Hi everyone, I am having a hard time staying on track and improving my scores. I would love to have a small group of study partners to keep each other accountable. Taking the OCT 2022 test and most likely Nov as well. Let me know if you would like to join!

Hey guys,

What are your thoughts on score preview? Can law schools see if you cancel your score? I don't know if I want to spend even more money on LSAC stuff! But if it really is beneficial, I think I'll look into it for my October test.

I'm stuck with 150s in timed exams and the early 160s in BR for some months now.

My study method has been this:

Take timed test. Blind review. Review wrong questions. Note reason of getting wrong. Make a list of it.

The very first timed test was in the 140s so it was great to have some increase at first but, I mean, being stuck for a few months is a bit too long.

I would really love some advice from those who experienced a significant score increase.

Any specific tips?

At the beginning of my studying I was testing using PTs from mostly the 50s and 60s. As I'm nearing the October test date and taking more recent exams, my score had been going down - from around 172 consistently to around 168 off-and-on in PTs from the mid-80s. Anybody have any advice on why this might be or how to fix this? It doesn't seem to be any one section that is falling in particular

Hi, I’m taking the October LSAT and I’m looking for a study partner to review LR and RC sections together several times a week. The plan would be that we each do a section before meeting, and then we can go through the section together to discuss any tricky topics or nuances so that we’re able to more effectively solve such problems in the future.

I’m available mornings (8-9AM) and nights (6-9PM) in PT on weekdays, and am flexible on weekends.

I’m currently averaging -1 to -2 on LR and RC and -0 on LG, and aiming to better be able to tackle the really hard problems and be able to more effectively justify and choose between “last two answers”.

Let me know if you’re interested and we can set up a time to go through a section together.

"Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help, there will be no road trip next week."

From the lesson, https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-complex-conditional-translations-4-w-answers/

I'm very confused in here because of the prior rules of mixing group 3 and group 4 conditional indicators. And in this sentence there's a bunch of them.

I understand the "final" necessary condition being /road trip next week. So the first conditional statement written in logic would be /car fixed > /road trip. This part I understand as we are using group 3 logic, negate sufficient. Simple enough.

Now to add the second part, "Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help....."

In this sentence we have two group 3 indicators and one group 4 indicator. What do we do in this situation? In a previous lesson when we run into this situation, we pick one side, follow that group's negation rules, then treat the other "logical indicator" as a negation.

So for example, I want to follow group 3's rule on the indicator "unless". Which is choose a side, make it the sufficient condition, and negate. Okay. Let's pick car fixed.

So this puts me at /car fixed > which cannot happen without Steve's help.....

Now on the necessary side we have a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator in there :DDDD.

What do we do here? If I treat both as a negation which cancels each other out, that turns into /car fixed > Steve's help. Which makes absolutely no sense at all. And even the other way around, /car fixed > /steve's help, which makes so much more sense, it doesn't fit in the final answer. This is because the contrapositive of /car fixed > /steve's help is steve's help > car fixed.

The final answer being /steve's help > /car fixed > /road trip. The contrapositive being road trip > car fixed > steve's help.

Help me please~~~

I unfortunately missed the webinar (didn’t see it was eastern time, sigh). Would anyone be willing to message me what I missed? I would appreciate it greatly!

I am finishing up the logical reasoning curriculum and plan to practice test just the logical reasoning section for now, until I get through the rest of the Curriculum. How many should I be getting wrong if I want to aim for a 160? I know it also depends on what I get on the other sections, but just a general idea would be nice.

Hi,

I took a diagnostic about 3 weeks ago and scored a 157. Since then I've taken maybe 6-7 tests and have been scoring around 170 on the last few without doing any actual studying, just glancing at why I got questions wrong and particularly emphasizing the LG section because that's what I struggled with most on my diagnostic. I'm not trying to brag or anything but I want to know realistically what it takes to get from high 160's/low 170's to consistent high 170's. Also I have over a year to study until I'll be applying to law schools.

Thanks

Does anyone know how to get back into the room? I was having audio issues and after installing Adobe it keeps saying User Limit Exceeded. Anyone know how to contact powerscore asap?

Hey guys, I studied and took LSAT last year when LSAT-Flex was still in effect. I'm retaking it this year and learnt that LSAT now has four sections, three plus an experimental one. I wanna ask whats the best way to simulate this kind of tests when PTing— do u guys do three sections or four sections? Is doing three sections more reflective of your actual score?

Would it be a good idea to attack questions 15 and up first in a section, then go back to 1-14 after? Burnout is real for me as I work through the section so this method might help. Thoughts?

I had a look at this to see at what point harder questions might start showing up

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lr_individual-question-difficulty

Happy Wednesday, everyone! This week, our newsletter goes through what 'sufficient' and 'necessary' actually mean, and how to use that to improve your Lawgic skills. You can take a look here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/understanding-sufficient-and-necessary

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Hello everyone. I’m looking for some advice as I’m honestly panicking now. I took PT83 today and I had heard that PTs in the 80s were much more difficult. The LG section wasn’t bad but I ran out of time and got -8. The RC was ok and I also got -8 which is around my average. Now LR… I had been averaging -8/9 and got destroyed with a -15. Even worse, 7Sage classified this LR section as a 2 star difficulty section as a whole. I’m signed up for the October and LSAT and feel completely lost now. I thought I was finally improving LR but after hearing how the current LSATs are much like the PTs in the 80s I’m really worried. -15 in LR is abysmal especially in what 7sage considers to be a 2 star (easier) section. On BR, I got an extra 6 questions correct bringing my BR score to -9 (which is still bad) but definitely not -15. Where do I go from here? I feel like all hope is lost considering the October LSAT is right there.

I will be applying to UBC, UVic, the University of Calgary, the University of Alberta, and Dalhousie and will be writing the LSAT again in November. I already have an LSAT score on file, though it is about 7 points lower than my goal score.

Should I submit my applications prior to the November LSAT, to potentially be reviewed with my current LSAT score, or should I wait until after I write the LSAT again? Does it matter?

Thank you!

Is there a specific section in the CC that teaches diagraming? I can do brain gymnastics pretty well but conditional diagramming isn't my thing. Any help will be appreciated.

Is there a specific format for a Resume to law school? I sent mine to my college career services for a final review and it was not helpful since it revolved around applying to jobs. The schools I will be applying for just say list all experience not too exceed 3 pages which is vague.

Hello,

I am planning on taking the January LSAT (maybe even the November test) and was hoping to gather some suggestions on how to approach prep testing. I am striving for a 170+ score.

I am finished with the core curriculum and my study schedule is as follows:

Monday-Thursday: At least 3 hours of study time daily (enough time set aside in the mornings to do a prep test)

Friday-Sunday: At least 5 hours of study time daily

Here are some of my thoughts/concerns:

I am looking to get a 170+ on the LSAT so I want to be as rigorous as I can be with my prep; however, I understand the test has gone through some changes over the years and would rather not focus too much of my efforts on material that is unlikely to help with solidifying a top score in the current LSAT era. What resources are out there that help guide current LSAT preppers to material that has been more prevalent on current tests vs material that is antiquated/unrepresentative of the current tests?

On the other hand, I am worried that if I focus too much of my efforts on the newer prep tests I will be eliminating valuable opportunities to take them closer to test day to have a better feel for the current test and a rough idea of where I stand to land score-wise.

I'm also thinking I'd like to add the November test to my plan just so that I have two opportunities to get a top score for this admissions cycle. If I do, I have to sign up by the 29th of this month and would have about 8 weeks to run through prep tests prior to exam day. I realize I will be better prepared come January, but also acknowledge that anything can happen come test day and would rather not have all of my eggs in one basket.

Anyone who has been prepping at or scored an actual 170+ on the LSAT: What prep testing "technique" was successful for you?

Please feel free to elaborate beyond what I have outlined above and to freely riff on anything additional you think might be helpful to others who find this thread.

All the best and good luck!

Brian

Hi, I just learned that LSAC requires all grades to be reported, including any summer courses taken in other colleges. I transferred schools after my freshman year, and in my second semester, I had a professor give me a C- in a class. However, when I transferred, that course was not credited at the school I transferred to. Will LSAC take that C- course into account for my GPA even though I was never given credit for that? Or can I make a case to appeal to LSAC if they do calculate that grade into my GPA since I was never given the credit for it?

My LSAT journey is just about complete. I've been studying for this test since May of 2021 and I'm nearly at the end. Pending a higher score on the September LSAT, I'll be applying this fall with a 168 which I received on the August 2022 LSAT. I could not have gotten this score without 7Sage and I just wanted to take a moment to thank J.Y. and the entire team at 7Sage for putting together an absolutely phenomenal product for the public. I really don't know what I would've done without the hundreds of in-depth question breakdowns by J.Y. (or his sense of humor to keep things light). For those of you still studying, keep pushing forward. Use every wrong answer as a learning opportunity and don't let this test break your spirit. If anyone needs anything or specifics on how I studied, feel free to reach out.

Just finished an LG set and wanted to review, but the explanation videos won't play. The rest of the site seems to be working fine and so does my wifi, so just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks!

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Does every real test have a comparative passage? I cannot seem to recall

In PT12.S2.Game 3, we have a rule that goes:

Mendel does not buy any kind of food that Nastassia buys.

JY, in his explanation video, drew the Lawgic as:

M --> /N

Why is it not /M --> N or N --> /M

Could you please help?

I'm thinking of applying to Columbia ED. My GPA is higher than their 75th percentile and I'm planning on taking the LSAT in October, but I've been scoring slightly below their 25th percentile (high 160s) on PTs. Would it be worth giving ED a shot?