I have been taking practice tests for months on an external monitor with my small laptop completely closed. I was told by my proctor that I could not use an external monitor if I was using a laptop no matter if it was closed or not. I called up LSAC while in chat with the proctor and was told the same thing. This killed me, I was super calm before the test but rearranging my workspace and how I interacted with the test was brutal.

I based my assumption that I could use ONE monitor based on https://support.proctoru.com/hc/en-us/articles/360035300212-Multiple-Monitors-Displays page, which is linked from LSAC's website. It says:

"Multiple monitors/displays are not supported. If you have more than one monitor, you will need to disconnect all but one."

Has anyone else run into this problem? Is my interpretation of what I read incorrect? Was anyone else able to use an external monitor for their closed laptops?

Here is an example of ProctorU saying it is allowed! https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/j0cvmu/lsatflex_laptop_and_external_monitor/g6yhvex/

Do you think I have standing to complain to LSAC?

Edit: I forgot to mention that I did a equipment check with ProctorU on Friday and was told everything was fine.

-David

Hi everyone, hope you're all doing well.

I will be taking the LSAT on Tuesday and have been studying for 4 months intensely. My prep-test averages ranged from 162-169 up until last week and this week, they've dropped down to 157-163. I'm not sure what happened? I did start using LawHub to get more familiar with it, and started my PTs in the 80s. I had been doing the ones in 60s and 70s before that. From your experience, would the drop in my score be because of the more recent prep-tests? I'm not sure what to do as I'm testing this Tuesday.... It's very frustrating because my LR today was a -11 when up until last week, the lowest I was scoring was -5 or -4.

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

What would you do if you do not have an option to make a note or low res on the LSAT test in regards to RC since it is a long passage to remember all details ? I have seen Mr. JY explanation on RC and the way he is doing it but I do not know how to make it easy .

was the logic games section pretty basic? no weird or very difficult games?

If anybody wants to join, I created a meeting link below. As the title states it is Monday, August 16th 5:30pm MST, 90 minute session.

meet.google.com/mgo-zmvo-prv

Looking at this forum it seems people want to study with others, but a lot of the meeting links are dead or don't give specific meeting times, therefore I am creating a meeting time. (do you like my conclusion indicator :)

This first session will focus on LR and it will last about 90 minutes. We will do some LR questions so there is nothing to prep for, just show up and participate. I am not a tutor, just someone looking to work on practice problems with others. I am scoring around 154 on PTs so there is plenty for me to work on.

If you can join, cool. If not, all good I will try to do another soon.

I wrote the LSAT twice, where I got a score of 155. On my PTs, I am actually scoring WORSE than I did on the actual LSAT a few months ago. My main issue seems to be running out of time, where I am the weakest at RC. LR is hit and miss; sometimes I get 4-5 questions wrong; sometimes 10.

I wanted to reschedule my LSAT, but LSAC charges as much as it is to re-write a new test, to reschedule. So if I were to write again, I'd need to pay another $200 USD regardless of whether I write in 5 days or not.

What are my best options here to improve in the next few days? I just want a score in the low 160s for the law schools I've been applying to.

Hi, I have been starring LR & LG questions I want to re-do. How do I find them on 7sage?

Hi all, I just finished the August exam and I hope everyone did well! Unfortunately, I was interrupted repeatedly throughout my first RC section by a pop-up that said "reconnecting". It obscured the exam, but the time was still running. Because of this, I lost probably 10-15 minutes of exam time and had no opportunity to answer the last 7 RC questions because the pop-up was appearing every few seconds at that point. Not to mention, the entire experience was disruptive and threw me out of my flow state.

I eventually got my proctor's attention, but it was too late for the RC section. During the following section (LR), we had to pause everything at question 14 and test my WiFi speed. Not as bad as the RC, but the interruption still made it more difficult to focus.

I have a feeling that I'm not alone in this. I even tested everything multiple times on ProctorU before starting the test. Does anyone know what we can do?

Does anybody know the deadline of registration for the October LSAT, as well as the specific time it will be administered on the day? Knowing the time in advance will greatly help by allowing me to make adjustments in my study schedule as early as possible.

Thank you!

I had a total deer in the headlights moment with this question. I just didn’t even know what to think after reading the stimulus aside from why noncompliance would have been ok at the local but not national level and the solution JY has seems to have come out of nowhere. I was under the impression that national law must have been the more restrictive set of rules because noncompliance with it was unacceptable while it might have been ok with local but it’s the opposite. Could someone break this down for me in the simplest way possible, premise by premise?

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It was honestly baffling to see how setting up the game differently (double layered sequencing versus just 1-10 in a line) changes how the rest of the game goes. I'm just going through different types of games ahead of my LSAT on Tuesday and was wondering if y'all can suggest any specific games with a difficult twist to prepare for the unexpected?

Thanks in advance!

Besides the explanation videos, which videos can I watch in the core curriculum to get help on SeqDbl games?

I've thought about this for a little while, and decided I'd just go ahead and ask. Anybody test with a mac, and have the Doc on their mac be an issue. It seems random, but once while doing a Practice Test, I went to input the correct answer choice and accidentally pushed open an application from the doc on the bottom of my screen. I'm trying to temporarily remove it, but don't see how I can. I moved it to the left of my screen and made it smaller, but was wondering what other folks have done. Or is this a non-issue with the Proctor taking over my screen?

Hi all,

I am taking the August LSAT this weekend. I have been trying to take a PT every other day for the last two weeks and sadly my scores seem to be falling. I was consistently scoring 169-172 and my last two scores have been 166 and 165. Does anyone have any words of wisdom on this or having a similar experience?

I seem to remember JY saying in one of his videos that passages with 2 parts in RC (usually labeled part A and B ) are no longer common on the LSAT. Am I remembering this correctly?

Will I be penalized if text messages popped up on my screen while taking the official lsat writing portion? None of the messages contained anything about the exam but a good amount of group texts popped up in the right hand corner while I was working. I assumed that the secure browser would silence any notifications from my computer like honorlock and other proctoring sites do but apparently I was wrong. Has this happened to anyone else? Should I be worried?

WARNING LONG READ

Hi yall, it has now been approximately a month since i got my LSAT score and I really wasn't sure how I was feeling and lost with what to do with my life so I guess this post is kind of late. I wasn't really sure if I was going to post this but I thought the community was always helpful when I was feeling down so I thought I could shed some light on others.

Time Spent: Approx 3+ years on and off. 135ish ( never took a diagnostic but did them untimed) ---> 168. Wrote it like 4 times

Resources Used: Official LSAT Prep Tests Book, LSAT Trainer, Kaplan, Princeton, All of the Powerscore Books, The Loophole, 7sage, pretty much read all of the LSAT books in publication, have written every question once if not 2x 3x 4x

First of all, I was not skilled at the LSAT in fact I was quite stupid to be frank. You know how your suppose to do the first 10 questions in LR in the first 10 minutes ...... yea I was getting like 2 right untimed in the first ten. God knows how many i'll get wrong in the whole section. It sucks but that is the harsh reality. Everyone says the test is learnable and that is true.... but it's just the fact that people learn at different rates and well, if you are not skilled at reasoning nor ever had formal training in logic, nor read much in your younger years then its going to take quite a while ..... However rest assured you will make it, it's just how much you are willing to sacrifice. I literally know a girl who studied for 2 months and got a 172, also recently I got recommended on YT to this girl's channel studyquill and watched her cold diagnostic a 168. DERP DERP DERP. But the point is and I want you guys to know this is that these people have literally been studying their WHOLE lives (just subliminally). They are extremely well read, most likely been trained in logic at a young age, and probably to a certain extent quite gifted. The LSAT is a skills test and if you have been sharpening on these specific skills (logical reasoning, reading, spatial reasoning) you are rewarded. Someone like me that spent his time playing video games....... well its going to be a grind.

In the first part of my studying, I initially just bought the LSAT tests. You know the ones that says 10 new actual official PT's, yea those ones. I would write them untimed in the beginning just to get a good feel of the test. In hindsight, I don't think this is terrible as I actually believe that you should accustom yourself to what they are asking. I have no idea that they were testing on deductive reasoning, heck I didn't even know what that was. I was bringing in inductive reasoning and that honestly kills you on the LSAT. The LSAT only cares about what is on paper. I wish someone told me that earlier but I honestly wouldn't have been able to separate my inferences as that was so foreign to me. I think I did this for a few months hoping that the more questions I do, I would just naturally get better. Oh yea, don't do that. You need to know specific concepts on the LSAT if you were never taught that. I had no idea what a necessary assumption yet alone what was a sufficient assumption. I would pick that answer like it was a main point and hope that it was right LMAO. I remember thinking that I liked sufficient assumption questions more then NA since SOMETIMES I got it right when my method was just to pick something that sounds like the main point. Clearly my dreams of scoring in the 170's was not happening. Anyways, I ended up being gifted a Kaplan Logical Reasoning book. It's actually quite good TBH, I actually think its better than the powerscore one which everyone seems to go to. Well after reading it, I figured out the different types of questions but MOST importantly, I LEARNED what even was DEDUCTIVE REASONING. Like jesus, I had to stop thinking what was going on in my day to day life and learn how to focus only on the FACTS on the paper. Oh yea I think I almost figured out what a premise is. It's something that supports the conclusion ...... Well actually KNOWING and actually SEEING is completely different. I highly recommend for improvement in LR to literally map out the whole section on every question what is the premise and draw an arrow to the conclusion. It's super important to ingrain good habits, believe me it will save you a lot of time improving.

Okay, so now I finished the book. Lets see where am I at, okay -12 to -15 on an untimed section of LR hmmmm quite bad but that's improvement! I just needed to sharpen my skills. So here we go, I bought a set of Powerscore Bibles and started working through them. I read every single page and worked through all of them. I also read a princeton book and a not so good barrons or something along the way. I think I was beginning to grasp the concepts of the questions. However, I was STILL SUFFICIENTLY lacking. If you never had a formal education in reasoning a lot of the concepts you need is just not covered in depth in a lot of these books. However, if your diagnostic is high then it may be enough. All of these books are thicc and they just won't have enough space to add even more. I wish I had found 7sage sooner.

Anyways, a year or so has passed and I have now read all these books. Okay, so I'm probably PTing at about 145-150 at this point. Not great but from where I came from, its actually quite nice. I obviously didn't see it like that cus I wanted that 170. My mindset was 170 or die. I think I wrote the LSAT once during this time when it was offered on paper just to test the water. I mean my parents, friends, and family knew I was studying all the time and kind of just expected me to have something to show for it. I was nowhere near ready but it is at this point that those around you will start pressuring you and YOU WILL feel huge amounts of social anxiety and depression. So I went in there thinking I could just clutch it. In my mind I was like yea, maybe if I just needed some pressure to bring out my A game. I was most likely PTing around the 150s thinking I could just KOBEEE my way to the 165s and call it a day. Yea that didn't happen.

Well anyways, I obviously didn't give up and continued my journey. Finally here comes 7sage!~ The star of the show has arrived but oh crap man is that curriculum long AF. I think I forced myself and tried to speed through it. Big mistake. The curriculum is extremely long and daunting but for someone like me, it was what I needed but didn't realize. A lot of the times I didn't feel like studying but I just kept grinding at it. That's a good mindset to keep grinding but learning the LSAT takes a lot of time and you actually need to KNOW the concepts if you want to score high. You need to make sure your mind is right and actually UNDERSTAND rather than trying to beat it into your head like me. Anyways after the curriculum I think I was touching the 155 - 160s on a good day. Back to my bad habits of trying to write every single question and improving like that. THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO GO ! You are being tested on your reasoning and brute forcing reasoning will only take you so far. I think I was on my second year of studying for the LSAT and here was when I got a study buddy. She realized that even though I finished the core curriculum my UNDERSTANDING of it was sub-par. You not only need to know contrapositives and negations, but you NEEDED to do it FAST ! She made me redo the core curriculum, yes the whole thing ........ I dreaded it, I hated it, but it was what I needed. J.Y's teaching is golden, he literally gives you the most in depth step by step approach.

Okay so 2 years has passed and remember when I said that you'll feel social anxiety and depression. Yea YOU ARE REALLY going to feel it now. I no longer talk to my friends and family about what I'm doing. I can't even look at them in the eye, that's how bad it was. I think I lied about what I was doing in my room, but literally I was consuming every video ever posted by J.Y. like so many times it was ridiculous. I think I was scoring around the 160s now after going through the CC twice. Guess what I did, I thought I knew enough and continued grinding through PT after PT. Yea that's just a pit of depression when you keep seeing you are getting the same score over and over again. You literally have to figure out WHY you are getting the questions wrong. If you don't understand the reasoning ( and I know it can be hard when you have no one ) you are NOT going to get the next similar question right. IT IS SIMPLY NOT HOW IT WORKS. The LSAT is f' in hard and it will tear you apart time after time just in a subtler shade of meaning. So grab yourself a study buddy and go at it, you need someone to hash out WHY specifically your reasoning is wrong. If you like to do this yourself, type out why each and every answer choice is right / wrong and post it in the comments section. This will hold you accountable.

Ah so finally, stuck in the 160s and not sure what to do. You think you know but in reality you know nothing. Yes, I did the curriculum a third time. If 7sage had a tracker on how much time you spent watching their videos, I think I would be in the 99th percentile rank 1. You want to score in the 165s and beyond you not only have to KNOW you have to do it LIGHTNING FAST. It becomes almost like intuition. Contrapositives, negations, sufficient assumption, necessary assumptions, etc. you going to be REAL QUICK !

So here we go again, into the third year.... most likely most of you won't be able to fathom what I was feeling. Friends, family, relationships ..... yea no one knew that I was still trying. I think its actually advantageous to keep it this way if you are struggling. It keeps the anxiety off when no one bombards you with " ARE YOU STILL STUDYING?". Logical reasoning I was doing good now, I mean ... I think I wrote every single question like 3 times..... I think I have also written every single PT multiple times. But you know what I still can't get around RC. It's just so hard when you didn't spend time reading growing up. ( I only read finance books) At this stage I was drilling RC every single day since it kept me out of the high 160's and 170s. I think I wrote every single RC passage like 4 times and I still don't get them all right. Going -5 to -6 was a good day. I think I might have to just give up on my dream on scoring in the 170s and live with a 168.....

Oh yea I forgot to tell ya my GPA is atrocious so hopefully ONE law school will take a chance on me in Canada...... Hopefully for those of you struggling this has cheered you up! There is ALWAYS someone in a worst off place than you are and I believe I might just be that person.

I would like to give a special thanks to my study buddy @Vibrio, I know your home isn't in a good place right now and I wish you all the best. You were an amazing study buddy pushing me to the limits going through the CC multiple times even though I was angry.

Thank you to @jmarmaduke96 for offering to tutor me and changing my studying methodologies on the come-up when I had no one to talk to. He is an amazing tutor and would highly recommend anyone to get taught by him.

Thank you @Sami for always being a gem to the community. I would always go to her workshops to learn from her. She is an absolutely amazing person and I would highly recommend her!

Thank you @J.Y. Ping and the whole community here at 7sage you are absolutely amazing and making a change in the world.

AMA also if you are feeling unwell and just need someone to talk to please feel free to DM me as I probably have experienced everything you are feeling I am still not feeling great at the moment as I'm not sure where my life will take me but perhaps I know the answer to your questions without knowing mine . If you need help on an LR question send me a DM and I will try to do my best to explain it to you as I got really good at explaining questions (went near perfect on the exam) since I came from the worst possible. I think being one of the most stupidest has trained me at explaining things to other not so bright minds

Also for those of you wondering how I was able to afford this time, I was trading stocks and options in the morning before I began studying for the LSATs. I was luckily enough that I could do this. Good luck to you all you will make it if you want it bad enough !!

I take the exam on Sunday and don't plan on doing much before then. I do want to drill some misc. LG games though that have been weird or just hard (LG is my best section) just to keep my brain fresh and prepared. Anyone know any?

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone tried to solve the game using multiple game boards? It seemed do-able to try splitting game boards, but I keep going down a rabbit hole with too many options and especially, for the last question, seems like several answer choices are possible if I look at my boards.

Any suggestions welcome!!

Thank you,

Megha

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any tips for "except" question types? I feel like I always mess these up because I end up getting confused halfway through and almost forget what I am looking for. I am not fully through the CC yet but JY's current strategy for these seems like it was designed for when the test was taken by hand as opposed to digitally.

Hi does anyone know how to schedule or how to log on and take the writing component of the test? My official test day is tomorrow at 11 am and I kind of want to take the writing section today if possible. Thanks! #help

I was wondering what the main differences between most strongly supported questions and Weakening questions such as how to approach them?

Normal:

Strongly Supported:

Weakening:

Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis:

Strongly Supported:

Weakening:

Please let me know if this is wrong and how I can improve my understanding.

Thanks.

Hi everybody!

Taking the June LSAT. I have a rudimentary understanding of how FLEX works but am unsure of really happens on test day.

What is the proctor/ situation like? Does your screen lag when taking the exam? Any prep tricks/ tips you guys have before my big day? Any ways to calm your nerves? What time did you start/ finish?

Really would love any/all advice. Thanks to everyone in advance!

You got this!!!

Anyone have tips on how to do Blind Review using LawHub? 7sage interface seems to have a good framework for BR, but I feel like it's also important for me to keep practicing with the official interface, even if the right answer is there. Would I just write down on some paper what I was unsure of and make a new test to BR from there?

Also, general question: I took about 20 PTs and the June 2021 LSAT before I started using 7sage and BR. Is it even worth the time to try and BR those exams even though I won't know which questions to do?