am applying to Law School right now with the goal of getting in for next September (Fall 2024). I am Canada based so a lot of my applications are actually due tonight (Nov 1st).

I wrote the Oct LSAT and I just got the score back today and I got a 154. This is OK, but I would like to aim for a higher score. I will be scheduling to write again in January, as that is the latest possible score most schools I am applying to take.

My situation is that I don't necessarily want the schools I am applying to, to consider this October score, and would prefer if they wait until my January score. I have the ability to cancel the score, so I don't know if I should cancel it, or is there some way to reach out to the schools and tell them to wait on my decision for a future score? I'm just unsure because I know sometimes a cancelled score can be considered a bad look, but I know I can work harder and do much better in January so I also think it might be worth it to take that risk.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks guys! :)

Hi all, just wondering how to access the V2 or the new curriculum? Thanks in advance!

I'm having a ton of trouble with the LR section. does anyone have advice?

I have completed a couple of drills but unable to view results. I will be glad if someone can please walk me through.

Hello,

I have studying for couple months now but I'm not seeing any improvement with LR. The most I can answer in that section is until question 17th. My score have been constantly 8/17 and 11/17 after BR based on just what I answered. I believe my review hasn't been effective. I do have a wrong answer journal and redo questions sometimes. Sometimes I get them right and sometime I get them wrong again. How can I review LR effectively and improve? Any advice pleasseeeeeeeeeee

Is it safe to say that on the LSAT we always have to accept the premises as true? When I do an LR section, I don't usually take the time to "attack" arguments and prephrase. I basically quickly glance at the question stem, read the argument (identifying the conclusion and evidence), and then, I go straight to the AC's. Maybe, I'm too obsessed with timing. Generally, I -6 on LR. Does anyone have any strategies, or suggestions?

Is taking the LSAT in January and submitting my application materials too late for the Fall 2024 class?

I have been out of college for some time and really do not want to put off law school any longer so any advice is greatly appreciated. I understand it would put me at a disadvantage compared to those applying before thanksgiving but do I still have a decent shot if I score in the high 160's? I have backups that are decent in the T50s and below but ideally I would like T30 and above.

Does anyone else struggle with LG way more than LR and RC? I significantly improved on those sections, but I haven’t improved much on LG. It’s the one section that’s REALLY holding me back. So, I have a some questions.

For the games you have trouble with:

-How many times do you repeat them?

-How long do you wait between each repeat?

-When do you start timing yourself?

-When do you expect to get the game done in target time?

-More broadly, what is your LG study process?

My process is as follows:

I’m working on In/Out games right now. I’ll do the problem set on my own untimed. I’ll then watch the explanation video and set the game up like JY. I’ll compare my notations and diagramming to his. I’ll then rework the game question by question using the new setup. I’ll attempt each question again by myself and then watch JY explain it. After this, I’ll table the game for 1-2 days and then try it again on my own. It will be better at this point, but I usually don’t hit the target time.

Is this process effective? Is there anything I could do differently?

So,

I have been studying had for 2months, and I think I've done decent. I've got my self to a 165-168 range constantly. But this progress seems to have forzen over the last 3 weeks with me being locked in that range. With the mode being 167.

I'm constantly 0- -2 on the LG, -3/-5 RC, and always fucking -6 on LR. I used to be worse on RC, but that improved at the cost of the LR.

I think I may be struggling with LAWGIC, I'm not entirely sure. The def suggest I'm getting SA and NA wrong, 1 or more of each per test. but the rest is just all over the place.

FYI, I've done the loophole, which IMO did nothing for me. I've done the 7sage CC.

Any advice for a 2 3 question bump on LR by exam date. I'd love to crack 170, however doubtful.

Hey everyone, I've been reading and seeing some of the discussions and I've been seeing so many posts of people feeling very discouraged, sad, and I want to share advice to you guys that has helped me fight through this test. Something that I understood was that this test is not only testing my skill, but from several YouTube videos, articles and reddit threads it hit me that not only my skills are being tested, its me as a person, my discipline and confidence. I watched so many videos on how to study, how to prepare, and yes, the cringe advice of sleep and eat healthy will help, IT WORKS!

So, to go down the list that I have added to my study routine let's start with the first thing. (if you're able to do these things, hopefully they help you! I know not all of us are in the same situations, but making small tweaks to your routine can help)

Fix your sleep schedule. Please, it's not worth it to stay awake studying until 3:00 am, so the next day you wake up and start studying again you're falling asleep. Your sleep schedule impacts so many aspects of your life, respect it! You'll feel so much better.

Eat as healthy as you can. Not meaning to go in a diet, eating healthy its not targeted for weight loss. There are foods that make you feel sick, and bad, and they do not provide any benefit other than make you feel bad! I started meal prepping, and I started to check out all the foods that make me feel bad, because yes, you feeling exhausted, bloated, sad, can be distracting. I'll use myself as an example, I drink a to of water, like a lot. I am lactose intolerant, and also, allergic to gluten! I still eat some dairy, but its only cheese, and I try to find a cheese that its not as processed, and I found some great affordable options. Gluten, I don't eat as much foods with gluten, so that's not a problem. Right now, I am in the process of cutting off sugars (I won't at all, I love my lil treats) but my sugar consumption isn't as high as it used to be. And most importantly, caffeinated drinks. They give me anxiety, and I have enough, so I don't need stuff to accelerate it. Try to find foods that will make you feel energetic, that will give you enough carbs so your body can have the enough energy to LIVE! Another thing is that, I cut off foods that are high in sodium, it makes me feel sick, and in all honesty, I don't want any distractions on test day, my stomach can be one, any pain, gas, etc can be distracting, with anxiety I feel all my nervousness in my stomach (something that I am working on) but also, try to feel and eat clean. Find foods and make combinations that have a lot of nutrients, you'll feel so much better.

Create a routine. If you're able, I understand life can be hectic and some of us have more responsabilities than others. I am still working on my routine. Currently I have no responsibilities other than my dog. I was able to quit my job for a while, but I made the decision to push my test date so I could work, and study and don't feel super pressured. For me, I study for 3-4 hours daily. No more than 5h+. Allow yourself to have breaks during your study sessions, but no, the break doesn't mean grab your phone and go on TikTok. Means, go outside, or walk around, drink water, stretch, have a snack, go look at the sun idk. Personally, the routine has been making me feel so much better, and I make sure to give time to everything I needed. I'm also very flexible, life is not linear, but you will feel way more confident if you complete smalls tasks through your day.

CLEAN AND BE ORGANIZED. I can stress this enough! My aunt is a psychologist and she always told me that my spaces look like my mind looks. If my car was messy, my room was messy, it meant that I was and most of the time, I was going through something. I organized my room, cleaned my desk, my closet, and created a space for myself, to study, to write, to focus. I keep my car clean, and I try to keep as clean as I can, and of course I have fallouts, and it gets messy, but cleaning it, and seeing how nice and cleans looks encourages me to keep it that way. and I also feel better. I totally understand that not all of us are able to live in clean conditions, and have our own spaces, but if you're able, I recommend going to your public library, and good news! you don't spend money (bc yes, Starbucks isn't always the right place to study). You need a quiet space to be able to focus! and they also have some LSAT study books with resources for FREE, so you don't have to buy the books all the time, you can borrow them! (also, I looked up the power score bible books on FB Market and found even on $20 dollars each book).

Exercise, or just MOVE! Walk around, move, workout doesn't have to lifting weights (but they are amazing to help you focus, they had helped me so much to learn how to focus) it can be going down the stairs for 10 min, walking your dogs, using bags as weights, or simply do some stretching there are amazing 10 min stretch videos on YouTube to avoid back/neck/hip/waist/ pain. No need to go the gym (but if you can, slay girl yesss!)

pls, please TURN OFF YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU STUDY! ITS A DISTRACTION. My phone played a huge role in my waisting time! and yes, it cluttered my mind. I realized that how many information I was putting into my brain at 6:00 am, by watching TikTok or reels, and just all that content and all the emotions I was feeling, bc yes dog videos can make you emotional and then seeing a funny video and laugh, like going from sad to joy in 7 seconds its not normal, your brain needs time to feel all these EMOTIONS, and process them. I now only have one form of social media, and I am able to do other things to distract myself, and even DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, like we should learn HOW TO GET BORED AGAIN! Yes, those 5-10 minutes you spent just staring at the screen not doing anything important other than mindless scroling are not good for you. Get away from your phone and learn how to control that desire of always wanting to be distracted. Read a book before you go to sleep, 10 pages you'll go to sleep even faster if you don't like reading.

You'll not only feel good, you'll look even better. Studying for the lsat, if you choose to take care of yourself can come with a glow up. It took me a while to realize that this test could also make me a better human. I stopped seeing it as a test that was going to change my life, but an opportunity to be a better version of myself, because, you learn a new way to think, you're more agile, your comprehension skills are better. You are just getting better at being yourself. You are already smart, you're just insecure and afraid. Those thoughts are blocking you, because you are the only person that its stopping you into becoming an even better human, than you already are. I wasn't thought how to be a disciplined person, but I learned how to, and also a part of high school taught me how to because other conditions that are private. But it takes just one small thing to accomplish so you get everything done. Getting a low score in your diagnostic doesn't mean you won't have a huge increase, it's NORMAL. going down 1-2 points, ITS NORMAL. But it all depends on how you see it.

On the reading Power score LSAT bible, in chapter two in one corner says, "A positive attitude perhaps its the most underrated factor in LSAT success. Virtually all high scoring students expect to do well on the LSAT, and that this mindset helps them avoid distractions during the exam and overcome the adversity they might face" it also says, that "This upbeat mentality is something that all high-scorers embrace, and its something that you should strive to establish from the outset, as well.

It's not worth it to study and beat yourself up because you don't understand, stress is mind blocking. Don't block your mind, don't reject yourself, give yourself days to catch up on study in your schedule for me it was every Friday. Give yourself a break and don't say no to yourself. No one is going to make you reach a higher score. Hours of studying, tutoring, and obsessing won't matter if you're not in the right state of mind. Something I heard a lot from my LSAT professors is that, this is like learning on how to ride a bike, you fall so many times, and you get frustrated, and when nothing is working, you STOP, and BREATHE. you clear your mind and all of the sudden you're riding that bike, because unconsciously you found balance. If nothing is working, stop, relax, hug yourself, drink water and strike again. Be kind to yourself and remember, there are so many benefits from taking this test, its not about the score, its about what you learn, don't listen to trolls, statistics, or OTHER PEOPLES LIMITATIONS, they're not yours. and most importantly, don't be discourage and learn to separate yourself from the commentary. I love 7 sage, and I know some people here say stuff like, this is as hardest as it gets on the LSAT (when explaining some of the games) or saying, this is a stupid answer to pick. You're here to learn. You're not those words, there are people that can get extremely discourage from hearing this words, and NO, its not as hard as it gets, for learning there are not limits, I am extremely effective when doing some of the hybrid logic games, but when it comes to the simple sequencing I over think. Words are important, and it's just as important to learn how to control your mind. Some people might say that "realistically" the lsat is hard, or that you need to look at things realistically, but to me that word has never existed and it shouldn't for you. Life is amazing, and yes, life has different situations, and complications as you don't know mine, so, don't be angry or say, "oh she doesn't know hard work" or "she has no responsibilities" or "my life is hard", and like I said, I have also a life, relationships, and they were difficult, and once I learned how to calm my mind, because I realized that 80% of the reason that I was miserable, it was my mindset that made me miserable. (and yes, it can be like that) others, simply live in uncontrollable conditions, that affect them, but if you're studying for this test, and reading this, I hope you find something here that can bring to you some peace, or an answer, or courage. you're already brave enough when you made the decision to take the LSAT.

*sorry for the typos, or grammar errors, I got to excited and English is my second language so yes! I can't always type as fast as I think.

Thank you guys (3(/p)

Hey guys! So I started with a diagnostic of 147 and have managed to pull my PT's up to the 163 ish range currently. Do you think it is possible at all to score a 168 or 169 by the time I actually take the test on Nov. 9th? I am usually getting about 21/28 on RC, 20-21/25 on LR and 19/23 ish on LG depending on the test. I will keep a 163 or better, but I am trying to attend UGA and have heard that I really need a 169 or better to ensure I get in. Thanks!~

Hello! I recently graduated and work full time. I try to get in a couple hours of studying after work and on the weekends, but have definitely been slacking. I'm looking for a group to meet virtually 5-7pm ET on weekdays maybe longer and meet for a couple of hours on the weekends. If anyone if interested please leave a comment or send a message. Thank you!

probably a really stupid question.... But are there going to be more test dates in 2024? Right now there is only Feb, april, and june? If there are more test dates to be offered, when will they be posted? thanks.