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Hi, could someone please help explain what exactly does the stimulus here "for how many of the individuals can it be exactly determined where his or her team places" really ask?

I though it asked those individuals whose specific teams can be determine. But by this read, only S's team is determined while the second-placed and third-placed teams still can't be determined.

I would really appreciate if someone can help. Thanks for your time.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-53-section-2-game-4/

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Took two PT's: PT4 & PT5. Both as Flex.

On PT4 I got -8 overall and received a total score of 169.

On PT5 I got -11 overall and received a score of 170.

I figure some of this would be due to weighting of questions with some tests being harder than others, which is I believe why we don't use 'raw scores', but this still seems kind of off? Is that degree of variation in scoring that common?

Mainly concerned because I am shooting for 170+ and had kind of been working on the assumption that I need to be dropping less than 10 questions to ensure that - generally this seems to be the case in most PT's I have done. Clearly that was a flaw in my reasoning!

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Last comment monday, sep 27 2021

Why BU?

I am applying ED to Boston University through the distinguished scholars program, which would grant me a full scholarship if I am admitted. I am wondering if I should still write a why BU essay or if it is unnecessary since I'm applying ED?

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For those who have paper-and-pencil accommodations...do the exams come stapled or as separately unattached pages? Can someone please briefly describe the process of this format without violating security policies? I am simply trying to get a feel for what to expect on test day as well as recreating test conditions as accurately as possible while taking PTs. Thank you for any information shared.

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Last comment monday, sep 27 2021

RC timing

Folks,

I'm at the point where I understand the RC...I'm not doing too bad at -4 or -5 if I have 40-44 minutes. But unfortunately we only get 35 minutes, so my question is: How do I close this gap?

When I do the timed version, I either relax and miss a whole passage or rush and miss 10-13...that's a pretty big delta.

Anyone got any advice?

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Hi folks

Does anyone have any tips for reading in a more focused manner on a computer screen for RC passages? Does anyone track the lines with their finger on the screen? Any idea if that should be a problem for during the actual exam?

Any tips would be much appreciated!

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Hi everyone,

Given November 2021 LSAT will be administered in four sections, including an experimental-unscored one, do you think it's good idea to do Prep tests simulating LSAT-Flex on 7Sage? (Because we don't know whether the experimental section will be in LR)

Or, continuing to drill with four section format is still better?

I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Thanks!

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Hey everyone,

As you all know, applications for Fall '22 have opened in the beginning of September. I plan on taking my LSAT in November and sending in my applications once I receive the score. However, is it possible to send in the application without my LSAT score? If its possible, is this recommended? What do you guys think? Should I wait for my LSAT score before sending in my applications or go ahead and submit the applications now and my LSAT score will automatically be sent when I take it.

Ty all!

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Hello everyone, I'm wondering if I should re-procure letters of recommendation for the up-coming cycle. I applied extremely late last cycle (like mid-post march), and I plan on re-applying this year. Would you recommend asking for new letters of recommendation, or will my letters from earlier this year be sufficient?

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Dear all,

Might anyone have advice on sitting for the October LSAT in Asia at a timeslot outside the timings offered?

The current timings take place from 11pm to 5.30am, which are probably the most unearthly hours to take a test.

I've contacted LSAC but they've asked me to reach out to ProctorU instead. Was thinking of asking them on Monday, but can anyone share their experiences and suggestions on what might be done?

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Last comment saturday, sep 25 2021

Can I see my score?

So I wrote the LSAT for the first time in June and cancelled my score because I scored way lower than I expected. I'm currently registered for the October LSAT and my score is kind of where I want it. I'm kind of stressed about taking the test because I don't know if I can see my score and cancel it if I don't like it. Is that just something they offer for your first test? Part of me wants to move my test to November but another part of me thinks I'm just freaking out because of my anxiety. If I can see my score, I'm thinking of registering for the November test and then deciding whether or not I want to write it after viewing my score. Otherwise I might just move it to November. Help.

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Last comment saturday, sep 25 2021

A Guide on RC Improvement

RC success is a function of knowing what to read for and a healthy balance of focus and confidence. Without confidence, it is hard to really focus. Knowing what to read for helps to build confidence, which increases your willingness and ability to focus.

I will briefly discuss how you can practice knowing what to read for below. This is difficult at first, but gets easier with repetition- the more you do it, the faster and more accurate you become.

First, why RC? Why does LSAC care to test us on RC and what do they really want us to do?

In law school, we will be reading tons of cases written by judges. It will be our job to discern the main point of the case, determine what the judge really thinks, and how they build their argument. Once we have this understanding, we can (with the help and insights of professors) analyze the strength of the argument and think about its implications.

The LSAT tests our ability to identify the main point or thrust of an argument, discern the authors’s view, and be able to see the author’s logical progression to the main point or conclusion, in other words to map the blueprint of the argument.

The questions are almost all based around these elements. By reading with the intent of figuring these things out before the questions, the questions fly by. This is analogous to making up front inferences during Logic Games.

RC is hard because we are not used to reading and thinking in this manner. Most of the things we read, we just skim.

So here is a template to fill out when you read RC. Filling this out yourself will get you in the habit of consciously thinking about the things LSAC requires of you. The more you do this, the better your ability will become. After writing these things out many times, you will eventually be able to hold these elements in your mind. This is how comfort, speed, and accuracy is built. So focus on filling this template out untimed at first. Then hit the questions. During the questions, you will find that you have thought about many of the concepts asked if you already.

So here is the template:

Paragraph #1 Low Resolution Summary:

Author’s separate paragraphs to signal a shift in ideas. Each paragraph is the reporting of a different idea. We want to identify what that idea is.

We are looking to summarize the takeaway from the paragraph. This will show us 3 or 4 different ideas. Then we take these ideas and examine how they relate. The relationships of the paragraphs come together to allow us to see the takeaway of the whole thing.

P2:

P3:

P4:

Main Point? - What does the author want you to take away from this? What are they trying to argue, show, or tell you about?

Author’s tone? - Where do they show their opinion and what is it? Pay close attention to when the author is speaking versus when they are telling you about the opinions of others. Do not conflate the 2!

Argument Structure?-

How does each paragraph relate to one another? Use your low res summaries to tell a story. For example: Paragraph 1 tells us about a strange phenomenon, Paragraph 2 then gives us Jones explanation for the phenomenon, Paragraph 3 introduces Kate and she offers a different explanation for the phenomenon, Paragraph 4 ends with the author telling us why they think Kate’s explanation is better than Jones’.

Analyzing an RC passage and doing this is time consuming and even draining- for harder passages it will take me sometimes 1.5 hours to fully feel like I have a full understanding of the passage. This is normal, take your time and shoot for quality of training over quantity. Knowing deep down that you have a true understanding of the passage is how you develop confidence! Like I said earlier, this process will start out slow and painful, but it will pay off if you stick with it.

Once you have completed the template, and feel comfortable with it, you are ready to hit the questions.

More so than LR, you need to take your time to fully understand the question stems, or what is being asked if you. For example, in LR a stem may ask you which AC most strengthens the argument. You can read this and know your task in about 2 seconds because you have seen hundreds of these. However, an RC stem is more likely to be unique, specific, and its meaning may turn on a single word. So it is important to take your time with stems.

Use Pre Phrasing! After reading the stem, answer the question in your own words. Think about what a credited answer choice might be. For example, if the question asks you what an author would most likely agree with, think about what you know about the author’s opinion. This type of conscious thought before looking at answer choices will make you less prone to traps and more efficient. It also forces you to full understand the question stem. I found that many of my mistakes were a product of not understanding the task at hand.

Steps:

1.Fill out template untimed (this will take forever at first)

2. Analyze the questions. Read the stem and pre phrase before looking at answer choices. Write out justifications for every answer choice, right or wrong.

3. Take a break, reset your brain, repeat

4. Check answers/grade

5. Over time this will become easier and you can try doing 2 passages in one sitting

6. Once you can do 2 passages in one sitting and go -1 or -0 per passage, you are ready to add in timing

7. Complete a 35 minute strictly timed RC section. Pick the 2 passages you found most difficult and complete the template and question justifications, untimed.

8. Keep an excel sheet tracking your results, timing, and takeaways. Before you take a timed section, revisit this sheet and set intentions/ goals going into the section.

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Last comment saturday, sep 25 2021

GPA Addendum help :)

so i took some community college classes while in high school many years ago and did well on all except one class where i got a C because my aunt was having breast cancer surgery the week the final project was due so i wasn't able to finish it (i emailed the professor asking for an extension but she didn't allow one, and i emailed her years later saying it would affect my law school chances and she refused to retroactively withdraw the grade) and since i wasn't in college yet i didn't know what an "incomplete" was so i just took the L... but now its dropping my LSAC GPA by 0.04. how do i write about this in the addendum? i was thinking of just explaining the situation above but should i also write what my GPA without it would be since it's so much better? thanks for the help :)) and good luck to everyone else applying!!!!

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Last comment saturday, sep 25 2021

Inconsistency on RC

Hey everyone,

My PT scores have been varying wildly from low 160s to low 170s, with pretty much all of the variation coming from RC. I consistently get between -2 to -4 on LG and LR, but my RC scores vary from -2 to -10. It seems to have less to do with the question types and more to do with if I happen to be able to retain focus while reading the passages (which appears almost arbitrary). If anybody has any advice about how they stay focused on the passages while reading, I'd be grateful. I try to convince my brain I'm interested in the topics and actively work on a low res summary, but it seems to be hit or mess on whether it's successful.

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Last comment saturday, sep 25 2021

Recommendations?

Hi so I’m currently planning on taking the LSAT in November and plan to retake in January as well and I have already been approved for my accommodations which is great. The only problem is that I originally was doing a different prep course and it started out very well but started to feel like I was wasting my time and not getting anywhere so I stopped that bought a couple of power books and have been reading those. They definitely are helping but I just felt I needed more direction and kept hearing good things about 7Sage so I bought it to give it a shot. I was wondering whether you think it’s best to follow the sage outline or just jump around and play around with the system

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Last comment friday, sep 24 2021

Application

If I upload my transcripts to LSAC, purchase a CAS account, fill out applications etc, and decide to apply next cycle as opposed to this, will I need to repeat this entire effort or only parts of it?

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I have been studying for the LSAT for the past couple of months. I'm looking for someone who's down to take an LR section and talk through questions together. I prefer a West coast person since that would make scheduling sessions easier. Every week we would meet twice (ideally Wednesday/Thursday) mornings. I can do zoom, and if you are in Southern California (SD area), we can also meet in person. PM me if you are serious about making a commitment twice a week and improving our scores together :)

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Last comment friday, sep 24 2021

Re-take

Hi!

I am taking my first test in October and I am currently scoring where I want to score.. but should I register for the November LSAT just in case I don't score in my target? Or should I register for the January one so its not too rushed. I dont want to waste a take.

I live in Canada, so the application is different than in the US. The schools I am applying to still take the January LSAT.

Thanks!

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So, I've always gone about LR in a kind of unstructured way, I've never formally studied for it and reliably go about -2 to -4 since my diagnostic. I don't actively think about LR in a technical way, like trying to identifying premises and conclusions, highlighting stuff, mapping out lawgic, thinking about trigger words and question types etc. I've continued to depend on a formless sort of instinct for what is right and wrong. I'm sure some of these considerations operate at the back of my mind, but it's nothing deliberate. Although this has served me well until now, as the test approaches I feel doubts about the sustainability of this approach. I feel like even if a resource doesn't improve my scoring range, devoting some time to seriously studying LR would salve my fears and firm up my confidence for the test.

I have Powerscore, the Trainer and naturally 7Sage. What I'm curious about is the Loophole. Do you guy's think it's worth buying that getting through before the November LSAT in my situation? Or any other resource with the Nov test in mind? LG is still my weakest section and I've been grinding it for the past month.

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Would it be ok if took the January test for the upcoming August admission? Will I still get a chance at scholarship money? I was scheduled to take the exam next month and apply next month but I don't think I will make the score that I want in that time. Currently I have a 3.8 undergrad GPA and I'm guessing that if I take the test in Nov I will make around a 155. If I take it in January that will give me an extra 2 months to study although not sure how much higher I will make if I wait.

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Hi everyone,

I am interested in applying this cycle (Fall 2022) but not sure if it's too late already to do so? I am just getting started with studying for the LSAT. I work full time (40+ hours a week), and really have free time to study on weekends (Fridays included). Do you think I can still make the cut? Or should I just take my time and plan for next cycle? If you think this cycle is still realistically feasible - when would you recommend I take my LSAT(s)? I think November might be too close.

Thank you for any advice!

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