Feeling extremely disheartened in recent days; I always seem to either completely screw up or make silly mistakes on RC/LG. No idea how to break out of this because something or the other always crops up to bring down my score.

Hey!

Any tips on how to study for the October test? How did you create your study schedule?

Tks!!

Is it possible to buy the prep plus package only for a month? I haven't seen the option on law-hub so I was wondering if that's possible [though it doesn't seem to be, unfortunately].

I'm currently PT'ing in the low 170's. Got a 170 in April after PT'ing in the high 160s. Like many, I really want to try and push above 175. I work full time. Should I take June, August, or October? Part of me feels like a month is not enough to comfortably PT in the high 170's. How long did it take you to PT from low 170's to high 170's?

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Hey y'all,

I've been studying since January part-time with the LSAT Trainer, and recently got 7Sage to compliment my learning. I hear that people often see their biggest score increases when they drill PTs, that they spend 2-3 months on them, and that it's the best way to get accustomed to the exam. I'll be taking the August LSAT, roughly 90 days from now. At the pace I'm at, I expect to finish the CC in 40 days, leaving 50~ days for PT drilling. Will I be too rushed after finishing the CC to get ready for the exam, and if so, are there any CC sections that people just gloss over?

Thank you! : )

I would like to take the LSAT online for the August administration, but I didn't see anywhere to select that when I registered. Will they ask us later or how does it work?

Looking for someone to study with for the LSAT planned for January!

Feel free to respond!

I have found that I am much more attentive during my PTs when I consume a moderate amount of coffee. This would be expected. That being said, it comes with the side effect of non-stop bathroom breaks. The alternative is caffeine pills (~100mg), which would not have the same adverse effect. Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow pills to be made with pure caffeine because people could have cardiac arrest. This also means that the pills typically have other sketchy ingredients to fill in the gap. Caffeine would especially help with reading comprehensions and maintaining awareness. Any ideas?

I've been PTing in the 170-178 range, with quite a bit of fluctuation in this range. I scored a 170 on the actual exam and I'm aiming for a score in the high-170s.

Given my personal schedule/commitments, I'll basically have to take 4 months away from studying for the test. During this time, I really won't be able to study with the exemption of possibly one day per week. I will have time to study after these 4 months, though. I'm not in a huge rush to retake the test.

I think I know the fundamentals very well, with the exemption of some topics: I'm not 100% solid on Formal Logic yet and I haven't really spent a lot of time working on the rare game types, namely pattern games, mapping games, circular games (according to the PowerScore classification).

I'm not quite perfect on any of the sections yet, but I have gotten in the -0 to -3 range for each. I probably need more work on all three sections.

After about 4 months away from the test, I might need some refreshing of the fundamentals. I'm not sure exactly how much I'll have forgotten. But I'm sure I can get the knowledge/speed/fluency back quite quickly even after 4 months away from the test. I've been on 7Sage for a while now, but I've just never used the Core Curriculum. I've mostly just watched the explanation videos by J.Y.

Is it worth going through the entire Core Curriculum? How long does it take to do so? And will someone scoring in the 170s already find value in doing so?

Also curious about those of you who have gone through Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. I've already read the PowerScore LG and LR books and the Manhattan RC book. I've watched a lot of J.Y.'s explanations for all three sections. I bought the Trainer a long time before I actually started studying but I've barely touched it. I've heard good things about it. But I'm just wondering whether this is just far too basic for someone already in the 170s.

Thank you all!

After nearly 8 months of studying, I've finally made the leap into the 170s. I feel so relieved and happy that all this work is paying off.

To give a bit of background, I began studying last Fall by myself out of a workbook. I had no real idea about the "racket" that exists around studying for the LSAT, so I figured any study guide is just as good, plus I didn't want to pay a ton of money before I knew I needed to.

So I self-studied, and improved by a lot - first PT was a 155, and my Jan Flex score was a 167. Huge leap, and I felt good about it, but toward the end of that test prep I was becoming incredibly frustrated by how I was getting stuck in the upper 160s.

After only 2.5-3 months of 7Sage, I've made that leap and just had my first 171 PT (before blind review)!

I think what really did help was the timeframe. I know it sounds completely insane when JY says you should ideally spend a year studying for this test, but it did help to percolate on these concepts. I think what facilitated the leap was a really fundamental understanding of two things:

Argument structure. Being really quick and accurate on determining this is a premise, this is a sub-conclusion, this is the main conclusion...especially for the harder, wordier questions, this foundational knowledge is what kept me from panicking toward the back half of the LR section. Accuracy is key here, which I honed in all these f-ing Problem Sets! Do the Problem Sets! Consider it like homework in high school - it's a time suck, but it's training your brain like lifting weights.

Complete understanding of Sufficient vs. Necessary, and how to translate to and from Lawgic quickly and accurately. At this point, the questions I'm missing are mostly ones where I either screw up the Lawgic translation, or I don't "have enough time" so I try to speed through thinking that my brain is a little bit better than it is at holding these concepts without jumbling them. I have a study sheet that I keep next to me while I work that breaks down the 4 categories of Lawgic indicators, and I will constantly glance at it as I go through the lessons and Problem Sets. I take it away during the PTs, but I allow myself this security blanket during the Problem Sets because again, it helps me not panic and it's kinda like training wheels...the PTs are the time to take off the training wheels and see how you hold up on your own. If you feel like you're getting totally bogged down in remembering the Lawgic indicators, try to find ways to give yourself these training wheels and slowly take them away. Like the lifting weights analogy, you've gotta build up to the heaviest lifting.

So while I came to 7Sage hoping to get some great insider tips or that intangible, key thing I was missing, and discovered that I really, really just needed a stronger foundation. For those worried about the breadth of material you may still have to study, I hope I can encourage you all to not skimp on the basics, even if they feel redundant. I cannot tell you how many "hard" questions I was able to blow through because I could identify the structure and specifically how the premise relates to the conclusion, and therefore realize that all the wrong answers were way off because they didn't relate to the premise and conclusion. The test began to open up for me once you solidified a fundamental understanding of grammatical structure (and took my ego out of the picture).

Best of luck to all of you, and hope you all find the same satisfaction as I did today!

Hello!!

While drilling the flaw question types, I ran into an answer choice in PT 62 that says that the author "rejects a view merely on the grounds that an inadequate argument has been made for it."

However, this was not the correct answer choice and I'm wondering if there are any example questions where I can see a passage that actually matches this flaw.

I'm just curious what this flaw would look like in actual questions.

Thanks in advance!

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

Q5:

As a negation, could we say - it is possible that there are also no analogies that are most appropriate for political campaigns

SO:

"Either something else is more appropriate analogy for reporting on political campaigns than chess is

OR something else ties with chess as being the most appropriate analogy for reporting on political campaigns." PLUS

OR there are zero most appropriate analogies for reporting on political campaigns

Can we not account for "zero" in the negation here?

Link to the Quiz: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-negation-3-answers/?ss_completed_lesson=12772

@canihazJD, @Christopherr, @jmarmaduke96 tagging you in case you can help with a response.

Hello 7Sage neighborhood,

I didn't have any luck with the 'Study Buddies' tool so I am reaching out here.

I'll try to be really detailed in what I'm looking for in a Study Buddy so we have the best chance of being a good match.

From present until late June/early July we link up 1x per week for 1-1.5hrs/wk (preferably toward the end of the week/Thurs-Sat) and review questions we have from the Core Curriculum. These can be any questions at all - concepts, specific LR/LG/RC questions, strategy - with the goal that we help each other gain new insights. I do not believe there's such a thing as a "stupid question" nor should there be any pressure on either of us to try to sound smart or be right about everything. Our goal is to help each other see with a clear view or different perspective, and I believe something as simple as riffing about a question we're having trouble with is extremely beneficial.

From early July through October we link up 1x per week to review PTs. I'd like to build a PT schedule together, and then we can use these sessions in a variety of ways - BRing sections as a team, deep diving individual questions to really get behind the psychology of the LSAT writers, doing question transformations where we take the questions and create new questions out of them, and more.

If you'd like to team up, feel free to send me a message and we can chat further!

Happy studying.

Hello everyone - I'm looking for people who might be interested in some free LR LG RC tutoring.

I'm consistently scoring in the high 160s and low 170's and hoping that tutoring will help me perform better on the actual test.

Please PM if you're interested!!

dont understand the stimuli or anser choice c language

I was stuck between answer choice B and E. E was really tempting because in paragraph three it says that, "in general, biochemists judged to be too ignorant of chemistry to grasp the basic process." Would really appreciate clarification about why E is incorrect. Thanks!

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format "PT#.S#.Q# (P#) - brief description of stimulus"

#Help

I'm not sure that I understand why C is right and E is not. It seems to me even though E is not a "good" answer because consultants advice only didn't lead to good outcomes "at first," but it's still a negative outcome based on their advice.

I can reason out C being correct by countering Mr. Blatt's claim that expert consultants make "better decisions." It just seems off to me because it reads as the consultants' own firm, not an independent business they are giving advice to.

Can anyone give stronger reasons?

Was wondering how people do this. I have recently done the first RC/LG, and then go to the longest one. then do the rest.

Hello!!! I am looking for a study buddy or group for those who are taking the LSAT in November 2021! if interested HMU and lets conquer this test together!!! I typically study in the evening around 4/5pm-9pm.

I still don't understand why "the only" in answer choice B is valid. My original prephrase was "vote for L or N -> unacceptable." B says: unacceptable -> vote for L and N. It seems that B is the exact reversal of my prephrase.

I see why it is unacceptable to vote for L or N, but how does this fact make the answer choice B correct?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-3-question-23/

Hi all!

I'm looking for a study buddy to take and keep accountable through the next month into June. I've been averaging ~173 over all the tests (according to 7sage) and am mostly just trying to get my consistency up so I can score around this range next month. My main focus will be on RC/LR, but will be drilling some LG throughout as well.

I work during the days, so am planning to study every weekday between 7:30-9:30AM EST, and once on the weekend. We can discuss specifics about how to tackle this in a DM. Generally, the primary goals will be to keep each other accountable, study together (likely over videochat) to get used to the online proctoring format, and talk through BR and questions that we miss.

Comment or message me directly if interested!

Hi there!

Knowing that the exams from August onward will include a fourth section of either LR, LG, or RC chosen at random, will the 7Sage prep test simulator be updated to reflect a random fourth section? Or would we have to build our own scenarios within the problem sets? At present, it looks like problem sets can only be built for one section type at a time.

Thanks!

#help

Hey all,

I'm registered for the June LSAT. I have been studying/ watching 7sage videos and practicing since the beginning of February. For the final stretch what makes the most sense studying wise? Should I be doing a practice test weekly, biweekly? I have not completed all of the videos and practice sets but have a brief familiarity with every section. My weakest section is definitely Logic Games. Any advice? Thank you!!

does anyone have a list of all the games that have rules with "unless" on them ? I thought I had found one in this discussion board but I can't seem to find it. Thank you.