#help

Hi everyone! I have 2 questions.

1st. In logical reasoning, when the question stem asks for the main point, is that slightly different then it asking for the conclusion? I watched an explanation video for a main point, the question stem said “Which one of the following states the main point of the argument?” And JY said that the main point questions are looking for a summary of the conclusion. Rather, I notice when the question stem ask for us to state the conclusion it will be a more “word-for-word” explicit answer, leaning away from a summary type answer. Is this correct? Or does it depend on other factors?

2nd. Okay. Another question. Is not always the same as sometimes in logic?

Thank you so much.

I look forward to the #help!

I see that the conclusion is based on a resolve the paradox.

But I find that unfair for a MC question because resolving something does not make it the conclusion of a paragraph.

Example:

If I make a paragraph on what really went down on Roswell, the point is asking all the crazy thing. The main summary would be “something weird happened that caused people to look into”.

If I give explanations (aliens, CIA, time travelers, big foot) that doesn’t justify it to say that’s the conclusion. I would say “ummm no, this just means reasons for what is it”. Reasons for what? The mystery (HENCE THE CONCLUSION)

Are resolving paradox's conclusions now for modern LSAT?

The explanatory video glosses over this very quickly. Why is it just assumed that H and M must not be connected? Does it have something to do with the HT not-block?

Any help appreciated; thanks!

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Hey guys,

I wanted to know if a law school would take into account working at a restaurant while pursuing my undergraduate degree ? If this kinda aids my application since it shows that I was multitasking? do you know if they are more lenient if a person worked in their undergrad?

Basically what do you think is more determinative of ones expected score on the LSAT in October. More specifically, Since the October LSAT is 4 sections (1 Each of AR, LR, RC - with 1 test section) - Would it be more indicative to take the FLEX practice exams or take the regular Practice exams with 2 LR sections? My thought process is that if you are especially bad at LR - then only taking 1 would probably help your score. Therefore, practicing with the FLEX would probably give you a more accurate score rather than a 4th graded section.

I understand you still have the 4th section even if it is a test section so as far as getting tired and numb to questions as you go along would impact your score on the actual test etc. Suppose a perfect world where the first three sections on test day are the graded sections and 1LR, 1AR, 1RC - this would potentially be your highest possible score.

So recommendation's?

So LSAC is showing that my transcripts were processed on August 30th but there is still no GPA indicated on my account. How long does it usually take for them to calculate your GPA after receiving your transcripts? I just want to make sure that it usually does take this long and if not I will try and figure it out with them. Thanks for any replies!

I was consistently in the 170-172 range for a while and with the October test just a few weeks away, I've been studying more and doing 2 PTS a day. Today I got two 164s. Bothering me that these lower scores are consistent and that on review I'm seeing that I made stupid mistakes. Any advice on how to deal with this?

Hi! I'm a current PhD student making a transition to law. Anyone want to start a LSAT study group with me? We could set goals, go over questions, review techniques, and keep ourselves accountable on a weekly basis. I'm signed up for October but I'm flexible on my test date since I'm not applying this round. I'm in the Bay Area but the study group will be over Zoom, so everyone is welcome. I'm scoring around 160 on my PTs, and my goal is 170+.

Hi Im taking my test in November and I just got done having an unreliable and disencourging tutor I wanted to know is there anyone that is willing to tutor me on LG because this is my weakest section? thank you!

I'll be taking my first preptest on 7sage tomorrow. Any user tips? I've taken a bunch of preptests on lawhub in the past.

Thanks.

Hi you legends,

Backstory: Cold diagnostic 161 in April. Then my dad almost died of a heart attack. Fortunately he made it through, but I spent May-Aug caring for him/my mom, working full-time, and studying on the side.

Did CC. Got down to -1/3 on LR, -1/2 on RC. Good enough there. Taken 6 PTs so far, have been scoring 168/9.

Sat the Aug LSAT bc in the haze of everything w my dad I forgot to cancel; scored a 165-- low for me.

LG is the problem. I started at like -11, did some of the early problem sets and then sets from PTs 40-63. Got it down to a pretty regular -4. But now things are trending in the wrong direction. For the past 5-10 sets, have been missing more questions... like back up to -7, not finishing sets on time, etc.

A few questions:

What timing strategies do you all use for Logic Games? Unlike RC and LR, I never finish sets early, and rarely even finish with enough time not to have to guess on the last (or, more recently, last 3-4) questions.

Are the LG in the 60s harder, and that's why I'm battling?

Is my regression burnout? (Caring for a sick parent + working more than full time + finishing a book with an academic press + studying for the LSAT has obviously made for quite the year.)

Did anyone have any experience with excellent LG tutoring? I am in my 30s/unmarried so obviously paying for this ~jOuRnEy~ myself, but at this point, I'd be willing to shell out maybe $200 for some excellent private tutoring that really brings my LG score consistently into the -3 range.

Thanks for all your feedback. 7sagers are the sole positive thing about this whole LSAT trash!

I took the LSAT back in September 2017 and completed a writing sample then, so it's four years old. I am taking the LSAT again this October, is it worth it to re-do the writing sample?

Any tips for MSS/Inference questions for RC please.

Especially, when there is a Passage A and Passage B.

Thank you.

Hey all! Any idea if we should be taking the practice test of 4 sections or 3?

If we take it as 4, do all 4 sections get counted towards the score or just 3?

For people who do 3, do you worry you might not have the endurance to do all 4 on test day?

Hi everyone,

I am retaking the test in October. I am currently stuck at 169-170 on my PTs. I am really hoping to get that up to 173+ by the October test. Does anyone have any tips on how to narrow down what to focus on? I get about -3 to -5 on both LR and RC just depends on the test. I am having trouble pin pointing where I go wrong in LR because at this point there's no specific question type that I am having trouble with. I'm finding that with the few questions I do get wrong on LR I'm usually down to 2 answer choices but end up picking the wrong one. It's so frustrating. If anyone has any tips on how to avoid this please let me know!

Also, if anyone has any insight on how to get over this hump and make it to the mid 170s please feel free to share!

I know this question may sound confusing but Im having trouble with knowing the difference with cbt vs mbt questions. When ever I do a could be true question I have a hard time finding my answer because I would mix it up MBT answers and the same for MBT answers I mix them with CBT answers. How can I improve on this to increase my score?

Hi everyone (mainly @ tutors),

I'm currently looking for a tutor primarily for mastering LR and RC. If you're an approved and vetted tutor from 7Sage and have space for a student, please DM / comment!

The LR was difficult on this test I went from -8 to -11 on this test.

As the October test is fast approaching, I have been focusing on what has now become my weakest section, reading comprehension. I miss at best -9 questions, and usually do not finish within the time restraints or end up overlooking details because I am rushing. I would like to reduce this number to at least -7, preferably -5. Does anyone have any tried and true techniques they use tackle the passages? I tried focusing on three passages, but I have seen very inconsistent results with that method (I did score 21/27 one time, probably lucky!)

I feel like 7Sage would have the data on how long it takes perfect scorers to read the passage. I wish they would display this target time, especially given how crucial reading the passage (to understand it) is to going through the questions quickly.

I just finished the CC of the LR and want to further my understanding of the section. I don't think I am ready for timed practice just yet. My thinking of this is to just take the LR portions of old tests, or make my own mixed sets from the Problem Sets, but I've had a problem with the latter (making my own practice tests on 7sage). This was tedious and I couldn't save the practice tests I put together so I see that as a waste of time.

Let me know what you guys think I should do going forward because I could use the advise, thank you in advance.

I am registered for the October LSAT and was wondering if there is any difference between the test depending on which day you take it...I think the options are the 9th, 10th, and 12th.

Was there a pattern on the August LSAT, for example if you take it the first day your experimental section will appear last, or is it just totally random?

And are all of the scored sections of the test the exact same across the different testing days, or are there going to be 3 totally different tests?

Hi everyone, looking for some tutoring here just for LG. I can typically nail the games untimed but need some help getting up to speed since my goal is to master. If you're a tutor or would like to try it out I'd love to hear from you and we can talk about rates! Also any suggestions for tutors are more than welcome (private and group tutoring are both okay). Thanks!!

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I'd like to practice on LawHub to get familiar with the format. Am I able to input those results into 7Sage afterwards?