I don't get how this is the right answer. I'm aware the color red usually means stop and the color yellow usually means yield but why should I need to assume outside information like that to get this answer correct?

How am I supposed to know this from just the stimulus. Am I missing something?

Does anyone know if taking the LSAT is better than getting the GRE for admissions and scholarships? Or does it not matter? If you are trying to go for PhD/JD is it better to just take the GRE and apply or should you also take the LSAT?

https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/podcast-episode-91-the-august-2021-lsat-review/

Hi all! I am looking to find some people who want to be part of a small study group (about 6) for the November LSAT. I am thinking about meeting three times a week for now (Sundays - Logic Games, Tuesdays - Reading Comp, and Thursdays - Logical Reasoning) and drilling a different section of a practice test before each meeting. Seeing/hearing how other people break down difficult questions I got wrong is super beneficial to me (and maybe you!). Let me know if you can meet on these days sometime between 4pm to 8pm and want to join!

I think I'm stressing myself out too much about this tbh but need some opinions.

I started working at a law office mid june and its great experience but STRESSFUL. I'm planning on applying in late oct which would give me roughly 4 months with the office.... which is fine on a resume as a recent grad but.... would it be great on a recommendation? moreover would it look BAD to not have a recommendation? would it be something to write in the addendum... on I didn't ask because I'd only been there four months?

I'm also planning on getting a LOR from the head of my program and a research advisor - but I think im stressing out too much about having my boss write me one. I know I could get three strong letters of recommendations from professors/research advisors/various university people...

Let me know if you have an opinion please!!

Hello Everyone,

I understand that the new LSAT is only scoring three sections with the 4th section being experimental. My question is, lets say I receive two RC sections, would that mean that one RC section is experimental or could both RC sections be scored and either a LG or LR is experimental? Thank you!

I don't understand how E is the right answer over D. I eliminated the answer choice E because she claimed to be an insurance adjuster and didn't provide proof. How is claiming to be anything providing enough proof of being a government official? If the answer choice said the insurance adjuster provided some kind of proof I would have opted for it but ended up picking D because the government official provided proof, and I don't consider being evasive necessarily lying.

Hey yall! So my testing experience went so bad to the point that I cried when testing was done. I filed my complaint and luckily they offered me a retest next week. Anything I should be concerned about for next week's test?

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on getting out of a plateau? Timed PT score is mid-high 150's, BR is usually low 160's. While I'm doing timed PT's, followed by BR and Full Review but I'm not seeing any numerical improvement (however, I do feel like I'm learning something from each test I take). The main sections I struggle with are LR and RC (esp with timing). Is this normal and how do I start seeing an actual improvement in my score? I'm trying to get in the high 160's (at least) for the October LSAT. Thanks all!!

Hi everyone,

I am planning to take the LSAT in October. My goal score is 165. I’ve been scoring consistently in the mid 150s and sometimes will score a 158/159. I haven’t been able to crack 160.

Logic games is my worst section by far. Reading comprehension fluctuates. And LR is typically -4/-5. Any advice? It would be greatly appreciated.

Does anyone have an individual that they would recommend for the purposes of aiding the application process? I honestly never thought about looking into such a service, but after hearing about an experience my friend had with one, it seems very, very worthwhile. Having some experienced eyes look through my application sounds quite ideal. Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated, thank you!

Is November LSAT too late for Fall 2022 admissions since scores are probably released in late November-December?

I would like to have 3-8 points score increase compared to my June Flex.

Should I take October, November, or both?

Context: I have already taken the LSAT three times with 2 tests taken back in 2018. Thank you for the help.

Hi everyone!

When can I start my applications? I don't want to actually send them out until next fall (I want to matriculate in fall of 2023), but I want them started ASAP. Do I have to wait until my cycle or what? How does all of that work?

Thank you!

I just took the LR sections on PT 65 today. For both sections, I seem to run out of time. The first section with 25 questions, I had 5 minutes left to answer the last 5 questions. I got 17/25 right for that section. The second section with 26 sections, I had 5 minutes left to answer the last 6 questions. I got 20/26 for that section.

I mostly get Qs 1-(17-20) right with 2-3 errors in those questions.

Then towards the end of the section Qs 17-26, I get half/most of them wrong.

For the first 10 Qs, for each sections, I had 22-23 minutes remaining.

I'm not sure where to focus my studying so that I can improve. Tips?

Like many if not most (all?) of you, I heard many times about how the LSAT isn't really useful in law school, just a rough predictor of 1L grades, you just have to do it to get in, etc.

That is a fucking lie.

I've lost count of how many times I've thought or written in my notes this week, "oh, just like the LSAT" particularly when it comes to translating dense material, and critically examining the reasoning behind decisions. Not only is it not irrelevant, I would say a great deal of it is directly applicable. Unless my school is some weird radical outlier (narrator: its not) expect to use the skills you're honing now. Hopefully that motivates you to put the time in and learn this stuff the right way. It'll not only help your score and therefore your admissions outcomes, but also your potential understanding of the material, and ability to examine and destroy hypotheticals and pick apart issues, therefore your test scores, therefore your grades, therefore your job outcomes...

Not that you can't rock law school without having learned this stuff previously, but damn its so much of the same skills. Maybe that we believe these skills don't translate over says more about the type of prep many people/companies push, or why the test seems so difficult to us.

Hi all,

Is there a place to find my CAS GPA on LSAC's website/instead of calculating it myself? They have all my transcripts

Hi guys - I had a nightmare experience with Proctor U and was just reached out by LSAC to potentially sign up for a retake of the August exam.

For anyone that has taken a retake, does this retake count as an additional attempt? For example, the August exam I took on the 16th was the 2nd time I’ve taken the exam. If I am to take a retake, would this count as my 3rd or will it still remain my 2nd attempt?

Thank you all for your help. Best of luck studying for everyone!

Hi everyone,

My name is Ken Kim. Let me briefly introduce myself. I used to attend Northeastern University School of Pharmacy in Boston then transferred to the University of Utah Asia Campus in Songdo, Incheon. I graduated from the school in 2018 with a bachelor's degree in communication. I, then, enrolled at Johns Hopkins University Advanced Academic Program for my master's degree in communication. I graduated from the said school in 2021 and am currently committed full-time studying for the LSAT while doing a part-time tutoring for international students. I recently moved to Gangnam from Songdo, Incheon and am looking for friends to study with me at Gangnam Station. We can study at the Wing Study Cafe, which is literally right next to Exit 9 of Gangnam Station. The rate for using the study cafe per person is 1,700 KRW for each hour. We can meet up with up to four people due to the government restriction. I am currently doing the game section of the 7Sage CC. Please reply to this thread or send me a DM, and we can immediately get started with studying for the LSAT.

Hey everyone,

I just took my first practice test since my diagnostic and I'm a little disappointed. My diagnostic was a 143 with 150 BR and first PT after finishing the curriculum was a 147 with a 157 BR. Time constraints are really hurting me and I could use some advice on how to be faster/more efficient during the test.

Also, LG under the time constraint absolutely wrecked me (-13 during time constraint with -3 BR). I'm registered for the October exam but now I'm a little hesitant considering I'm a little over a month away from the test date.

Let me know what y'all think!

if anyone wants to study for the LSAT, please let me know.

Hey y'all, I need some PS guidance. How important is it for me to talk about why I want to go to law school when I don't have any legal experience on my resume? I wasn't intending to center my PS around this topic, but I recently heard it's recommended for those that don't have such experience.

For context, I was instead intending to talk about learning something new/how this would be transferable to law school.

A --> B

-B --> -A

Is the following possible (could be true)?

-B --> -A --s-- B

So basically, is it a possibility (could be true) for the necessary condition to sometimes be the logical opposite of the sufficient condition?

Sorry if this seems stupid or even not pertinent to the lsat, but I'd really like to know.

Or maybe a better to ask this(?):

If -B --> -A, then is -B --> -A AND B necessarily false?

I hope I'm making sense :/

Edit:

I guess "sometimes" would not fit because of the 100% possibility sometimes implies. So I guess -B --> -A --x--> B could be true. ( --x--> meaning not necessarily, aka 0-99 % possibility)

do you consider the January LSAT too late to apply for that cycle?

Hello dear community,

first of all, besides the high-quality content 7sage provides, I'd like to express my admiration for the positivity among the users on this platform, both in the discussion forum as well as in the comments etc. Definitely healthier to seek out for advice here compared to some other platforms (cough ... reddit ... cough).

My issue can be summarized into the following phrase: I have the suspicion that I am heading to LSAT-burnout.

In March, I quitted my previous job, got a new one in April and pushed my start date back to October in order to invest 5 months in the preparation for my applications for JD/MBA joint degree programs (which included LSAT, essays and some other stuff).

I've invested the vast majority of this time so far in the LSAT, started off with the core curriculum and untimed psets, and have done 16 timed PT's so far (including full review), averaging at 173 (took PT June07, 36, 37, 38, 39, 62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 80, 79, in that order). In parallel, I aim to read 15-20 articles of The Economist per week to practice understanding passages via the low resolution memory, and elongate & go over an vocab Excel-list consisting meanwhile of 800+ words (since I'm a non-native speaker and RC has been by far my weakest section).

Today I took PT 79, and had to realize that in sections 2-4 my brain was just running on auto-pilot mode, my mind was not 100% inside the test, I felt tired and exhausted. To my surprise, as opposed to the last 4 tests, my RC score wasn't that bad (-2) and that pushed the score up to 175 (seriously, don't ask me how this happened - I'll need to review the test, honestly I thought I totally, totally bombed RC this time). I believe that in the last 5-6 PTs I also felt kind of tired, but today it was really worse... I mean during the last section I even had impetus to just stand up and walk around rather than read even one more LR stimulus. For the last couple days, I also feel slower even when it comes to reviewing tests, and procrastinate a lot more compared to when I started...

I know, the obvious advice would be "take some days off". However, following worries keep me back from this:

I consciously chose to start later at my new firm (thereby creating opportunity costs in form of lost salary) for the LSAT. Therefore, I kind of tend to feel guilty every moment I do not do anything for the LSAT, and other people in my age work full-time.

I already was involved in LSAT prep (by far not full-time though) from September 2019 to April 2020, but did not really take it seriously and just kept burning PTs without reviewing them and without taking a rigorous preparation course. I decided to take these months off and do it correctly this time, and this decision increases the pressure I impose to myself to get a 175+ even more, since not achieving this would be a waste of my time (and maybe kind of an indication that my mental capabilities are simply not enough to get into Harvard, Yale or Stanford Law School).

I am not sure whether it is burnout or problems with sleep. For some time, I've been having issues with falling asleep at night, with the result that I've rarely gained sleep of 7+ hours. Therefore, in case it is sleep issues and not burnout, I'm afraid that this break will be unnecessary and won't do anything to face the potential root-cause of the problem.

As mentioned before, I am a non-native speaker. On top of that, I've never really been intrinsically motivated to read in my leisure time (be it for the sake of it, or in order to learn about what's happening in the world etc.). Therefore, I have the dilemma, in case I do decide to take a break, whether I should keep reading The Economist or not. On the one hand, RC is my weakest section and I feel like I need to improve on it and time is really running against me, therefore, ideally, I would have to utilize every single free second to improve my reading skills in English. On the other hand, investing time in an activity that I do not intrinsically perceive as "fun" would not really fulfill the purpose of taking a break...

That said, I would really appreciate it if you could give some answers to the following questions:

Does the above sound like LSAT burnout?

Have you ever had the above thoughts? If so, how did you cope with them?

What do you think is the best way to get into the routine of a fixed sleeping schedule (e.g. go to bed before midnight and wake up before 8 am)? For some time, I managed to go to bed before or around midnight, fall asleep relatively quickly and wake up at 8.30-9 am, but meanwhile I went back to the vicious cycle of not being able to go to bed before 1 am, staying in bed without being able to fall asleep for at least 2 hours, waking up at 9.30 am, being tired for the rest of the day though paradoxically fully energized at night... and so on. Do you have some tips for breaking that cycle for a longer time period?

Thanks in advance guys! As I said, I really appreciate the positivity of the 7sage community and try to give my advice wherever and whenever I can as well :) Excited to read your comments before going to the final stage of taking PT 82-90.

Hey y’all, I had something really strange happen to me and I’m wondering if this happened to someone else. I faced “connectivity issues” when I took the LSAT flex so I called the LSAC immediately after to request a makeup test that week - an option I only learned existed through this forum (their website says nothing about it). I called again on the makeup test day to ask why my request was denied and I was told on the phone by an LSAC representative that I was ineligible for a makeup because one of the sections on the makeup test was the exact same one I had on the test I took. I thought it was really odd that a makeup test would have a repeated section as this obviously denies some test takers the chance to sit for it should things go awry during the test. Has anyone else been told this by LSAC? What do you know about the eligibility criteria for a makeup test? The lack of transparency is deeply concerning.