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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official November 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the November LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, November 15th.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

Some examples of typical comments:

✅ The following comments are okay 🙆‍♀️

  • the section on Cambodian woodworking really had me second guessing everything.

  • a few of the games had me confused but think I was okay.

  • overall fair test, struggled on a couple of RC passages (damn you polymorphic molecules) but think I was okay hoping for a -2 or -3

    • ❌ The following comments are over the line 🙅‍♂️

  • the passage on Cambodian woodworking didn’t count.

  • I had Cambodian woodworking, Fireflies, and rice farming in Iowa so Lithuanian Lithograph Libraries was experimental.

  • fair test but struggled on a couple RC passages (polymorphic molecules anyone? Thankfully it didn’t count). Don’t want to take again in June

  • Anyone know if Polygamist Societies in the 1880s was real or experimental?

  • Please tell me that polygon dice game didn’t count

    • Good luck to everyone taking the November LSAT!

    **Please keep all discussions of the November 2022 LSAT here!**(/red)

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    current 3L here - I was watching Barbri videos on 1.75x speed which reminds of the time I was watching all JY vidoes on 1.5x speed. Contrary to my user name, I actually never got that 173 on LSAT, but did get into a T20 and will start in biglaw starting next summer.

    Looking back it's amazing how much I've changed over the last 2.5 years of law school. I'm turning this into an AMA, so if you have questions or need encouragement ask away.

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    I recently took a PT untimed and got a 170. I am looking to meet anyone living in Seoul to meet and talk about the LSAT and maybe deal with whatever we can. I know how to approach and study for the test now but we can maybe meet and talk about what we can do to improve. I think essentially it is productive to meet offline and talk about this. We can meet at Wing Study Café at Exit 9 of Gangnam station. They charge 1,900 KRW per hour for each person. In other words, if we meet for three hours, the cost would be 5,700 KRW per person. I can also tutor for free if anyone is just starting and want to learn the basics of the LSAT. If we meet for a tutoring, we would divide the cost of using the study café 1/n. In other words, no need to pay me anything other than the fee for using the study café for yourself. Please send me an inbox. Thanks!

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    Hey everybody! Tomorrow/the day after is game day! Good luck. I'm rooting for you. What are you going to do today to relax/get ready? Personally, I'm gonna take one last mini-drill (a logic game, a reading passage, and 5 LR Q's) then go on a hike or get into nature, workout, maybe game a bit, etc. I'm proud of the work I've done, and you should be too. We're all going to make it. I will be sending out big-brain vibes to you all tomorrow.

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    Apologies in advance for the urgency but I am taking the LSAT on Saturday and my account isn't linking to my LawHub Account. I paid for PrepPlus already.

    I made a new account on 7sage instead of using my old account since it's older but now I'm having issues using the site specifically drills. it keeps asking me to link it and when I click the link or try via the email I received it says user is already registered to this coach.

    Do I need to delete my other 7sage account?

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    Hi all! Basically asking the question in the title. I'm up for November but for some reason I can't shake the fear that I won't be ready for it (as in, not the best I could do for the schools I want to get into). I've spoken to a few of the schools I wanted to apply to and they've all said they take the January LSAT, but I worry that even if I get a higher score in Jan than November, it will be too late to apply.

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    I've been doing LR for some time and for so long have been stuck around -5/-4. I have a solid grasp on the question types and what they require me to do, but I'm also lazy and have, for my entire LSAT study journey, avoided fully diagramming and exploring the logic embed in LR questions. I can eliminate most answer choices based on general rules, such as "this answer is prescriptive and therefore wrong". However, this approach which isn't exactly thorough prevents me from fully understanding the logic structure embed in any given stimuli, and by extension, also from applying said logic structure to the answer choices. Thus, with my shortcut approach, not only am I consistently not improving, but also liable to do much worse when that intuition is hindered by pressure on test day (done the test 3 times)..

    I joined on his live class on a whim, which requires the updated subscription to access ( I believe $99 a month?), and I am taking my LSAT 3 days from the time of this post. All I can say is, I wish something like this was available sooner. JY's logic diagramming within his explanation videos are good (I think?) but they don't cut quite as deep when compared to live classes that often lead to a 'no loose ends' analysis.

    The pace of live classes are not fast, going over just a handful of questions in the 1:30 - 2 hours. With that being said, there were no questions that we went over in which I did not learn something new. In this sense, the analysis is thorough. This is surprising, because the questions asked by participants/7sagers during his live session often initially struck me as trivial. They almost always, however, lead to a point that I personally did not notice/consider/realize. For allot of the questions I considered easy, they could've very easily (if the LSAT makers wanted to) been turned into a 4/5 star level question, and in that case, what otherwise seemed like a trivial inference, has now become a critical component of the question - that I would've missed.

    During class, JY said something along the lines of 'Even if your intuition works, you need to be able to prove it'. If you feel you lack in this regard, I recommend you join his LR live classes. Whilst, I cannot speak to the efficacy of this class for those scoring near perfect on LR, I think for everyone else, these live classes may very well be worthwhile.

    Not an advertisement, just a guy who's been studying for this damn test longer than he should be. If you're on the fence, give it a try.

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    Pre-Phrasing is not perfect, but certainly can aid in eliminating questions. I am looking for Question Types that work very consistently with Pre-Phrasing. Below is a list of Questions Types that I believe work consistently, but I would love to create a discussion and get additional perspectives.

    Main Point/Conclusion

    Argument Part

    Fill-In

    Flaw

    Parallel Flaw

    Method of Reasoning

    Parallel Method of Reasoning

    Point of Agreement

    Point of Disagreement

    Counter

    Contradiction

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    Are you looking for an easy way to find people to study with? Or do you just want a break from reviewing questions on your own?

    You're in luck! Join us for our next "Study Group Breakout" on Monday, December 5th from 9:00-10:30pm ET.

    Here's how it works:

  • Register for the Breakout no later than Sunday, December 4th.

  • Take PT53 Section 1 (based on 7Sage's numbering - should be an LR section) and blind review it, but DON'T look at the answers (I suggest you take it as a "Drill" rather than as a PrepTest)!

  • Log in to the Breakout Session at the appointed time. We will automatically place you in a group of 3-5 students with similar scores so you can review the section together.

  • At the end of the session, you can exchange emails and keep meeting if you enjoyed the group.

    • Hope to see you there! Register for the event using this link:

    https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZckceutqDMpGdNlRj7KxpjosXpyPdXd2LEz

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    Hi! I recently did the drill for the weakening section and saw that two of my questions were pulled from PrepTest A and didn't have explanation videos. I noticed on the explanation videos tab there was a "Test A February 1996", but that there are only explanations for logic games. What makes PrepTest A different from other tests? Are the explanations somewhere else?

    Thanks!

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    I recently took a PT untimed and got a 170. I am looking to meet anyone living in Seoul to meet and talk about the LSAT and maybe deal with whatever we can. I know how to approach and study for the test now but we can maybe meet and talk about what we can do to improve. I think essentially it is productive to meet offline and talk about this. We can meet at Wing Study Café at Exit 9 of Gangnam station. They charge 1,900 KRW per hour for each person. In other words, if we meet for three hours, the cost would be 5,700 KRW per person. I can also tutor for free if anyone is just starting and want to learn the basics of the LSAT. If we meet for a tutoring, we would divide the cost of using the study café 1/n. In other words, no need to pay me anything other than the fee for using the study café for yourself. Please send me an inbox. Thanks!

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    Next Session: TBA

    This is a study group open to all students of all levels of ability and experience. It is focused primarily on mutual accountability and staying focused. There is no need to join at start time or stay to the end. This Group is here to work for you, in whatever capacity you are able to benefit from it.

    Most study groups are about 90% social and 10% actual work. Y'all know how it goes. And those study groups are really valuable and important. I highly recommend being a part of one. This Group, however, is for staying focused, grinding it out, and taking care of business. It's about accountability rather than participation. We will make a bit of space for breaks and camaraderie, but the main thing is to come together, put our heads down, and get our work done.

    We'll have regular meetings on Sunday afternoons, but I'll also go live at times throughout the week, so if you're studying (or trying to) and you see that the Group is live, please feel welcome to join!

    Rules and Formatting:

    The Lobby

  • Participants will enter into the Study Stream in the Lobby.

  • Participants may access The Common Room and Study Rooms through the Lobby.

  • Mics may be unmuted in The Lobby.

  • Social Breaks may be taken in The Lobby.

  • Social Breaks should not be taken with unreasonable frequency or for unreasonable durations.

    • The Common Room

  • Video must be turned on. This is the whole concept of a Study Stream. If your video is off, you are not streaming. If you are not streaming, you will not feel the same degree of accountability.

  • Mics must be muted.

  • Messaging should be used for any communications.

  • Messaging should not be used for "chatting."

  • Participants must be actively studying.

    • Study Rooms

  • Invites to a Study Room should be made through chat.

  • Invites to a Study Room should include a citation to the material to be discussed and a comment on why it will be under discussion.

  • Topics in study rooms should be specific. The Lobby is the better place for general, non-specific discussions. Study Room discussions should be anchored either to specific questions or else to some particular outcome of performance like timing reports or other work product.

  • Zoom dynamics make 1-on-1 discussions preferred here, but larger groups are okay so long as each participant is able to engage productively.

  • Participants need not feel any pressure to participate in another's Study Room discussion. Sometimes when proposed, these will not form up, and that is okay.

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    Perhaps this question has already been asked; however, I just wanted to see what people have to say about it. I am autistic; I was diagnosed shortly after my graduation. I have been interested in the career of Haley Moss, an autistic attorney from Florida. Anyway, I'm just wondering if my autism diagnosis has the potential to give me a boost in law admissions, especially to the t-14?

    I would also like to point out that I am a non-traditional white male applicant, who graduated in 2014. I'm essentially wondering if I can use this in a diversity statement or not. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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    HELP PLEASE!

    I took my first official LSAT in October and I definitely did not do as good as I knew I could've. I was super nervous and I blacked out at the second section and I felt so disappointed in myself that I low-key gave up on the other sections, prompting me to get a score of 152. I'm going to take it again in January and hopefully I won't be as nervous and really be able to use my brain, knowledge, and skills I've learned for the past 8 months of studying.

    SO, what should I do, should I cancel my 152 or keep it? I want to go to USC Gould and I know the LSAT range is a lot higher than what I got, but I know the next time I take it I'm giving it my all and not second-guessing myself as much as I did. So what do you guys suggest?

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