If C does not occur, then A and B cannot both occur

Would the diagram look like

/C > A or B

or...

/C > /A & /B

or are those both wrong @.@ I'm so confused

Title gets to the point. Recently I've found myself in a slump -- less fired up about studying, hovering around the same section averages, PT scores dipping a bit from inconsistency, etc. I only have a few PTs left and I want to make them count. I guess my question is:

Have you experienced a study slump w/ the LSAT? How'd you break it and get back to trending up? I know those are broad, loaded questions lol.

Recently got into a bad slump and am looking to get better with both sections. Please share your (preferably affordable) recommendations. Thanks!

Hi guys! Taking the LSAT at 2pm today. I was wondering if you had any advice you are willing to share as to what your LSAT test day warm up is? I want to perform well on this test and I do not want to study too much or too the little morning of. Advice? What works best for you??? perform

LR still doesn't seem to be clicking for me. My goal is to be -1/0 in this section and I have heard a lot of positive things about Ellen Cassidy's Loophole book.

For those of you that have read it and tried other resources before you bought the book, what were your results and would you recommend it?

I only have the last few chapters left of Powerscore's LR Bible. I already read the stimulus first and aim to understand it first before I even read the question stem. I think most of my errors come in misunderstanding the answer choices, but sometimes I just have a conceptual misunderstanding when reading the stimulus too. Recently, I've been getting as many as -8/-9 wrong in a section. I've tried doing a few "blind verbal translation drills" because I saw them described and advocated for somewhere on this forum. I'm not under 20 minutes yet (most recent: 28 min with 4- poor, 3-ok, 9-good, 10 great. My system: GREAT = Concl. and all premises correct, GOOD = 1 premise slightly incorrect (on a multi-premise question), OK = 2 premises slightly incorrect, or concl. half correct, POOR = concl. Incorrect, or more than 2 premises incorrect)

Also, the trend I see with questions I get wrong: SA, Flaw, and NA.

I didn't complete all of 7Sage CC. I am a LSAC fee waiver recipient, so money is an issue and thought I would come here and get feedback before I made the investment on the Loophole book or paid the full price for a month of 7Sage CC.

If you have any general LR advice/guidance on what I should do, that would be much appreciated!

Thanks for your time :)

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Random question, I was told by an LSAT tutor that you can use control F on the actual LSAT in reading comprehension to help find a phrase or word. Is that true?

Had a cancellation and a no show, that have me all dressed up (not really... I'm in board shorts) with no place to go.

I'll be in here: DONE

All are welcome.

Hi! Do you all Blind review every test? I’ve found that between working full time while studying, Blind reviewing and then going over correct answers takes a lot of time to do and limits the amount of lessons/PTs I take.

Do you think it would be okay to just do the Blind Review every other test instead of every test?

First impression wise, this argument isn't great because the conclusion is so strongly worded ("no loss in safety"). We can strengthen this argument by showing that having two types of passenger vehicles on the road (one that's lighter and, hence, more fuel-efficient for driving local; another that's heavier and, hence, safer for driving on highways) does in fact save fuel without sacrificing safety.

Round 1 elimination:

A - can't quite see how this is relevant under timed, so saving this for later.

B - what kind of cars are we talking about? the lighter, more fuel-efficient ones or the heavier, safer (but less fuel-efficient) ones? and how much more are we talking about? if anything, B appears to weaken because it seems to show us one way that counteracts fuel-efficiency (if we were to assume that more cars driving on highways = less fuel-efficiency)

C - are "large" cars necessarily safer? we can't know for sure so we can't gauge its safety, which means we can't gauge the gains or losses in safety now versus twenty years ago

D - the argument is focused on two types of passenger vehicles only, not commercial vehicles.

E - can't quite make sense of this under timed either so saving this as well.

Round 2: down to A and E, both have a NA feel to them.

E gives us more info on our premise (manufacturers produced a type of passenger vehicle that's fuel-efficient), so E tells us what we already know. Of course some manufacturers had to have designed prototypes for fuel-efficient passenger vehicles first before actually producing them.

More importantly, E doesn't convince us that there's no loss in safety now that these two types of passenger vehicles are being driven.

A - a NA type strengthener.

Negating this: most households with family members who drive on highways don't own at least 2 passenger vehicles.

If that's the case, then it's unlikely that these people are driving heavier, safer cars on highways.

Why? Because it's reasonable to assume that they drive local too, and to achieve net savings in fuel use, these people should be driving lighter, more fuel-efficient cars. But that means they aren't driving in heavier, safer cars on highways, which strongly indicates that there is in fact a net loss in safety.

Every time I create LR problem sets or take PTs, I try to review by watching the videos of the answers that I got wrong but it always says discuss instead. How do I watch solutions of LR videos of questions that I failed after taking them? This frustrates me because I don't get to see the mistakes that I made to get better.

Hi, Thank you for your time. Please take a look at the following stimulus:

All students at Pitcombe College were asked to label themselves conservative, liberal, or middle-of-the-road politically. Of the students, 25 percent labelled themselves conservative, 24 percent labelled themselves liberal, and 51 percent labelled themselves middle-of-the-road. When asked about a particular set of issues, however, 77 percent of the students endorsed what is generally regarded as a liberal position.

Could someone explain how do I know "or" in the first sentence is exclusive or inclusive? There is no information that each student can only label itself once or by one label.

Thank you very much.

I actually do not know where to click to do it I sometimes do it on accident but don't know how I did it.

Would really like to apply this skill to LR currently scoring in in the high 160s trying to break 170s any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

I am feeling unbelievably low right now and I would appreciate some advice on how to move forward.

I've been using the CC since January 2021, but overall I've been studying full time since September 2020. At the moment, I'm a little over 50% completed with the CC. I have not taken a PT since December (150) so I just took PT 36 to see where I would be scoring.

I scored a 147. I feel so fucking dumb. My LG improved significantly (from -14 to -7), but I am still bombing RC (-14) and LR (-15). I thought with at least completing a little over half of the CC I would have some type of increase in score.

I know I should restrategize how I'm studying because its clearly not efficient. I'm thinking I should continue foolproofing LG and drill LR and RC sets with in depth review instead of doing the CC for it. I've been doing CC in order and have been focusing way too much time strictly on LG. I think I need to force myself to rotate sections.

Any advice and words of encouragement would be greatly appreciated.

Hello people of 7Sage,

On Saturday I took the LSAT. I had been studying for months, wasn't doing too bad on my practice tests, (although I didn't take as many as perhaps I should have) and I'd been getting good accuracy when I practiced on my own. I was feeling pretty confident that I would not screw it up too bad, and accepted that no matter the score I'd probably take it again in the summer.

Well, I completely froze and had a mental break down during the LG section. The pressure of the timer just broke my spirit and blocked all access to my memories. I managed to get through one game, and then when I got to the second I realized that it was a type I had not practiced for a long time and became hyper aware of how long it was taking me to figure out how to set up the game board. That's when all hell broke loose and I basically gave up and essentially guessed on all of the LG section. I finished the other two sections without cracking under the time pressure, but I barely had time to look at my answers. It would take some miracle for my score not to be complete trash.

I know its not the end of the world, this test is designed to push your limits mentally, but I still can't believe how I froze up like that! Has anybody ever had this happen to them on test day? I felt like I could not breathe or think! As soon as the exam ended I burst into tears. The questions didn't seem particularly difficult, but I just feel like I let myself down. I'm really hoping this won't crush my confidence in the future.

I just listened to the podcast episode with Al (highly recommended!) where he mentions how he practiced LG to account for his nerves by learning to distinguish between 'brute force games' vs. 'inference based games' (he didn't use these exact terms but that was the idea I think). I just loved his idea but felt the need to solidify his approach so I can apply it too. From what I gather, he mainly practiced two things for this:

Infer the plainly obvious (for like 10 secs) and stop. Proceed to other rules/questions.

He did 2 sections this way every day.

Trying to solve the game as much as possible from the rules.

He did this for harder games (games 3 and 4) without worrying about the time.

I feel like if you're like me (and Al for that matter) and you do well with typical sequencing/grouping games but choke when you get to the toughest/misc. game because you can't find the inferences (and are also unable to brute force because you want to find inferences), I think you'll really benefit from Al's approach. Here's how I'm thinking of putting his method into practice:

I'm curious how everyone else who listened the episode thinks about his method and how to apply it. Couldn't find his username but Al, your input would be very much appreciated if you happen see this post! :)

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Hey guys, I am currently BR ing and was wondering about step2. What do I do if my reasoning for crossing out wrong answers is different from JY or other "correct" reasons why the answer choice is wrong? I know I sound confusing as hell. So in step2, you circle the correct Answer and before that, for 4 wrong answer choices, you need to lay out why each of them is wrong. I am asking what do I do if my reasons for why they are wrong is different from other expert's reasons for why they are wrong. Thanks for reading this confusing ass post and I would appreciate you guys' help!

Title : )

It's just that people tend to title their discussions, and even question labeling, a bit differently (spacing, etc.) and search results turn out more than I want, so it's not always easy to search for relevant discussions before deciding whether to post my own.

Beyond this, I think it would be more efficient for us to be able to see all discussions in a single place to evaluate which ones are most helpful. As with the LR Qs that do have video explanations.

I am aware that fooldproofing LG is a tried and true method but do you guys foolproof the whole section with the all 4 games? Or just the games in the section individually , one by one ?

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official April 2021 LSAT-Flex Discussion Thread.

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My highlight and underling features are not showing up when I go to do problem sets on the site. There is also no option to cross out answer choices or to complete the section early. All of these features were available for me two days ago. Is this happening to anyone else and does anyone know how to fix this?

So, when I Blind Review right now, I BR every single question, even the ones that I don’t flag. I take note of the answers that I change that I didn’t flag, but I just started timed tests and to me it doesn’t make any sense not to do an in-depth analysis of the entire test. I mean, I guess I could go through the step of just flagging every question, but it kind of feels silly to do that just so I can give myself permission to go over the entire test. Plus, I genuinely want to know which questions I had doubts about in the moment and if I flag everything then I probably won’t remember.

I get that the whole point is to test the accuracy of your confidence, but to me at this stage it feels more valuable to be analyzing every question. I figure at some point after I’ve gained enough experience, I’ll stop BRing questions I feel confident in, and that’s where the method of just reviewing flagged questions will kick in.

I’d love to hear other people’s thoughts on this. Am I putting myself at a disadvantage, or does it not matter at this stage? I think there’s stuff to be learned from every question, even from the super easy questions I probably got right. Why not take the opportunity to look at those as well?

Hey everyone! I wondered if anyone had any tips on improving RC when my timed score is -13 but untimed is -5. Once it's untimed, I can start to parse through the words and get more of an idea of what to answer, but during a timed section, I understand but can't evaluate between two or three really "good looking" answers. Any thoughts on how I would go about that? Also, even knowing that the passages will get more challenging, I find myself spending more time on the first two passages and then leaving the last passages to complete in a hurry, causing obvious inaccuracy issues. Anyways to improve that?

Admin Note: @chaplin___, one of our friends does voice acting so we thought it would be fun to have him read your original post:

https://soundcloud.com/112833/self-affirmations-before-test-day

thought I'd share some self-affirmations with those taking the Flex this weekend:

I've studied hard and worked diligently and persevered in spite of setbacks, and I will continue to push forward because I am capable and I have a strong grasp of the fundamentals.

I am in control of the LSAT. I am the pilot of this plane.

I am calm and I am collected.

I have tremendous potential to excel and I am confident in my own skills.

I have faith in me. I believe in myself.

I deserve kindness and gentleness and I will take care of myself no matter what happens.

I have a bright future ahead of me and I am excited for it.

I am ready for my future.

Hi all, im Jeremy and ive signed up for 7sage after I found the Khan Academy course to be a little simplistic in nature. (honestly didnt do the entire course there, just did Logic Games and decided to quit and pursue 7sage)

Ive done the GMAT before and for the GMAT its best to kind of take a mix and match of a few courses to get a competitive edge and not be caught unaware at the time of test taking

Has anyone done any other LSAT courses before reaching the 7Sage Lsat? Have you, then in that case, found that the knowledge gained there is superior/inferior or at par with this course?

Thanks in advance

Jeremy