Hi everyone! I hope everyone’s doing well and working hard towards their LSAT goal. :)

I’m looking for any study buddies or a group of people to help hold accountability. I’ve been trying to study for the LSAT for almost a year now, and I’m not making much headway. I’m really looking to bring my score up to the high 160s (the higher the better, truthfully), and I could use some help going over the material with someone. I work full time on the East coast though, so we’d likely have to meet virtually later in the evening. Please let me know if you’re interested, and I’ll message you privately! Thank you!!

Hi all,

Could anyone who has applied to Berkeley help me out with something? When they ask for extracurriculars and jobs since high school, do they mean EVERY JOB/ACTIVITY? I've been out of high school for 6 years and held a lot of short-duration jobs in college, I don't even remember them all, let alone hours. I also technically a part of more student orgs than I actually ever attended regularly. Basically, I do not want to hunt down every job and club I have ever been marginally attached to unless my admission would be contingent upon it. I have a good resume that has the jobs and clubs that I have actually had an impact on who I am today. I assume they are asking for a big list to put my GPA in context but it seems a little extreme.

Thanks in advance!

Would anyone recommend the Powerscore bibbles for RC? it is by far my worst section and I am writing in October. I am scoring -2/-1 on LG and -4/-5 on LR - BUT -13/-9 on RC.

I am also open to any other suggestions!

HELP!

Thank you!

What are your thoughts on applying to school like U Denver with a 150 Lsat?

Hello, I need to print out some problem sets since I can't always stare at a screen. I don't have my own printer so I have to send the PDF to the central printer in my apartment building. But the printer says it won't print until I decrypt the document. When I use the password, I have to access the PDF, it doesn't decrypt the file or take away the security of the document. Does anyone know what I can do to decrypt or how can I print when it is password protected?

I have sent a message to the student services and waiting for their response, but if anyone has a quick suggestion, please let me know.

Thank you!

My Aug’21 results came back (3rd test this calendar year) and I was blown away by how badly I fucked up. I mean I was averaging 169+ and repeatedly hitting 170-171 the last five or so tests before the actual exam and my score came out to be 162, which is one point higher than my first test. My highest score is 165 which was on the June exam, and I’m signed up to take it a fourth time in October. I’m just unsure if it’s worth it at this point. Based on my PTs, I’m definitely capable of hitting my goal of high 160s but it hasn’t happened during the past two tests (which I was actually confident about) and I initially wanted to apply by the end of September or early October so taking it in October will push back my applications to at least mid November. So I’m wondering if it’s worth taking it a fourth time and if I do and don’t perform better than my high of 165, will it negatively impact me my candidacy in any way? Just for a complete picture, my LSAC gpa is 4.02 from Berkeley Haas and my goal has been to get into a top 10 school, specifically in the East Coast. Please let me know if you have any advice!

Dear All,

Let me know if there's anyone interested in exchange PS, resumes, etc. I am in the midst of writing all this and I think having as many eyes on as possible would be great. PM or post!

I want to print out all the questions I've missed, taken a long time on, or waffled back and forth on so that I can revisit them. Is there a way to do that from the test review page, or do I need to write them down and make a problem set out of them?

Hey everyone,

I am thinking of taking the LSAT around June or August. I am aiming to apply for the cycle after the current one (Fall 2023 I am guessing .... correct me if I am wrong please... I am still figuring it out). Basically, I am sending out my applications a year from now (end of 2022).

I need to hit a 170 and have been studying 6 days a week. I started with a score of 143 about 2 years ago... Couldn't study since then because of school and I am finally focused on the LSAT. It's become my main focus.

I was wondering if I should do PTs about once or twice a week until I am done with the CC or wait till I get through the whole CC before I move to PTs.

I am really worried that i'll spend 1-2 months on the CC and then find that my score is not improving due to not practicing enough.

Also, with the time I have to study (about 9ish months): is it reasonable to hope to hit a 170+?

If anyone can share their experiences it would be really appreciated

Thanks in advance

Hi all,

I am looking to form a study group with people who want to improve on the hardest passages in the test. Prerequisite is scoring at least -6 per section on RC. The plan is to start next week on Friday 9:00 AM to 11:00 AM eastern standardized time to discuss 4 passages that I pick. If you are interested DM me.

I’ve only been working on questions and PTing digitally because I didn’t want to get used to doing them on paper but so often feel like I could really benefit from the paper format at least while going through cc and just figuring all the stuff out. Wondering if anyone has experience in studying/PTing on paper until maybe closer to the final few PTs before the actual test? Did you find it helpful to work on paper? Did you have difficulty switching over to digital later? Any thoughts are appreciated!

PT2.S2.Q11 LSAT 2 PREPTEST 2 Question 11 section 2

I don't get how this answer is "B."

The question is asking "Which following statements are consistent with biologist's claim, but not with politician's."

biologist claims: deforestation --> NO Koala

Politician claims: If save Koala --> stop deforestation (did I get that translation right?)

How is "B" consistent with Biologist's claim? I see how it's not consistent with politician's claim, which is part of the answer.

Is it that the Koala could still get extinct for another reason. If that's so, how do I get in the mind set to infer an answer like that?

Very interesting question. Chose C like a moron cuz I was thinking hmmm how would irritation in the lungs and pollen has anything to do with death? No way people die to pollen allergy?

AC A is the correct one. The fact that population increased does not mean anything to the argument. I can't even identify the trap here and my theories are that first, it is trying to trick the taker by hinting at that the death rate rose was just due to the population increase instead of the inhaler. But death rate has already taken into account of total population, so if death rate rose, the total urban population doesn't matter: it simply means that the percentage of ppl within a given population dying to asthma has increased. My second theory is that the test writers want to make test takers mistaken "population" as "pollution," but idk.

AC B is a direct reference to the part where the question stem mentions that the ability to count asthma patients has not improved. AC B bolsters that part of the argument, making it more likely that there is something else other than the increased accuracy of data collection.

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Hi

I am 77% done with 7Sage CC. I am looking for anyone to study with me at Gangnam. I can pay for the usage of study cafe. I am a 29-year-old Korean American male with a family residing in Korea

So I got sucked into the words when I was doing this. This is a clear necessary/sufficient question.

The logic structure, however, was fairly simple. IF retail store has Revenue decrease (RD), that means EITHER Attitde changed or P risen. IF P risen, salaries not Kept Pace. RD--> A or P, and then P --> /SKP.

Question stem shows that salaries kept pace, so SKP contrapositive of P --> /SKP is SKP-->/P. In English: SKP means that Price not risen. Then we go into the answer choice. When I was doing it, I saw D and thought hey if the other condition happened, that means the Revenues does not decrease, Chose D, but no. Both P and and A are necessary condition for RD. Satisfying RD leads to either A or P, but satisfying A or P means nothing to RD, and /P does not lead to A as the sufficient condition RD has not been met. The decrease revenues can still happen, or it would not. Basic lawgic lesson here. AC A is a popular choice, but /P in the condition chain of RD--> A or P doesn't do anything; so /P does not lead to A being satisfied.

Takeaway: be very sensitive to conditional words like IF, and remember the foundational lawgic. IF introduces sufficient condition, and satisfying necessary condition is not enough.

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I just received the email from LSAC that October LSAT for Europe will be on Thursday October 14.

My issue is that I will start working for a company in Europe on October 1, and the first six months will be on probation. I am kind of anxious to ask for a leave during the first two weeks of employment, and obviously (since it is a branch totally unrelated to law) I cannot tell them that I am writing the LSAT.

Legally, I am entitled to 2 weekdays of holiday per month. However, what should I tell them if they ask me (I think they will because, on exactly that day, there is a training for new employees, and they explicitly asked me last month if that day would work for me to do the training session)? If I say something like "an unexpected private matter", it might raise suspicions (and, legally, they can fire me at any time during the first six months)...

Are there any other working moms out there who are studying for the LSAT? I truly hope I am not the only one!

I wanted to make a groupme where working moms can support each other through the process of going through the core curriculum and preparing for the LSAT.

Message me if you want to join the groupme. I truly hope I am not alone in this seemingly crazy, impossible pursuit!

Thank you all! Good luck to you with your studies!

Have you ever been arrested, cited or ticketed, charged with, convicted of, placed on deferred adjudication, or pled guilty or pled nolo contendere (no contest) to any violation or criminal offense other than a minor traffic violation? (Note: You must report any failure to appear resulting from any offense, including a minor traffic offense, any failure to maintain financial responsibility (legally required auto insurance), any attempt, whether successful or not, to suspend or revoke your driver's license.) Adults who have been charged with a crime and who accept Deferred Adjudication must report such information under this question because the concept of Deferred Adjudication involves a plea of guilty or no contest, and the offense cannot be erased from a person’s record. An applicant does not need to disclose information about a juvenile record. Further, an applicant does not need to disclose information about a criminal record that has been sealed, ordered nondisclosed, or expunged; however, it is up to each applicant to ensure that his/her offense is in fact expunged, ordered nondisclosed, and/or sealed under the relevant state law. If an applicant fails to disclose information that is not in fact expunged, ordered nondisclosed, or sealed, the applicant may be subject to disciplinary action by the University. NOTE: You must include any offenses involving drugs or alcohol as well as any failure to appear warrant, unless excused as described above.

My question is in regards to this character and fitness question stated above. I'm currently 34 years old the incident in question happened when I was 21. My roommate in college decided to throw a little party in our dorm (involving alcohol) being as how I had nowhere else to go I had to stay in the room. University PD busts the party up and essentially gives everyone a citation. I was 21 at the time so I'm given a harsher citation (contributing to minors-which was BS I didn't buy the alcohol). I lawyered up and the citation was rightfully dismissed. Can I click "NO" for this question? Thanks in advance.

Hello everyone, I’m in the process of applying for law school. I’m currently working on getting together my LORs. It was highly suggested that I get an academic letter, but I’m completing an online degree. Any tips on getting an academic letter from a completely online degree program? Or should I move past this and get a professional recommendation letter from my current employer since I’ve worked full time with them while completing my degree. I’m just concerned because as some of you may know, you have very little contact with your professors through an online program. Any help is appreciated! Thanks

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas how to PT like you are in the new LSAT test (3 sections but with an experimental, like what the new LSAT is like through June '22), but grade only the three sections? I want to simulate the test as closely as possible without excluding the time and energy it takes for the additional experimental section, and get a grade accurate to what I'd get with just the one LR section. And for anyone who's done this, do you recommend doing it like this?

Is there a way to properly grade just 3/4 sections?

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Hello, I am working through Prep Test 4, Section 3, Game 1 and I am trying to understand what's the best way to approach question #5, specifically as it relates to finding the "Minimum number" -- I have watched the explanation video a few times but I am still not sure how to begin solving this type of question?

Explanation Video: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-4-section-3-game-1/

#help

Hi fellow 7sagers,

I have been using 7sage for lsat prep for quite a while, and I really enjoy using it and have seen some great improvements on my prep tests. However, I don't seem to see those improvements in my actual exams. I have taken it three times and the scores are nowhere near where I was in prep tests. Of course, the tests I have taken on 7sage are all timed and proctored, and I follow the blind review closely. My recent score on the prep tests mostly fluctuates around 168, and sometimes I get to 171 or 170. I literally finished a timed pt yesterday and scored an honest 172. But the test result that just came out was again a disappointment in the low 160s. I felt confident during the test, no debilitating anxiety, and there wasn't really any anomaly.

This is really frustrating, but I really want to get better. Is there anyway to overcome this? I hope I can get some answers and continue to improve. Thank you all in advance!

Isn’t there an assumption w/ C? That the songs they were asked to write for movie soundtracks were written for those movie soundtracks? If I’m a movie producer and I ask a hit song writer to write a song for a movie sound track and they say no and write it instead for radio, how does that imply that the song was written for a movie soundtrack? Why is “Such songs” taken to reference “songs written for movie soundtracks” rather than referencing “those songs that movie producers (or whoever asks) asked writers to make for movie sound tracks,” because where the former implies they were written for movies, the latter does not.

They sometimes decline, because although “songs written for movie soundtracks” frequently become hits, their writers receive single up front payments rather than continued revenues from airplay.

Versus

They sometimes decline, because although “songs which movie producers asked hit song writers to write” frequently become hits, their writers receive single up front payments rather than continued revenues from airplay.

The latter example opens up the scenario that a movie producer could of asked a hit song writer to write a song for a movie sound track. The writer could reject the offer and write it instead for radio. In this case the song was never written for a movie soundtrack to begin.

It’s a small and reasonable assumption but it felt strange making in a MBT, I would of expected it to be reasonable in a MSS.

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do you guys think it's a bad idea? i wanted to submit my application early and wait for my scores. does anyone that will ruin my chances.

While obviously late in the cycle, will the January test be able to be counted toward this cycle?