I have been studying LG consistently for the past five months. I finished the entire LG core curriculum, foolproofing every single game along the way. I have also foolproofed about 6 LG sections. I always watch explanation videos after doing games and repeat the game until perfect. I also feel comfortable with the LG foundations - on blind review I consistently get -0 to -1. But on fresh timed LG sections, I can barely make it through two games. I am truly not sure what I'm doing wrong and find this to be extremely demoralizing. I would appreciate any advice!

have you ever heard an lsat prepbook describe a negative sufficient condition as a "denial of the antecedent" or an illegal negation described as "affirmation of the consequent"? Ever heard a book mention the latin modus tollens? ponens?

i have not. ever.

the lsat prep books seem to give these concepts different names and designations. However, as i got more interested in conditional logic and formal logic concepts (as a result of lsat studying), i stumbled upon an old book called "A System of Logic" by John Stuart Mill (1843). Mill's book seems to take a look at LSAT logic concepts (provided by the lsat prepbooks ) in a much more formal way, giving the concepts more complicated names, introducing different symbols for propositional statements etc.

my question is this : do the lsat prep books SIMPLIFY mill's book? or is mill's book a more THOROUGH version of the lsat prepbooks? furthermore, could mill's book be used as a complete substitute to some of the lsat prepbooks, helping students save money on prepbooks and ultimately providing a better logical foundation than the prepbooks could provide anyway?

let me know what you think, thanks.

I read somewhere that some law schools average all LSAT scores instead of taking the highest one, but I thought that was old. Does anyone know if any still do?

#help

I was wondering if anyone had a mnemonic they like to use to help remember which indicators belong to each group?

I was just wondering...aside from stellar GPA and LSAT, if law schools like Yale Harvard Stanford and Columbia would consider the workload of each semester...? Like how many units you have taken. I am asking this because I took extremely low units in some semesters where I was affected negatively by a car accident.

Hi,

I am confused that is "not" itself a 4th group reasoning indicator or has it to be paired up with both as "Not both" to be a 4th group indicator.

Thank you,

I appreciate your help

Why did this happen???

Feeling grateful for this fantastic resource. Blind review, wrong answer journal, drill old question sets until you get them perfect in under time. These aren't just buzzwords and sayings--they won the day for me. Phew--feeling relief. Time for donuts and big chilling time.

(technically got a 164 on the diagnostic but I had already done the LG section on that PT and blind reviewed it on another platform, my next test where I went in fully blind was a 159)

Hello, looking to help some people struggling to achieve their goals for the LR section. Message me!

Really need some help here. I chose D and felt pretty strong about it and it turns out its B. I usually have an inkling on this but I don't see it at all. Thought it was statistical/actual issue.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Hi everyone! I need some advice/hacks on identifying necessary assumptions for weakening and strengthening questions. I have been stuck on these two sections for a few weeks now. I got so frustrated that I had to go to a different section because they have been holding up my progress. I am really struggling to come up with the assumptions myself. It's like when I ask myself what is the assumption, my brain freezes. Is there something that you've done to help make it click for you? Or could someone explain it to me like I'm 5? haha

#help

Hey everyone, so I just got my January 2023 lsat score back and it's one point lower than my current highest score. I have taken the test 3 times very spread out over the years as I've navigated being a student/working throughout my studying. My highest current score is 156 (June 2021), and on my most recent test, I scored 155 (January 2023). Any advice would be so helpful as I really don't know what to do!! I really wish I had seen more progress over the years as I was practice testing in low-mid 160s prior to my January test. Should I cancel or is one point not worth a cancellation showing up on my record?

I received a 157 on Nov Lsat and a 156 on Jan Lsat.

Should I cancel my jan Lsat grade or keep it?

Am I allowed to chew gum during the exam? Is it at the discretion of the proctor?

I wouldn’t have any gum containers on the table ofc, just some in my mouth when the exam starts.

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Just got my January LSAT results back, and unfortunately I performed the worst I ever have on a test. This was my first official LSAT however I've been studying and PTing for the past 8 months, so I know for a fact that it is not an accurate reflection of my potential, or even close to my average PT scores. I'm debating on cancelling since I already purchased the score preview, however, I'm not too sure whether it is a good idea to cancel vs not to cancel since this is my first official test. I'm not applying til next cycle so I'm wondering how will this affect my application when I do go to apply?

Hi 7Sagers,

I was hoping to get some help with J.Y's reasoning in one of the explanations videos. According to J.Y., the statement "as many people consume caffeine as consume any one of the other addictive psychoactive substances" means that the number of people who consume caffeine is equal to or greater than the number of people who consume other addictive psychoactive substances. I just don't see how that makes sense. For me, it would make sense to say that:

"the number of people who consume caffeine **is equal to ** the number of people who consume other addictive psychoactive substances.

Any thoughts? Or other ways to conceptualize this statement?

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Hi everyone,

this is my first time posting in this community. I won't go into my life story, so I'll just get right into the question. My goal is to earn at least a 170-172 on the LSAT and I have roughly a year of studying for this test, using 7sage but also supplementing my studying with the LSAT Trainer and the Powerscore Bibles. I just started the 7sage core curriculum and I've started to become a bit discouraged, specifically on the Main Point/Main Conclusion questions/explanations, as I'm getting almost all of them wrong. This has made me believe that I may be being unrealistic in my goal of earning such a high score on the LSAT. I understand the average LSAT score is around a 152 but unfortunately with my low GPA (3.23) I simply can't afford to get a merely average score, especially since my goal is to attend a reputable, highly ranked law school (not necessarily T14). Any advice is appreciated!

Hi everyone!

I have been using 7Sage for the past 2 months I feel as though I have improved with all of the syllabus curriculum so far. However, I find myself REALLY struggling with higher difficulty weaken/flaw questions. I really need help or tips as I feel stuck even with the materials currently provided, and I think I need a push to get me past my plateau with these question types!

Thanks and please #help :)

I took the LSAT in June 2022 and hit my target score (ty 7sage), I've been planning on attending law school with the post-9/11 GI bill after serving in the Army for 3 years. Long story short, the application process takes forever and I'm worried about my score expiring before my Army contract is up. Does anyone know if my June 2022 score would be good if I were to matriculate in August 2027? It's more than 5 years but less than 5 full testing years. The 5 testing years for the application cycle that'd lead into 2027 would be: 2026-2027, 2025-2026, 2024-2025, 2023-2024, 2022-2023. But I see on the LSAT website that July 2017 scores seem eligible for current applications which would indicate six testing years including the one coinciding with the application cycle: 2017-2018, 2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021, 2021-2022, 2022-2023. Any guidance would be appreciated.

I just wanted to say thank you to 7Sage and everyone in these discussions for the help throughout my studying which started back in May 22, through my application submitting and everything else. I went from a 154 diagnostic to a 174 actual test, and managed to secure admission to multiple T14 schools. Today I was admitted ED at UVA, so that'll be where I am off to next! Can't recommend 7Sage enough because it wouldn't have happened otherwise!

I just realized that 7sage has an automatic drill building function where you can create drills of LR, RC, or LG and filter by type of question. It tells you how many clean questions you have to draw from for each question type.

My concern: does it draw clean questions from PT's 35+ ??? I don't want to use questions from future PT's I might do, but want to build sets of certain question types and that seems easiest to do with this function.

#help

When answering the prompt, should you introduce the topic as though you are speaking to someone who doesn't know anything about the topic or as a response to a question? In other words, should you introduce the options at the beginning of the essay or just start with the answer?

I took the October 2022 LSAT and did my writing sample for it. I wanted to redo my writing for my January test but I got caught up in turning applications in by February 1st that I forgot to redo it. January scores are released tomorrow and applications are due, I wanted to know if I retook the writing tomorrow before submitting my apps if it would count?

Hello everyone. If Law School 25th percentile is 150 and 50th percentile 154, and my score is 152, that means I am in 50th percentile?