Hi,

Does anyone have any study tips for understanding converse/inverse statements that appear on LR questions to trick the test taker?

For example, on Necessary or Sufficient Assumption questions, I have a difficult time differentiating the converse/inverse from the contrapositive, and because of the time constraint, I consistently get these answers wrong.

@jenleeva had a good question about the first LR section of PT 39, Q12, and I'm also stumped:

"How do we know that 'not right' = 'wrong'? And vice versa? Wouldn’t 'not wrong' logically have a neutral option?

#help "

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I would like to get advices how to hit two birds with one stone: how to hone your LSAT skills while you are in 1L law school. I'm currently a 1L law school student, thinking to take the LSAT once again just for personal reasons and wanted to ask experts or the experienced how to concurrently hone LSAT skills while reading the cases in your doctrinal classes.

Thank you in advance!

Hey guys, I took the LSAT for the first time this August.

On test day, I also submitted my writing portion. Right before the time was up as I was proofing what I wrote, I noticed a word had incorrectly auto-corrected to "succumbed" instead of "survived," but the time ended before I could fix it!

I'm so upset because rather than your standard typo it appears that I do not understand the meaning of the word "succumbed!!" Do you all think I should submit another writing sample? Will admissions teams still see the old version anyway? Maybe I should do another and correctly work in the word succumbed just to show that I do know what it means, ugh.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-4-question-04/

I ran into something that kind of tripped me up and I wanted to hear from someone else (hint, it's the phrase "in order to"). Can I break the argument down as follows?

Because studies show that flex is associated with morale(P), ABC should therefore flex (SCC), therefore increasing production(MCC).

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Hey are there any strategies to choose which RC passages to read first, second, third, fourth? Or do you guys suggest going 1-4 as given? Is it better to do passages with more questions first? Thanks for all your help!

A law school I'm applying to has this as a description for whether to attach an addendum to an application:

"We encourage you to provide any relevant information that may be helpful to us in making an informed decision on your application. Any information that you believe to be relevant to your application is appropriate."

I'm debating between adapting my personal statement to be curtailed to each law school I apply to, or to attach a longer "Why X Law School" statement in my addendum to my top-choice law schools. Attaching the addendum would allow me to get more in depth (as opposed to a personal statement which would be more brief) about why a specific law school would truly help me. Basically, I'm asking is it appropriate to, and if so, should I I include a "Why X Law School" statement as an addendum?

NVM I FOUND IT, for anyone looking for a difficult RC passage it was PT 67 S1 P2.

Hey guys! I'm looking to locate a specific RC passage and really don't have much to go on - guess I'm hoping someone else will be able to recognize it lol.

I believe it was in the 60s or 70s and it was written like a journal or about someones journal or something, I think it was about a Chinese author? Anyways that's very limited information, the reason I'm looking for this passage is because it was ABSTRACT AF. Like there was BARELY any structure and it was notorious for this.

If anyone recognizes the description and wants to share any passages that it might be, do comment down below!

I realize this isn't a lot to go on so thanks to anyone who comments!

hey guys,

this is just a little rant I guess. I thought I was improving and bringing up my score and I did prep test 88 for games alone and got -12 it was really hard for me and I struggled ALOT. Usually on games I get anywhere between -3-5 wrong. This was just a very shitty experience. It sucks I have to pay the 200$ Canadian to move it but I would also rather move it than get a low score. I don't know if anyone feels like this but it definitely is just a shitty feeling when you feel like you progressed but didn't. On the bright side I am happy because I will still be able to apply for my schools and all with the November score it will delay me by a month but I'd rather be delayed with a higher score.

Could anyone tell me if two months is enough time to STUDY for the LSAT?

Hi! If you're scoring in the 170s in PTs in the 40s through 60s but your score drops to mid to higher 160s in the 70s and 80s would the latter be more reflective of your potential score for the real lsat? If you experienced a score slump in the more recent PTs which sections were you getting most wrong in? and what did you do to improve? Is it useful to practice with earlier PTs if the recent lsats are modeled more on 70s and 80s?

Hey guys, I just wanted to ask if you all had been advised on how long is too long for an addendum?

I am submitting one to explain a low GPA. I think I have decently good reasons and evidence for how I have changed the situation since I was an undergraduate student, but I'm really not sure how much detail to include in my story.

I think I've written a compelling story that is a page and a half long. I could take out a lot of detail and squeeze it back down to one page, but I feel the bare bones version is significantly less interesting and obviously takes away a good deal of context. What are y'alls thoughts on this?

PS, I'm applying at schools in the 60-80 range

Hi all! I am looking to find some people who want to be part of a small study group (about 6) for the November LSAT. I am thinking about meeting three times a week for now (Sundays - Logic Games, Tuesdays - Reading Comp, and Thursdays - Logical Reasoning) and drilling a different section of a practice test before each meeting. Seeing/hearing how other people break down difficult questions I got wrong is super beneficial to me (and maybe you!). Let me know if you can meet on these days sometime between 4pm to 8pm and want to join!

Greetings all!

I am looking for people with open schedules that are highly competitive and willing to kick each other in the butt when not on task! I am creating a google doc with links to great information but also times and date that we can meet in zoom calls or just chat through group messaging . Please drop your email if interested. I'm not a spamming bot :/ I wanna score high and need DOGS around me!

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I completed my LSAT writing for January's test- and I just retook the test in August. Do I need to do another LSAT writing sample?

I use to score from -7 to -10 on logic games, my worst was -12. Over the past several weeks, maybe 2 months, I have gotten significantly better and can score in the -1 to -4 range. My last PT I got -1 on LG. I want to be really excited about this improvement but I always feel like it wasn't truly my hard studying and blind reviewing that got me here, for example I will lead myself to think that it was just an easy set or I was able to see inferences I wouldn't be able to on actual test day. The worst thought I tell myself is that my real test (in October) will have curveballs or insanely hard games that my practice isn't preparing me for and I will end up scoring -10 again.

Does anyone else struggle with this?

Hi everyone! I just got back to college this past year. I am hoping to take the LSAT again in January and apply by February. I took the LSAT back in April for the first time. I am hoping to improve with a 10-20 point increase. Is taking two practice tests a week with Blind review a good method to study? I am forgetting how to attack the LSAT again....

I just got married during my gap year and my wife and I have the income one would expect of two humanities degree-holders with plans to go to law school—and a net worth to match. What kind of financial aid is likely for someone in my circumstances?

I heard it is a common thing to write one like writing a diversity statement together with your personal statement. Some say it might help your app but I heard some admissions hate reading the extra document?

Should I write one for every school I'm applying or not? My 2 pages personal statement does not included anything about certain school.

Any advice is welcome! Thank you so much!

Hello, I'm wondering if I can drill 1 LR question at a time or one LG at a time. I like to see if I got something correct right away. But from what I can tell you can only drill by adding each question yourself? That just seems like it takes a lot of time. Thank you.

Looking for someone to go over Pt's and study with for the 2022 February LSAT

My personal statement contains information that would normally go into a diversity statement. In that case, would I still need to write a diversity statement? If I do not, would I be missing out on a chance to present another aspect of myself?

I've tried cutting down the personal statement into the length for a diversity statement, but that makes it lose out on a lot of important points. Would it be okay to just stick to the personal statement and not write the diversity one?

Thank you!

I'm taking the October LSAT and have a bit more than one month left for prep. My goal is to break consistently into the high 170's.

So far, I've taken 18 full-length timed PT's incl. BR: J07 (161), 36 (180), 37 (169), 38 (169), 39 (170), 62 (177), 63 (174), 64 (176), 65 (171), 67 (171), 68 (177), 69 (172), 70 (173), 71(173), 80 (170), 79 (175), 82 (172), 83 (172) - in that order.

From PT69 onwards, I've really been stuck in the low-170's. I still have September to improve, and planned to do PT84-May20 & eventually PT81 and PTC2. The plan was to continue having faith in the BR process and rigorously review the test every time after I take it, understand why each correct AC is correct and why each is wrong, become certain why I was attracted by wrong AC and what drove me away from the AC etc.

However, I'm not really sure whether this will allow me to achieve my goal:

It doesn't seem to be an issue of focus or silly mistakes, since I typically finish the sections on time and the LR-questions I miss are typically the ones that I only understand all AC after very rigorous review (from PT79 onwards, I even got some of them wrong during BR - I feel that the 80's have way more hard LR questions and way more subtle wrong/right AC, which sucks up more time).

An averaged score breakdown from my last 7 PT's looks like this: RC -5, LR1 -2, LR2 -1, LG -1.

RC seems indeed to be my weakest section. Sometimes it's something that I either forgot or misunderstood in the passages which leads to wrong questions, but the majority of my mistakes are due to weirdly formulated or subtle AC that I typically get right after a very close look during BR. Even during BR, I get 1-2 questions wrong on RC.

It seems to me that it requires some further fine-tuning of my skills in order to get into high 170's. Will this fine-tuning likely come simply through BR (like I've been doing it until now), or would you recommend some other approaches?

Besides competency itself, what else could be factors to improve on? I admit that during the last 2 weeks or so I've slacked a bit off in terms of reading The Economist, but I started reading it regularly again and two days ago I went through my vocab list again. Otherwise I can't really think of other factors...

Honestly this LSAT journey was an extremely uphill one. I just wanted to share and hopefully encourage others to not give up. (lengthy and more about mindset)

THANK YOU 7SAGE!!!!! During this time, I've tried the LSAT Trainer, the Powerscore Bibles, and skimmed through Manhattan Prep before I got 7sage in July 2020. 7sage worked best for me. I'd really suggest taking advantage of the analytics to get a solid baseline in the beginning and target drilling your weak spots. My initial weaknesses were logic games, then after I got better using the foolproof method and just drilling, I focused on logical reasoning (I used the Trainer and 7 sage for this), and my RC ALWAYS fluctuated (like -2 one day to -11on another). RC was the hardest for me to learn. I used the drills on 7sage and read articles on The New Yorker regularly. Targeted drills were really helpful to me. Sometimes I'd actually purposefully do my drills in noisy places, where my sister was watching Netflix or whatever, to get used to keeping calm despite distractions. Keeping calm during the test (in spite of distractions) and having peace with myself is what helped me the most. If you have any specific questions lmk and I'll try my best to answer! :)

Hi everyone,

Looking for current buddies and/or a group to keep accountability/prep for October LSAT (and possibly November). My average over the 7 PT's I've taken is around 170 (163 on the first and 179 on most recent). My blind scores have consistently been high 170s-180, and starting next week will be taking two tests a week from PT's 70-90 and conducting in-depth reviews. Goal is to score at least 170 on October exam. Would love to find some people (preferably with test averages of 165+) willing to do group Blind Reviews or section reviews of those tests + share insights and tips for performing under time pressure!

EDIT:

Hey everyone! I've gone ahead and created a groupme link for people to join. Feel like this group chat can act as a general Q/A for general and specific questions about the test, as well as a place for us to coordinate (for example, I'll let the group know when I'm taking PT's and available to BR, and others can do the same!) I'll post the link below! Happy to hear that people are interested!

https://groupme.com/join_group/70353139/YEVzThZA