Hi lovely people, I need some advice on how I can improve my score from high 150s to 160s for the October LSAT. My average score right now is 159.1. My best score is 163, but I haven't been doing well on my most recent PTs.

I'm struggling a lot with Flaw questions. The problem I have seems to be that although I managed to identify the flaw from reading the stimulus, once I moved on to the ACs, the wording confused me and I ended up picking the wrong AC.

Also, my RC score has been fluctuating from -3 to -9 and I don't even know what I'm doing right or wrong.

I have been doing BR and keeping a wrong answer journal from the beginning. I don't know what else to do. What should I be focusing on now? Keep doing more PT? Review Flaw questions and do more drills? Taking untimed RC drills?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Hi everyone! 7Sage Alum here. After a year or so of grueling practice, I finally got a score I wanted to shoot my shot for a T-14 this past August - a 170! I'm a bit nervous applying because I took the LSAT three times, with 2 previous attempts with logic game and the August one without (does that also matter? will the 170 be discounted in anyway because it was in the new format?) I wondering if I need to write an addendum to explain what happened and if so, what to write in it.

For more details, here is my LSAT history: November 23: 159, January 24: 163, August 24: 170

Hello,

I am studying for the November LSAT, and am wanting to get some feedback.

Currently, I am working my way through Logical Reasoning, and as such am doing roughly 5-10 questions or prep per day. I have taken one diagnostic test (basically completely cold to start) and have not done any since.

My question is: is there a way to use certain questions for drills, without seeing them again when you do practice tests? Is this a concern that anyone else has worked through, or just me? I don't mind a little cross over, but I just don't want a ton as I feel like that would give me an inaccurate picture of what my scores are on PTs when I get to that point.

Thank you for your consideration and time!

I got a 156 on the August LSAT, lower than what I got on PTs while I was studying. I'm retaking in October and really would like to be in at least the mid 160s. I am so lost on how to study to make this happen. I did PTs and drills for the first test with a wrong answer journal but felt like I was not improving. Any advice is super appreciated!

Don't need an incredible score, just need a solid base in October in the high 150s. Any advice is helpful. I'm just struggling for the last few months in a study rut.

I took the June LSAT with ZERO studying and no accommodations, just to see how I would do with logic games before they were gone forever and got a 161.

I’ve completed all the lesson videos and done a handful of drills, but haven’t really had time to take an actual practice test.

I take the September LSAT this Thursday and am really hoping I don’t have to retake in November.

So I’m wondering is a 7 point jump realistic now that I’ve studied and have accommodations for time and a half?

I think as long as I get a 165 I won’t be completely crushed, but obviously I just want to be done.

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a copy of Ellen Cassidy's Loophole and it seems to be unavailable everywhere. I'm in Canada but can pay for shipping from wherever. Please let me know if you have a used copy you want to part with.

Thanks,

D.

I've been studying for the LSAT for a almost half a year now, and on PTs I've been consistently scoring in the high 160s. I've noticed a pattern on all of my tests where I usually do extremely well on one or two sections (talking -1/-2) and then bomb the third section. I fear that stamina and consistency are my issue more than a skill issue. Are there any tips on increasing consistency/accuracy? (especially RC which is the section I've noticed the most fluctuation in my score anywhere from -2 to -6).

I am studying with a group and it gets kind of confusing and inconvenient that if i drill/PT in the new format it doesnt have any records of questions ive already seen.

Hi all! I followed through and made a discord for a study group for those of us taking the Nov 2024 LSAT. Feel free to join here! https://discord.gg/Rv9dz8VC

Hi, I just took my August LSAT and I like my score, however, I will be taking it again in October. I was wondering if anyone has any insight on when is a good deadline to have my applications in by.

I also know that some people are offered fee waivers to apply to specific schools by those schools. Is there anything people do in particular to be offered those?

Hi! I'm thinking about making a small study group on Discord for the November 2024 LSAT for quiet study as well as study events. Comment if you're interested!

7sage as a learning platform and the community have helped me out so much in my own LSAT journey, so I just wanted to share a bit about that journey so others can find comfort in going through similar lows and see that it can all end up alright.

Took my diagnostic in December 2023 (with games) and got a 150 and was absolutely crushed. I'm still an undergrad and have done well in school so far, so to say that shook my confidence in my own intelligence and capacity to be a successful attorney is an understatement. I know others have started with lower diagnostics, but it was stilling crushing for me.

I did a prep class through my university from January to April that certainly helped, but even taking a lighter credit load I found I was too busy to really dedicate the time necessary to make the jump I wanted on this test. May was when the grind really started and I pulled the trigger and bought a 7sage subscription and . . . that changed everything. Drilling and actually learning how to BR/review my wrong answers for the first time totally changed how I studied. Part of the issue with my university prep class was we were never really shown how to review wrong answers, which I think is the absolute most important part of studying for this test. Within about two weeks of drilling/BRing on 7sage, my average score jumped by about 4-5 points.

I spent the rest of the summer grinding away without seeing too much progress until I saw a random decline in my scores over the course of two weeks. I ended up taking a week off from studying, which felt really counterintuitive at the time but I quickly realized was the right decision. My scores jumped back up and I felt well rested. I also broke 170 for the first time soon after, which really gave me confidence going into the test.

Which brings me to the test itself. I didn't 100% master the LSAT (inasmuch as that's possible) - I spent most of June-late July PTing around 160mid, with one blip at 170. That test, and the actual test itself on Aug 10, involved quite a bit of luck. During both tests my mind felt uncharacteristically clear and I saw through stimuli and answer choices faster and more accurately than I ever had before.

I'm happy that I got a 170 on August, but it also feels slightly hollow because I've seen so many people on this and other forums in similar spots that just got a little unlucky on the test and scored lower than their averages (I didn't get the crazy experimental LR or RC sections everyone is talking about for example). Which isn't to say that my score is only attributable to luck - it tooks eight months of grinding to build my skills to a point where I had the chance of seeing the test the way I did on August 10.

Anyways, here are what I see as takeaways from my journey others could benefit from:

Misc Info

My PT Progression: 150 (Diagnostic), 154, 156, 154, 160 (once I decided to stop studying for games), 155, 161, 161, 162 (first PT w 7sage), 162, 166!, 165, 164, 165, 166, 160, 159, 167, 170, 161, 166, 170 (actual thing).

Here's a link to a master list of flaws I made: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WmcrEgcgSKbEilV70O8FEiVq_a1AHwCSfxfj_cuhznw/edit?usp=sharing

Cheers and best of luck studying. On to the admissions grind!

Hello all!

I am looking to create a study group for those taking the November LSAT. If interested, leave a comment! I am thinking either group me or messages will be the most efficient way to communicate, so if you could leave your phone number I will create the group!

Greetings 7Sagers!

As promised, Dr. Riley and I are going to address some of the most common questions from last night's Q&A that we weren't able to get to. We'll be adding questions and responses to this thread through the end of the week!

Warmly,

Taj

I took the August LSAT and received a score back today lower than was hoped or expected. I’m registered for October as well and I know I can do so much better than I did. Should I keep my score so law schools can see the progress made or is it better not to report it so that they don’t judge me based off that score?

Scores from August 2024 were released and I am really disappointed. I scored a 163. My PT scores range from 165-170, the average being 167. I am super bummed about scoring that low. I felt that my nerves were under control on test day and when I was finished with the test I felt confident I had done well. This is a major blow to my confidence and I am not sure how to proceed other than to try again in October.

Any advice? Anyone have a similar experience? Does anyone know if there is a way to review the official test to see what I got wrong?

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Comment your discord and I'll add you. We have about 800 members and we study together multiple times a week and help each other out with LSAT questions as well as the whole law school admissions process in general. I update the link every week as well!

Link here as well: https://discord.com/invite/lsat

how did we all do- better than pts or lower? I got a 168 my highest/normal pts are 170-171 but overall I'm pretty happy. Any advice on whether I should retake it in October- I'm pretty close to my goal and I had a lot of nerves on test day. Not sure I want to keep studying though

Hi everyone,

I'm currently scoring around the 170 area in PTs, and I'm trying to come up with ways to improve. I think the biggest issue is a mix of silly mistakes + getting wrong on the tough questions for LR. I've been taking a PT roughly every week and have been BR-ing and reviewing thoroughly. I was wondering if anyone who was in a similar position found any drilling strategies or study strategies in general effective for improving from 170 onward. Any help would be appreciated!

Hi all!

I am taking the April 2025 LSAT, and I am looking to start a study group. Regardless of when you plan to take the LSAT, I think that this may be able to benefit some people.

Hi everyone!

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Hi all,

I've been struggling a little more on Necessary Assumption questions. I am doing great on Sufficient Assumption, though!

For N.A., I understand the stimulus but when I go into the answer choices I can't figure out which is the N.A. or which ones to take out. I am usually able to remove 1-2, but am left with 3 that I struggle removing. I even do the negation and am still unable to figure it out from the remaining 3.

Are there any tips that have helped anyone on how to find the N.A.?

Let me know!!

So, I'm sure a lot of you are in the same boat as me and are panicking for the September LSAT. I am reaching out to ask people who have already written the test or are also writing it next week, what they are doing to prepare themselves for test day. I know I should get a good sleep, exercise, and eat to keep my energy intact but besides that, what's the best practice for these last 7 days? Should I be doing full practice tests every day, drilling, doing sections, or just relaxing? I know that I will probably not get my desired score, however, I want to put my all into this and not let my last 4 months of studying go to waste. I am also seeking any tips for how to keep up your momentum, considering the test is fairly condensed in 2 hours and 45 minutes.

My other area of concern is my argumentative writing sample. In the next week, I don't have any free time to complete it and was wondering when is the latest that I can complete it and still get my score on September 25th like everyone else? Also, I was planning to go into it blind, but have been told otherwise. How many practice samples should I complete? I don't want to waste my time, but at the same time, I want to be able to write a well-crafted essay.

Finally, for those who have done remote testing, when do you recommend setting up the test software and is 30 minutes before the exam a sufficient amount of time to log in and get settled in with the proctor?

For anyone who has reached this far and takes the time out of their day to ease my anxiety by replying to my thread, thank you in advance and good luck to you all!